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Removing sub-panel
I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has
50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. |
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I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. |
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ls02 wrote:
I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. If it's not going to be used, terminate it on both ends back where isn't going to be in any danger of getting into anything live and leave it. -- |
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On Jan 9, 9:23*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
ls02 wrote: I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. *Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. Does code allow just cutting wire on both ends and wrapping it with electric tape? |
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"ls02" wrote in message ... I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. If this line may have a possible future use, I would install it in a flush box with a blank cover, tape the ends and leave it. If you really want to totally abandon it, I would remove the other end of the cable from the breaker box, and cut the cable outside of the box, making it impossible to reconnect without splicing it. |
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ls02 wrote:
On Jan 9, 9:23 am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: ls02 wrote: I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. Does code allow just cutting wire on both ends and wrapping it with electric tape? Yes (actually, isn't a Code issue, specifically) -- |
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On Jan 9, 10:23*am, dpb wrote:
ls02 wrote: On Jan 9, 9:23 am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: ls02 wrote: I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. *Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. Does code allow just cutting wire on both ends and wrapping it with electric tape? Yes *(actually, isn't a Code issue, specifically) -- Actually I would reuse it but in differenmt sense. I would like to use it for ordinary 20 A wiring (lighting, receptacles) in the room that is now workshop. I would like it to connect in main panel to 20 A breaker and on other end in the now workshop to a box and twist it with 20 A wire. However can I put I believe AWG 8 wire which is really thick into ordinary plastic or metal box and twist it with AWG 12 wire? |
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On Jan 9, 10:23 am, dpb wrote: ls02 wrote: On Jan 9, 9:23 am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: ls02 wrote: I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. Does code allow just cutting wire on both ends and wrapping it with electric tape? Yes (actually, isn't a Code issue, specifically) -- Actually I would reuse it but in differenmt sense. I would like to use it for ordinary 20 A wiring (lighting, receptacles) in the room that is now workshop. I would like it to connect in main panel to 20 A breaker and on other end in the now workshop to a box and twist it with 20 A wire. However can I put I believe AWG 8 wire which is really thick into ordinary plastic or metal box and twist it with AWG 12 wire? I don't have the code reference, but I'm pretty sure that you are not allowed to mix different wire gauges on a branch circuit, even if the smallest is adequate for the overcurrent protection device. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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.... Actually I would reuse it but in differenmt sense. I would like to use it for ordinary 20 A wiring (lighting, receptacles) in the room that is now workshop. I would like it to connect in main panel to 20 A breaker and on other end in the now workshop to a box and twist it with 20 A wire. However can I put I believe AWG 8 wire which is really thick into ordinary plastic or metal box and twist it with AWG 12 wire? Surely; just use properly-sized wire nuts for the two conductors. It may be the terminal for the breaker isn't large enough to accommodate the larger wire directly; if so, use a pigtail. The panel fusing is sized to protect the minimum wiring size on the circuit and the minimum wiring size is predicated on the load; they're a circular argument if you will. That there is a section of larger wire that is over-sized for that minimum required is ok as long as nothing is connected that is under the minimum. (I think another poster already mentioned this possibility). -- |
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ls02 wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:23 am, dpb wrote: ls02 wrote: On Jan 9, 9:23 am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: ls02 wrote: I am moving my basement workshop to a new location. Currently it has 50 A sub-panel that I want to remove. How to do this, namely what to do with the wire that goes from main panel to the sub-panel? It is burried inside walls and goes through entire house and one story. You can just abandon it. Cut it off at the panel end so it cannot be hooked up again leaving exposed live wires. Does code allow just cutting wire on both ends and wrapping it with electric tape? Yes (actually, isn't a Code issue, specifically) -- Actually I would reuse it but in differenmt sense. I would like to use it for ordinary 20 A wiring (lighting, receptacles) in the room that is now workshop. I would like it to connect in main panel to 20 A breaker and on other end in the now workshop to a box and twist it with 20 A wire. However can I put I believe AWG 8 wire which is really thick into ordinary plastic or metal box and twist it with AWG 12 wire? Then why didn't you say that to begin with? Incredible, you expect people to read your tiny mind. |
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