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DerbyDad03 April 26th 10 02:40 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.

The Question:

Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?

The Background:

Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.

Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.

(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)


Joe April 26th 10 05:26 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Apr 26, 8:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.

The Question:

Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?

The Background:

Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.

Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.

(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)


Check with the manufacturer and they will likely tell you that the
trim is not really a structural material. Since you have some tools to
work with wood, size what you need out of quality wood and have a
woodworking shop mill a brickmold face as needed.

Joe

Phisherman[_2_] April 26th 10 08:07 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.

The Question:

Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?

The Background:

Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.

Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.

(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)


I hung a storm door (with glass panels) from vinyl brickmold. I
secured the brickmold using 4" exterior finish nails and a 1/4" bead
of Liquid Nails. The storm door has a corner piano-style hinge and
fastens in many spots. It's been six months and the door is operating
just fine. It won't be long before I will have all the rotted
wooden brickmold (18 years) replaced with vinyl.

[email protected] April 27th 10 03:47 AM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.

The Question:

Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?

The Background:

Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.

Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.

(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)

I wouldn't trust it.

RicodJour April 27th 10 03:52 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.

The Question:

Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?

The Background:

Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.

Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.

(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)




The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. If
you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any
problem, I do it frequently. Storm doors have a lot of screws holding
the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. The major caveat
is to drill pilot holes.

Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to
break - brittle, almost. That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm
door to.

You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC
moldings.

R

DerbyDad03 April 27th 10 04:36 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Apr 27, 10:52*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:





I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.


The Question:


Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?


The Background:


Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.


Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.


(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)


The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. *If
you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any
problem, I do it frequently. *Storm doors have a lot of screws holding
the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. *The major caveat
is to drill pilot holes.

Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to
break - brittle, almost. *That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm
door to.

You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC
moldings.

R- Hide quoted text -

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Azek is indeed what I am speaking of.

In fact, I just stopped by my local Norandex-Reynolds franchise to
order the storm door and that's what they carry.

I'm not sure what brand HD carries, but the price N-R just gave me for
an 18' length is going to be cheaper than what I would need to buy
from HD based on the lengths that HD stocks.

I'll just need to make sure that I have my tape measure and 18V
circular saw with me so I can cut the 18 footer down to some managable
lengths. ;-)


DerbyDad03 April 27th 10 04:43 PM

Will Vinyl Trim Support A Storm Door?
 
On Apr 27, 10:52*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 26, 9:40*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:





I recently replaced my entry door and now it's time to install a new
storm door.


The Question:


Does 5/4 x 4 vinyl trim have as much holding strength as wood? Can I
hang a full view storm door from it?


The Background:


Due to the gap between the jamb and the siding (3") I can't use
standard brick mold. *What was used previously was some 1" (a full 1")
x ~3" wood wrapped in aluminum. The wood and alumnum are beat up and
won't be reinstalled.


Per the manufacturer, I need to use material that is 1" thick to mount
the storm door to, so I was planning on ripping down some 5/4" x 4"
vinyl trim to fill the gap and then hang the storm door from that.


(I used vinyl trim around a window I installed, and it was quite easy
to work with, but I didn't have to hang any weight off of that trim.)


The major concern of mine is what exactly you mean by vinyl trim. *If
you're talking about something like Azek 5/4x, or similar, not any
problem, I do it frequently. *Storm doors have a lot of screws holding
the frame in place, and the stress is distributed. *The major caveat
is to drill pilot holes.

Some manufacturer's vinyl trim is a bit sketchy and is pretty easy to
break - brittle, almost. *That stuff I wouldn't want to attach a storm
door to.

You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC
moldings.

R- Hide quoted text -

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:You can also build up the trim profile from Azek and applied PVC
moldings"

I don't know if Azek is what I used around my window but that is
exactly what I did around my window. (I used whatever HD carries.)

I replaced a double casement that had been built into the house with a
slider and the exterior had bevels and gaps that needed to be dealt
with. I back cut some flat stock at an angle to produce a flat surface
and then "glued and screwed" some PVC molding to the face to create a
pretty good looking profile around the slider. I used exterior
adhesive caulk as the "glue".


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