I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

On Dec 26, 12:44*pm, Tomas wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

Google is your friend. Type in polybutylelene plumbing and follow the
prompts.

Joe

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:33 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

On Dec 26, 12:44*pm, Tomas wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

Google is your friend. Type in polybutylelene plumbing and follow the
prompts.

Joe

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=polybutylene

On Dec 26, 2:11*pm, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:33 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:
On Dec 26, 12:44*pm, Tomas wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

Google is your friend. Type in polybutylelene plumbing and follow the
prompts.

Joe

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=polybutylene

Before anyone else suggests GOOGLE, I have done that ("From what I've
read..."). I'm looking for CURRENT information. All I'm finding so far
is outdated information.

Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 2:11 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:33 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 26, 12:44 pm, wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

Google is your friend. Type in polybutylelene plumbing and follow the
prompts.

Joe

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=polybutylene

Before anyone else suggests GOOGLE, I have done that ("From what I've
read..."). I'm looking for CURRENT information. All I'm finding so far
is outdated information.
Hi,
If you live in hot climate in South, the risk is higher.
That is my understanding.

On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..


Jimmie

On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:
On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

I live in central FL. From my readings, quite a few FL homes (probably
greater than 50%) have PB. I contacted a local real estate agent and
she's never heard of it so it may not be as big a deal as I've read.
My insurance company did not mention anything although I'm told this
does not have to be disclosed when selling so if I didn't know, how
can I tell them. The valve is not plastic but copper and "pushed" into
the PB sleeve and then clamped with a copper ring. I'd like to remove
the clamp (Dremel?) and insert a completely new valve. These valves
are likely 17 years old. I'm not sure I can get the copper clamp from
Home Depot or Lowes. I may need to find a local plumbing supply store.

Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:37 pm, wrote:
On Dec 26, 1:44 pm, wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

I live in central FL. From my readings, quite a few FL homes (probably
greater than 50%) have PB. I contacted a local real estate agent and
she's never heard of it so it may not be as big a deal as I've read.
My insurance company did not mention anything although I'm told this
does not have to be disclosed when selling so if I didn't know, how
can I tell them. The valve is not plastic but copper and "pushed" into
the PB sleeve and then clamped with a copper ring. I'd like to remove
the clamp (Dremel?) and insert a completely new valve. These valves
are likely 17 years old. I'm not sure I can get the copper clamp from
Home Depot or Lowes. I may need to find a local plumbing supply store.
Hi,
My house is built in '94 in Calgary Alberta. Locally it is a non-issue.
My plumber told me once if PB material is exposed to hot temp. of 90
deg. C(122 deg. F) it'll become a concern. 5th wheel trailer I had had
PB plumbing. Never had any trouble while I had it for about 20 years.

Tony Hwang wrote in news:JuvZm.1484$wC3.1361
@newsfe07.iad:

Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:37 pm, wrote:
On Dec 26, 1:44 pm, wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases
not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time
period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors
that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all
the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

I live in central FL. From my readings, quite a few FL homes (probably
greater than 50%) have PB. I contacted a local real estate agent and
she's never heard of it so it may not be as big a deal as I've read.
My insurance company did not mention anything although I'm told this
does not have to be disclosed when selling so if I didn't know, how
can I tell them. The valve is not plastic but copper and "pushed" into
the PB sleeve and then clamped with a copper ring. I'd like to remove
the clamp (Dremel?) and insert a completely new valve. These valves
are likely 17 years old. I'm not sure I can get the copper clamp from
Home Depot or Lowes. I may need to find a local plumbing supply store.
Hi,
My house is built in '94 in Calgary Alberta. Locally it is a non-issue.
My plumber told me once if PB material is exposed to hot temp. of 90
deg. C(122 deg. F) it'll become a concern. 5th wheel trailer I had had
PB plumbing. Never had any trouble while I had it for about 20 years.

Too bad:
122F=50C
90C=194F


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Dec 26, 3:54*pm, Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:





On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

I live in central FL. From my readings, quite a few FL homes (probably
greater than 50%) have PB. I contacted a local real estate agent and
she's never heard of it so it may not be as big a deal as I've read.
My insurance company did not mention anything although I'm told this
does not have to be disclosed when selling so if I didn't know, how
can I tell them. The valve is not plastic but copper and "pushed" into
the PB sleeve and then clamped with a copper ring. I'd like to remove
the clamp (Dremel?) and insert a completely new valve. These valves
are likely 17 years old. I'm not sure I can get the copper clamp from
Home Depot or Lowes. I may need to find a local plumbing supply store.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No problem, just cut the pipe and reconnect to your favorite valve of
choice using Sharkbite adapters. This is really easy. You just push
the pipe into the Sharkbite. The only problem yu may have is if there
is not enough slack in the poly pipe. You will have to figure ou a way
to extend it. I did this by screwing a couple of brass nipples into
the valve and connecting the SB adapters to the nipples. Screw up, no
problem, the SBs disconnect as easily as they connect. I know I sound
like I have stock in the company but these things work really well
even if they are a little pricey.





Jimmie

On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:
On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

Jimmie, do you connect the "sharkbite" connector directly to the PB or
do you insert a copper tube into the PB and then connect to that?

On Dec 27, 9:09*am, Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:



On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

Jimmie, do you connect the "sharkbite" connector directly to the PB or
do you insert a copper tube into the PB and then connect to that?

I see that you can do either. I also found some BrassCraft PushConnect
valves. They appear to work on the same principle as the Sharkbite but
already have the valve integrated.

On Dec 27, 1:11*pm, Tomas wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:09*am, Tomas wrote:





On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:

On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

Jimmie, do you connect the "sharkbite" connector directly to the PB or
do you insert a copper tube into the PB and then connect to that?

I see that you can do either. I also found some BrassCraft PushConnect
valves. They appear to work on the same principle as the Sharkbite but
already have the valve integrated.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sharkbite has those too but big box stores may not carry them. I think
Watts makes a plastic version, never tried them.

Jimmie

replying to Tomas, David wrote:
Will the brasscraft push connect value with gray collar work on PB, Dave

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On Dec 27, 9:09*am, Tomas wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:37*pm, JIMMIE wrote:





On Dec 26, 1:44*pm, Tomas wrote:

I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

The poly plumbing isnt really a problem if it was built in the '90s.
Installation problems abounded though as it was easy to kink and
stress on Ts and elbows will cause them to leak eventually. Poly will
work with Sharkbite connectors and these will allow easy connections
to be made to Copper, CPVC and PEX. Sharkbite also has connectors that
will adapt it to threaded pipe. I have polybutylene plumbing and
recently remodeled a 22 year old bathroom. Although I replaced all the
poly while I had access to it inspection of the poly showed it to be
good aa new. Yes Im on city water with chlorine, lots of chlorine.

Poly does have a bad reputation even though it is still used in just
about every other country except the USA. This may be an issue if you
are trying to sell ..

Jimmie

Jimmie, do you connect the "sharkbite" connector directly to the PB or
do you insert a copper tube into the PB and then connect to that?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The PB just plugs into the sharkbite. Push and twist. My wife backed
into my workbench with her car which hit the wall where the
distribution "tree" was located. She cracked about 3 fittings. I
replace all the PB fitting with Sharkbites even the ones she didnt
damage. End of pipe should be cut square, no nicks, burrs, gashes or
dirt that would prevent a good seal. Sharbites were about $5 USD each
and I replaced 6 or seven fittings and a couple of pieces of pipe all
less than $50. From past experience this would have cost me $300 if I
had to call in a plumber. I did buy a tool for cutting plastic pipe
for about $10. This made for a nice square cut which I have been since
told is really not that imporant.

You will be amazed how easy they are to use. Make sure you get the
disconnect tool(very inexpensive) so you can take them apart. I
practice a couple of times making connections and taking them apart
before getting started.. That should take 10 minutes. to get the hang
of. I lost my disconnect tool so I made one out of a piece of aluminum
scrap. This was much easier than going back to the store for one.

Oh yes they are reusable after you have to take a connection apart.

Check out the Sharkbite website, they have a lot of good info but they
do not tell you it will work with PB.

I think mine came with some brass tubes that you push up insde the
pipe to make the pipe end more rigid.

Jimmie

Tomas wrote:
I have shutoff valves that are now heavily corroded and do not fully
shut-off. My home was built in '92. While researching how to remove
the "crimped" on valves, I found several older posts about
polybutylene (Quest) and how it's no longer used and in many cases not
up to code (for interior use).

I'm hesitant now to mess with these valves. It's seems the time period
has expired for the class action lawsuit. Is there any recent
information on this? From what I've read, it's not a matter of if
there will be a problem, but when.

My entire house had to be replumbed because of PB pipe. It was built in 1987.
You need to get a professional opinion. If yours is failing, it's just a matter
of time until you could have some serious water damage from ruptured pipes or
fittings.