Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb

On 4/10/2010 11:44 AM, notbob wrote:
Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb

Depends on the plastic. If it is something like acrylic or styrene
based, a drop of acetone, nail polish remover or PVC cement may work.
Be careful not to get these solvents on the lenses.

"notbob" wrote in message
...
Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb

JB Weld. NOT the 4 minute stuff but the long cure type. WW

notbob wrote:
Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb
Perhaps a hobby or crafts group would have answer(s) or maybe a big
crafts store

jeff_wisnia wrote:
notbob wrote:

Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb


http://www.thistothat.com/

Cute website that...

Jeff

+1

On 2010-04-10, wrote:

Go to any eyeglass store that does their own work onsite, and they can
sell you new frames. That means an old school mom & Pop optician, not
a big chain store.

Good idea and one I considered early. Problem is, finding said M&P
store locally or even online. I've already found one site that will
make me custom eyeglass frames around my existing lense. Only $450!!
....erk! 8P

nb

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:44:42 GMT, notbob wrote:

Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb

Go to any eyeglass store that does their own work onsite, and they can
sell you new frames. That means an old school mom & Pop optician, not
a big chain store. As long as the new frames are not bigger in any
dimension than the lenses, the lenses can be re-cut to fit.


There is no longer any such thing as a standard eyeglass frame shape, or
lens dimensions. They are 'fashion' accessories now, and change
constantly. The lenses are cad-cam milled out of a round blank, and once
that frame style is no longer in the system, you are SOL. BTDT. Yes, an
artisan could hand-grind the edges of the old lenses by eye, but
sneaking up on the correct shape for the new frames would take a lot of
manhours. I doubt any place would even be willing to try, since if they
FUBAR 'irreplaceable' lenses, there is nothing they can do to make the
customer whole. Don't forget, along with the shape, they have to get the
center axis oriented correctly, at least for prescription lenses.

The last pairs of eyeglasses I bought annoy the hell out me, because big
lenses are now out of fashion, so I have to retrain my head to look
through smaller lenses, and tune out the frames blocking my peripheral
vision.

Eyeglasses should be designed by engineers and ergonomic specialists,
not fashion designers. Form follows function, etc.

--
aem sends...

On 2010-04-10, aemeijers wrote:

The last pairs of eyeglasses I bought annoy the hell out me, because big
lenses are now out of fashion, so I have to retrain my head to look
through smaller lenses, and tune out the frames blocking my peripheral
vision.

It's all a marketing to get you to buy new frames every few years. I
also hate this current squinty-eyed frame fashion and will buy no new
ones till aviators come back around

Eyeglasses should be designed by engineers and ergonomic specialists,
not fashion designers. Form follows function, etc.

One option you might consider is industrial safety glasses. Most of
the new glasses I've bought in the last 20 yrs have been industrial
safety glasses. Surprisingly, prescription safety glasses frame
makers are more interested in your eyeball than the current trends,
although many suppliers have made great efforts to provide a good
compromise between eye coverage and fashion. In the end, it is safety
engineering that determines how they are designed. I doubt you'll
find many of those snow blindness slit frames.

Not only are there some surprisingly good designs out there, but as a
general rule, safety glasses frames are waaay cheaper than regular
frames, typically 50-70% cheaper, and also better made. I can't
remember ever paying more than $60 for frames. I had one pair that
was not only fairly fashionable, but were made of stainless steel.
Damn, I hated losing those babies. It pays to shop around for safety
frames as they are not the usual lines seen in Vogue and GQ and most
optometrists get them where they can, not whatever happens to be the
most likely to sell. I've rarely seen the same selection at any two
shops.

nb

notbob wrote:
On 2010-04-10, aemeijers wrote:

The last pairs of eyeglasses I bought annoy the hell out me, because big
lenses are now out of fashion, so I have to retrain my head to look
through smaller lenses, and tune out the frames blocking my peripheral
vision.

It's all a marketing to get you to buy new frames every few years. I
also hate this current squinty-eyed frame fashion and will buy no new
ones till aviators come back around

Eyeglasses should be designed by engineers and ergonomic specialists,
not fashion designers. Form follows function, etc.

One option you might consider is industrial safety glasses. Most of
the new glasses I've bought in the last 20 yrs have been industrial
safety glasses. Surprisingly, prescription safety glasses frame
makers are more interested in your eyeball than the current trends,
although many suppliers have made great efforts to provide a good
compromise between eye coverage and fashion. In the end, it is safety
engineering that determines how they are designed. I doubt you'll
find many of those snow blindness slit frames.

Not only are there some surprisingly good designs out there, but as a
general rule, safety glasses frames are waaay cheaper than regular
frames, typically 50-70% cheaper, and also better made. I can't
remember ever paying more than $60 for frames. I had one pair that
was not only fairly fashionable, but were made of stainless steel.
Damn, I hated losing those babies. It pays to shop around for safety
frames as they are not the usual lines seen in Vogue and GQ and most
optometrists get them where they can, not whatever happens to be the
most likely to sell. I've rarely seen the same selection at any two
shops.

nb

Interesting, thanks

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:08:04 -0400, LouB wrote:

notbob wrote:
Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb
Perhaps a hobby or crafts group would have answer(s) or maybe a big
crafts store
You NEED to know what kind of plastic. many can be chemically welded
- which is FAR superior to any epoxu repair. There is also something
called "last glue" i believe, that would likely do the job well -
something like superglue on steroids.

"WW" wrote in message
. ..

"notbob" wrote in message
...
Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb

JB Weld. NOT the 4 minute stuff but the long cure type. WW


I will vouch for the JB Weld .... my "can't read with out em" eyeglasses
frame broke near the hinge while on vacation at the kids house. The
son-in-law was also fixing the spout belonging to the kitchen sink due to an
issue with a pin hole leak that sprayed water every time you turned the
water on. He had the JB Weld out (the two tube syringe into one kind) so I
used a toothpick dipped in a dab of fresh and presto chango with some
finger-clamped pressure after about 5 minutes it held till I got back home
and then some. Just beware it is metallic colored and you might want to be
careful with appearance and application. Oh, and it worked on the faucet
leak too.

--
Fran ......SomeBuddy Else in North Central Ohio

On 2010-04-11, Somebuddy Else wrote:

careful with appearance and application. Oh, and it worked on the faucet
leak too.

I have no doubt. There are some pretty amazing epoxies out there.

My fave anecdote concerning epoxies is when I moved from Salem OR back
to CA on a snowy Winter night. Had to leave that night and car was
overloaded ala Grapes of Wrath. When I filled the gas tank it was
beyond overloaded and I scraped a pin hole in the gas tank moving down
the driveway, gas now squirting out in a small straight stream.

While the service station was unpacking a set of overload springs to
install, I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off
looking for a leak stop and my traveling buddy was holding his finger
on the leak like the lil' Dutch boy. Another service station across
the street offered a half used tube of Liquid Steel, a reinforced
non-mix epoxy. I put a dab on my finger tip and pushed it into the
pin hole. It held!! This on the bottom of a full tank of gas. A
year later it was still holding. Amazing.

nb

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

It's done all the time, and does not take a lot of manhours. It's
actually quite trivial. I've watched it being done. The guy traced an
old lens that had been damaged with a fine line sharpie and had the
new lens cut and fitted in about 15 minutes.

Do you remember where you saw it and happen to have a mailing address?

nb

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:10:55 -0400, aemeijers
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:44:42 GMT, notbob wrote:

Not exactly a home, but found in the home.

I have an pair of the original Revo sunglasses, the ones actually made
by layering dozens of color corrective laser grade coatings as
invented by an ex employee of a well known Silicon Valley laser
company. These are the real deal and are not replaceable, the
original company having been sold off to a hack Euro conglomerate
years ago. I really need to repair these glasses.

Anyway, I broke the cheapo frames while luckily doing no damage
to the lenses themselves. I need to repair them and am wondering if
anyone can recommend a good epoxy adhesive for this job. I was going
to use a Hardman Double-Bouble brand epoxy till I looked at their
application chart and saw that gluing plastics is not really their
forte.

Any advice?

nb
Go to any eyeglass store that does their own work onsite, and they can
sell you new frames. That means an old school mom & Pop optician, not
a big chain store. As long as the new frames are not bigger in any
dimension than the lenses, the lenses can be re-cut to fit.

There is no longer any such thing as a standard eyeglass frame shape, or
lens dimensions. They are 'fashion' accessories now, and change
constantly. The lenses are cad-cam milled out of a round blank, and once
that frame style is no longer in the system, you are SOL. BTDT. Yes, an
artisan could hand-grind the edges of the old lenses by eye, but
sneaking up on the correct shape for the new frames would take a lot of
manhours. I doubt any place would even be willing to try, since if they
FUBAR 'irreplaceable' lenses, there is nothing they can do to make the
customer whole. Don't forget, along with the shape, they have to get the
center axis oriented correctly, at least for prescription lenses.


It's done all the time, and does not take a lot of manhours. It's
actually quite trivial. I've watched it being done. The guy traced an
old lens that had been damaged with a fine line sharpie and had the
new lens cut and fitted in about 15 minutes.

Must be a regional thing. Around here they all told me to go away. And
on a new lens for an existing frame, that means the store owns the lens-
OP wants HIS lenses in a new frame. Were these prescription lenses you
saw cut? the center axis does matter for those.

--
aem sends...

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

Look under "Optician" in the phone book for a location near you.

You saw it done by an "Optician" at a location near me?

nb

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

How will you eat if there isn't someone ther to spoon feed you?

These sophomoric replies work for you?

nb

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:29:13 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

It's done all the time, and does not take a lot of manhours. It's
actually quite trivial. I've watched it being done. The guy traced an
old lens that had been damaged with a fine line sharpie and had the
new lens cut and fitted in about 15 minutes.

Do you remember where you saw it and happen to have a mailing address?

nb
Thats making a new lens for an old frame - putting old
(irreplaceable) lens in new frame is far less trivial.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:55:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:22:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:29:13 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

It's done all the time, and does not take a lot of manhours. It's
actually quite trivial. I've watched it being done. The guy traced an
old lens that had been damaged with a fine line sharpie and had the
new lens cut and fitted in about 15 minutes.

Do you remember where you saw it and happen to have a mailing address?

nb

Thats making a new lens for an old frame - putting old
(irreplaceable) lens in new frame is far less trivial.

No, it's not. All you need is to pick out a new frame that is slightly
smaller in all dimenisons. Cutting an old lens to a new, slightly
smaller, size is no more difficult than cutting a new lens to fit a
frame, which is how all eyeglasses are made.


Except for ONE problem. If you break a new lens you make a new one. If
you break an irreplaceable old lens, you are SCREWED.

On 2010-04-11, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:50:09 GMT, notbob wrote:

These sophomoric replies work for you?

Unfortunately for you, I can't draw a picture with crayons that you
would understand more easily. It's a limitation of usenet.

I'll take that as a yes.

nb

On 2010-04-15, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Do it the right way... Go to an optician and have them find a frame which
matches closely to your lenses. They can make them fit, especially if the
frame is a wire-based frame.

I've considered that, Wayne. Problem is, finding a similar frame.
Eyeglass frames are fashion driven and the current fashion is that
squinty narrow frame like old 80s biker glasses. My lenses are much
wider vertically. I recently went to a local mom/pop op shop and
asked about aviator style frames. They acted like they'd been gut
shot! How gauche of me.

nb

On 2010-04-15, wrote:

All he needs to do is measure his current frames, and pick out a frame
that looks similar and has slightly smaller dimensions for the lens
opening. Then any optician can recut his old lensesa and put them in
frames from the internet.

You keep talking but contributing zilch. Where are these prolific
websites and magical fingered grinder techs. I fess total ignorance.
You gonna step up and help or just keep criticizing?

nb

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:46:01 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-04-15, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Do it the right way... Go to an optician and have them find a frame which
matches closely to your lenses. They can make them fit, especially if the
frame is a wire-based frame.

I've considered that, Wayne. Problem is, finding a similar frame.
Eyeglass frames are fashion driven and the current fashion is that
squinty narrow frame like old 80s biker glasses. My lenses are much
wider vertically. I recently went to a local mom/pop op shop and
asked about aviator style frames. They acted like they'd been gut
shot! How gauche of me.

I had that problem this year. Granny glasses don't make very good bi-focals.
I really need full-size lenses to seen the entire screen(s) without moving my
head. Only one pair of frames in our vision plan was large enough to put a
decent set of lenses in and they sucked. The optician didn't have an other
decent ones to choose from either. I got the crappy pair and then had another
set of lenses made for my older frames. Hopefully styles will change by the
time I need another set of glasses.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:46:01 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-04-15, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
Do it the right way... Go to an optician and have them find a frame which
matches closely to your lenses. They can make them fit, especially if the
frame is a wire-based frame.
I've considered that, Wayne. Problem is, finding a similar frame.
Eyeglass frames are fashion driven and the current fashion is that
squinty narrow frame like old 80s biker glasses. My lenses are much
wider vertically. I recently went to a local mom/pop op shop and
asked about aviator style frames. They acted like they'd been gut
shot! How gauche of me.

I had that problem this year. Granny glasses don't make very good bi-focals.
I really need full-size lenses to seen the entire screen(s) without moving my
head. Only one pair of frames in our vision plan was large enough to put a
decent set of lenses in and they sucked. The optician didn't have an other
decent ones to choose from either. I got the crappy pair and then had another
set of lenses made for my older frames. Hopefully styles will change by the
time I need another set of glasses.

Same issues I ran into- only my old frames were shot (screw holes
wallowed out and stripped), so new lenses for those was not an option. I
have them wired together, fishing-fly style, as my emergency backups now.

I really need to get online, and get some minature bolts and nuts (like
I used to be able to buy at the local hobby shop before it closed), and
make some through-bolts for all the old worn-out glasses I have laying
around. Almost as nerdy as patching old birth-control plastic frames
with friction tape, I realize, but has been effective in the past.

--
aem sends....

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:54:36 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

On Thu 15 Apr 2010 10:46:01a, notbob told us...

On 2010-04-15, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Do it the right way... Go to an optician and have them find a frame
which matches closely to your lenses. They can make them fit,
especially if the frame is a wire-based frame.

I've considered that, Wayne. Problem is, finding a similar frame.
Eyeglass frames are fashion driven and the current fashion is that
squinty narrow frame like old 80s biker glasses. My lenses are much
wider vertically. I recently went to a local mom/pop op shop and
asked about aviator style frames. They acted like they'd been gut
shot! How gauche of me.

nb


More's the pity. I'd have thought there would be more variety.

As far as repairng the existing frame, I lean toward
chemical welding of the plastic than bonding with glue, but I could be
wrong.
I said it before and I'll say it again www.thelastglue.com
The stuff is FANTASTIC.. It'ff fix anything but the crack of dawn or a
broken heart.