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I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) |
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On Apr 26, 8:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) Check with the manufacturer and they will likely tell you that the trim is not really a structural material. Since you have some tools to work with wood, size what you need out of quality wood and have a woodworking shop mill a brickmold face as needed. Joe |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) I hung a storm door (with glass panels) from vinyl brickmold. I secured the brickmold using 4" exterior finish nails and a 1/4" bead of Liquid Nails. The storm door has a corner piano-style hinge and fastens in many spots. It's been six months and the door is operating just fine. It won't be long before I will have all the rotted wooden brickmold (18 years) replaced with vinyl. |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) I wouldn't trust it. |
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On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. If you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any problem, I do it frequently. Storm doors have a lot of screws holding the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. The major caveat is to drill pilot holes. Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to break - brittle, almost. That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm door to. You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC moldings. R |
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On Apr 27, 10:52*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote: I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. *If you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any problem, I do it frequently. *Storm doors have a lot of screws holding the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. *The major caveat is to drill pilot holes. Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to break - brittle, almost. *That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm door to. You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC moldings. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Azek is indeed what I am speaking of. In fact, I just stopped by my local Norandex-Reynolds franchise to order the storm door and that's what they carry. I'm not sure what brand HD carries, but the price N-R just gave me for an 18' length is going to be cheaper than what I would need to buy from HD based on the lengths that HD stocks. I'll just need to make sure that I have my tape measure and 18V circular saw with me so I can cut the 18 footer down to some managable lengths. ;-) |
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On Apr 27, 10:52*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote: I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new storm door. The Question: Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I hang a full view storm door from it? The Background: Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1") x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and won't be reinstalled. Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4" vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that. (I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.) The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. *If you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any problem, I do it frequently. *Storm doors have a lot of screws holding the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. *The major caveat is to drill pilot holes. Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to break - brittle, almost. *That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm door to. You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC moldings. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - :You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC moldings" I don't know if Azek is what I used around my window but that is exactly what I did around my window. (I used whatever HD carries.) I replaced a double casement that had been built into the house with a slider and the exterior had bevels and gaps that needed to be dealt with. I back cut some flat stock at an angle to produce a flat surface and then "glued and screwed" some PVC molding to the face to create a pretty good looking profile around the slider. I used exterior adhesive caulk as the "glue". |
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