I'm sure some will never believe this, but . . . . . .

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HARRISON, N.Y. (AP) - A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius
accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall
apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a
police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the
accident.

The March 9 crash in a suburban New York driveway came the day after a
driver in San Diego reported that the gas pedal got stuck on his 2008 Prius,
resulting in a wild 94 mph ride on a Southern California freeway.

The two accidents raised new questions about Toyota's accelerators. The
company had already recalled more than 8 million cars over gas pedals that
could become stuck or be held down by floor mats.

But in the California case, Toyota said its tests showed the car's gas
pedal, backup safety system and electronics were working fine.

And on Monday, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said, "The vehicle
accelerator in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision,
and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application."

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

Toyota spokesman Wade Hoyt said owner of Priuses can feel secure that "if
you step on the brake they'll stop, even if the accelerator is glued to the
floor."

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The New York driver, identified as Gloria Rosel, did not come to the door of
the house where she works Monday. Calls there were not returned.

Marraccini said the car's computers showed that the Prius' top speed down
the driveway was 35 mph; it slowed once when it hit a curb and it was going
27 mph when it hit the wall across the street from the driveway entrance.

The car's front end was wrecked but the driver was not seriously hurt.

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.

Some consumer groups and safety experts have said the problems could be
caused by faulty electronic throttles. Toyota has said it has found no
evidence of problems with its electronics.

___

Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

On Mar 23, 12:52*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
I'm sure some will never believe this, but *. . . . . .

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HARRISON, N.Y. (AP) - A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius
accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall
apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a
police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the
accident.

The March 9 crash in a suburban New York driveway came the day after a
driver in San Diego reported that the gas pedal got stuck on his 2008 Prius,
resulting in a wild 94 mph ride on a Southern California freeway.

The two accidents raised new questions about Toyota's accelerators. The
company had already recalled more than 8 million cars over gas pedals that
could become stuck or be held down by floor mats.

But in the California case, Toyota said its tests showed the car's gas
pedal, backup safety system and electronics were working fine.

And on Monday, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said, "The vehicle
accelerator in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision,
and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application."

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

Toyota spokesman Wade Hoyt said owner of Priuses can feel secure that "if
you step on the brake they'll stop, even if the accelerator is glued to the
floor."

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The New York driver, identified as Gloria Rosel, did not come to the door of
the house where she works Monday. Calls there were not returned.

Marraccini said the car's computers showed that the Prius' top speed down
the driveway was 35 mph; it slowed once when it hit a curb and it was going
27 mph when it hit the wall across the street from the driveway entrance.

The car's front end was wrecked but the driver was not seriously hurt.

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.

Some consumer groups and safety experts have said the problems could be
caused by faulty electronic throttles. Toyota has said it has found no
evidence of problems with its electronics.

___

Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:52:03 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


...
Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

However, i'll bet a lot of those reported accidents if the truth
was known are people who are trying to get on the gravy train or
trying to cover up their own failure.

The one certain thing is we the consumers will be the ones who end
up footing the bill.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I'm sure some will never believe this, but . . . . . .

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HARRISON, N.Y. (AP) - A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius
accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall
apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a
police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the
accident.

The March 9 crash in a suburban New York driveway came the day after a
driver in San Diego reported that the gas pedal got stuck on his 2008 Prius,
resulting in a wild 94 mph ride on a Southern California freeway.

The two accidents raised new questions about Toyota's accelerators. The
company had already recalled more than 8 million cars over gas pedals that
could become stuck or be held down by floor mats.

But in the California case, Toyota said its tests showed the car's gas
pedal, backup safety system and electronics were working fine.

And on Monday, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said, "The vehicle
accelerator in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision,
and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application."

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

Toyota spokesman Wade Hoyt said owner of Priuses can feel secure that "if
you step on the brake they'll stop, even if the accelerator is glued to the
floor."

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The New York driver, identified as Gloria Rosel, did not come to the door of
the house where she works Monday. Calls there were not returned.

Marraccini said the car's computers showed that the Prius' top speed down
the driveway was 35 mph; it slowed once when it hit a curb and it was going
27 mph when it hit the wall across the street from the driveway entrance.

The car's front end was wrecked but the driver was not seriously hurt.

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.

Some consumer groups and safety experts have said the problems could be
caused by faulty electronic throttles. Toyota has said it has found no
evidence of problems with its electronics.

___

Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.



Yup. I believe it.

--
Jean B., owner of 5-yr-old Prius that has had no problems

On Mar 23, 11:52*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
I'm sure some will never believe this, but *. . . . . .

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HARRISON, N.Y. (AP) - A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius
accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall
apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a
police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the
accident.

The March 9 crash in a suburban New York driveway came the day after a
driver in San Diego reported that the gas pedal got stuck on his 2008 Prius,
resulting in a wild 94 mph ride on a Southern California freeway.

The two accidents raised new questions about Toyota's accelerators. The
company had already recalled more than 8 million cars over gas pedals that
could become stuck or be held down by floor mats.

But in the California case, Toyota said its tests showed the car's gas
pedal, backup safety system and electronics were working fine.

And on Monday, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said, "The vehicle
accelerator in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision,
and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application."

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

Toyota spokesman Wade Hoyt said owner of Priuses can feel secure that "if
you step on the brake they'll stop, even if the accelerator is glued to the
floor."

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The New York driver, identified as Gloria Rosel, did not come to the door of
the house where she works Monday. Calls there were not returned.

Marraccini said the car's computers showed that the Prius' top speed down
the driveway was 35 mph; it slowed once when it hit a curb and it was going
27 mph when it hit the wall across the street from the driveway entrance.

The car's front end was wrecked but the driver was not seriously hurt.

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.

Some consumer groups and safety experts have said the problems could be
caused by faulty electronic throttles. Toyota has said it has found no
evidence of problems with its electronics.

___

Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Mar 23, 11:52Â*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
I'm sure some will never believe this, but Â*. . . . . .

http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowP...&CommonCount=0
HARRISON, N.Y. (AP) - A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius
accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall
apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a
police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the
accident.

The March 9 crash in a suburban New York driveway came the day after a
driver in San Diego reported that the gas pedal got stuck on his 2008 Prius,
resulting in a wild 94 mph ride on a Southern California freeway.

The two accidents raised new questions about Toyota's accelerators. The
company had already recalled more than 8 million cars over gas pedals that
could become stuck or be held down by floor mats.

But in the California case, Toyota said its tests showed the car's gas
pedal, backup safety system and electronics were working fine.

And on Monday, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said, "The vehicle
accelerator in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision,
and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application."

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

Marraccini said the 56-year-old driver "believes she depressed the brake,
but that just simply isn't the case here." She did not try to deceive
police, he said, and she faces no charges.

Toyota spokesman Wade Hoyt said owner of Priuses can feel secure that "if
you step on the brake they'll stop, even if the accelerator is glued to the
floor."

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The New York driver, identified as Gloria Rosel, did not come to the door of
the house where she works Monday. Calls there were not returned.

Marraccini said the car's computers showed that the Prius' top speed down
the driveway was 35 mph; it slowed once when it hit a curb and it was going
27 mph when it hit the wall across the street from the driveway entrance.

The car's front end was wrecked but the driver was not seriously hurt.

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.

Some consumer groups and safety experts have said the problems could be
caused by faulty electronic throttles. Toyota has said it has found no
evidence of problems with its electronics.

___

Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

The problem is that the Toyota black box is proprietary and so how do
we know that what they are reporting to the police is the truth. They
could say anything, how would the police know if it was the truth or
not??


They would print out the data from their reader, I am sure.

You guys are all paranoid.

"hr(bob) " wrote


The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer
and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the
car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.

The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to
investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."


The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed
zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully
open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position
after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.
Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this
report.

The problem is that the Toyota black box is proprietary and so how do
we know that what they are reporting to the police is the truth. They
could say anything, how would the police know if it was the truth or
not??

Maybe they have the boxes already rigged too. Maybe they add a box if none
existed already. Maybe the NHSTA that was present is part of the cover up
too. Maybe the police chief did not like the lady driving.

On Mar 23, 6:35*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote







The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer
and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the
car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.
The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to
investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed
zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully
open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position
after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.
Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this
report.

The problem is that the Toyota black box is proprietary and so how do
we know that what they are reporting to the police is the truth. *They
could say anything, how would the police know if it was the truth or
not??

Maybe they have the boxes already rigged too. *Maybe they add a box if none
existed already. *Maybe the NHSTA that was present is part of the cover up
too. *Maybe the police chief did not like the lady driving.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe they activated the time travel mode, took the car back before
the crash, inserted a doctored monitor then traveled back to the
present.

Harry K

On Mar 23, 11:38*pm, Harry K wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:35*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:





"hr(bob) " wrote

The data came from the car's on-board event data recorder and computer
and
was downloaded during an inspection Wednesday joined by Toyota and the
National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, which also concluded the
car
was not at fault. The event data recorder, or "black box," is designed to
record the state of the car at the moment of an impact.
The company also issued a statement saying it would continue to
investigate
"reported incidents of unintended acceleration."

The captain displayed a page from the computer readout that showed an
accelerator sensor measuring 99.9 percent while a brake sensor showed
zero.
One critical finding, he said, was that although the throttle was fully
open
at the time of impact, the gas pedal returned to its normal position
after
the crash, indicating it did not stick.
Associated Press writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this
report.

The problem is that the Toyota black box is proprietary and so how do
we know that what they are reporting to the police is the truth. *They
could say anything, how would the police know if it was the truth or
not??

Maybe they have the boxes already rigged too. *Maybe they add a box if none
existed already. *Maybe the NHSTA that was present is part of the cover up
too. *Maybe the police chief did not like the lady driving.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe they activated the time travel mode, took the car back before
the crash, inserted a doctored monitor then traveled back to the
present.

Harry K- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, really. You just have to evaluate the probabilities. And I'd
say the probability that Toyota is falsifying the data coming out of
the computer in the NY case is about .01% compared to 99.99%
probability the woman involved just stepped on the gas instead of the
brake. It would be one hell of a big gamble on the part of Toyota.
If they falsified data, this keeps happening, NHTSA engineers finally
figure it out, the damage to Toyota would be irreparable.

This isn't a case where it ran away at highway speed. It was in a
driveway when starting out, where this happens occasionally with ALL
manufacturer's cars. She may not even realize that is what she did.