excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

On Oct 5, 4:00*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. *probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. *can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and *converted *space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

Do what you want. Be aware, thought, that dishwashers save time,
water, and energy over hand washing and quickly pay for themselves.
I'd take the shelf money and put it toward a dishwasher.

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?


*Matching existing cabinets can be difficult and expensive. Think in terms
of resale value. I vote for a new dishwasher.

John Grabowski wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?


*Matching existing cabinets can be difficult and expensive. Think in
terms of resale value. I vote for a new dishwasher.
Or just use the dead one to store pots and pans, and either replace at
sale time, or knock a few hundred off the price so the new owner can
choose whatever they want. If you won't be using it, best to not put in
a new one- they don't take kindly to being used a few times and then
ignored. Seals dry out, things leak, etc.

--
aem sends...

Higgs Boson wrote:
excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia


I would probably find an economical cabinet - assemble yourself - put
some wheels on it and park it in the space. Sears has lots of kitchen
accessory cabinets and carts, available with lots of choice of features.
Using something like that leaves the space ready for dw if you sell
the home or decide to install one later. I rarely use my dw - only for
company.

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:


my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

Would "cash for appliances" apply to you? I hear it's coming. 50 or
100 dollars, I forget. Does it include dishwashers? Or only things
people need more.

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

Nah!

Actually a "dead" dishwasher can hold a LOT of stuff. At worse, it is a
handy drying rack when you wash the dishes by hand.

When you get around to selling you simply disclose the D/W doesn't work.
No big deal, the buyer will just figure in $300/400.

On Oct 5, 4:00*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. *probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. *can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and *converted *space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

I vote to for fixing or replacing the d/w.

What mfr is yours?

If oyu;re handy enough to build a set of shelves you can replace the
fill valve. I'd guess the problem is either fill valve or "timer".

Fill valve relatively cheap...timer, not so cheap.

Alternative, used machine on craigslist.

cheers
Bob

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On Oct 5, 4:00 pm, Higgs Boson wrote:

I vote to for fixing or replacing the d/w.

What mfr is yours?

If oyu;re handy enough to build a set of shelves you can replace the
fill valve. I'd guess the problem is either fill valve or "timer".

Fill valve relatively cheap...timer, not so cheap.

Alternative, used machine on craigslist.

cheers
Bob

I second Bob's suggestions.

If you fix the thing yourself or swap in a used replacement (very easy) and
still opt to hand wash you can still use the machine for storage but when
the gang show up and you have a lot of dishes to do you can return it to
use.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia



I ditched my dishwasher (that was working) because we never used it.
Two people do not generate that many dishes, at least we don't. We
would rather have the space. I lined the inside of the hole with
plywood stained to match our cabinets and put in "euro" drawer slides
with flat shelves attached. We didn't want doors but I am guessing I
could have ordered them from the cabinet manufacturer. (or just
bought/built something acceptable).
That worked for years until we renovated the whole kitchen. I still
don't have a dishwasher.

I have a dishwasher, and could live without it. You have to wash the dishes
before you put them in there, so, what's the point? And besides, SWMBO is a
Nazi when it comes to washing less than a full load, so by the time we wash
dishes, all my favorite coffee cups are in there, as well as all the forks.
What's that? Buy more? Why couldn't we just wash the damn dishes more
often?

BUT, back to the point. I would not miss my dishwasher. In fact, I'm
banned from operating it anyway. I could use the shelves in our cramped
kitchen until our remodel. Yeah, like that's going to happen.

Ditch it and don't look back.

What I'd do, anyway.

BTW, ours wasn't working, and all it took was taking the door apart and
running a wire through the channel where the soap had plugged up. Check
that little float at the bottom, too, as that gets cockeyed or clogged.
After that, you'll figure it out or start making shelves.

Good luck.

Steve

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia



I ditched my dishwasher (that was working) because we never used it.
Two people do not generate that many dishes, at least we don't. We
would rather have the space. I lined the inside of the hole with
plywood stained to match our cabinets and put in "euro" drawer slides
with flat shelves attached. We didn't want doors but I am guessing I
could have ordered them from the cabinet manufacturer. (or just
bought/built something acceptable).
That worked for years until we renovated the whole kitchen. I still
don't have a dishwasher.

I have a dishwasher, and could live without it. You have to wash the
dishes before you put them in there, so, what's the point? And
besides, SWMBO is a Nazi when it comes to washing less than a full
load, so by the time we wash dishes, all my favorite coffee cups are
in there, as well as all the forks. What's that? Buy more? Why
couldn't we just wash the damn dishes more often?

BUT, back to the point. I would not miss my dishwasher. In fact, I'm
banned from operating it anyway. I could use the shelves in our
cramped kitchen until our remodel. Yeah, like that's going to happen.

Ditch it and don't look back.

What I'd do, anyway.

BTW, ours wasn't working, and all it took was taking the door apart
and running a wire through the channel where the soap had plugged up.
Check that little float at the bottom, too, as that gets cockeyed or
clogged. After that, you'll figure it out or start making shelves.

Good luck.

Steve





May I suggest a rollout cabinet,and a nice worktop?
It could give you some extra workspace along with more storage.
Think of it as a storable kitchen island.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On Oct 6, 8:30*am, "SteveB" wrote:
I have a dishwasher, and could live without it. *You have to wash the dishes
before you put them in there, so, what's the point? *And besides, SWMBO is a
Nazi when it comes to washing less than a full load, so by the time we wash
dishes, all my favorite coffee cups are in there, as well as all the forks.
What's that? *Buy more? *Why couldn't we just wash the damn dishes more
often?

Many dishwashers have integral disposals, so that pre-rinsing isn't
needed so long as you're not putting in huge heaps of food (which
you'd also remove before hand washing anyway).

I'm with you on running the dishwasher when you want rather than
trying to squeeze every last cubic inch of space out of it. The
savings in being that miserly pale in comparison to the cost of having
an unnecessary amount of items being held hostage.

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

I have a dishwasher, and could live without it. You have to wash the
dishes before you put them in there, so, what's the point?

We have a Beagle so our dishes are automatically pre-washed.

On Oct 6, 11:29*am, "tom" wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. *probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.
I have a dishwasher, and could live without it. *You have to wash the
dishes before you put them in there, so, what's the point?

We have a Beagle so our dishes are automatically pre-washed.

what do you do for silverware?

s l g i
g f i!!
YW /HAGD

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be
revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not
economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with
the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and converted space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia



Doesn't make sense at all. Save up some $ to buy, they are not
expensive and a big convenience. Personally, I might pass up a house
for sale that did not have one, certainly wonder why.

On Oct 5, 4:00*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. *probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. *can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and *converted *space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

Really appreciate all the thoughtful input on all three sides of the
question:

1. to attempt repair (via handyman)

2. to buy new d/w

3. to have d/w removed and utilize the space otherwise.

Right now I am leaning toward #3. Considering I don't know a handyman
competent to diagnose
much less repair 13-year-old d/w (that, I have been told, might need
plumbing due to
changes in local code). I certainly can't afford -- have checked
this out - professional
services. Small household doesn't really need d/w.

I am sensitive to added water use, washing by hand; will just have to
be careful.

I love the practical ideas for utilizing the space, from slide-in
shelves to roll-in cart.

Considering that I have to do something about grungy nicks & chips on
counter-top,
think that's where I'll put my (few!) pennies.

Thanks a lot - you guys are great!

Hypatia

Whoever buys this place if/when I sell, would want a newer model.

On Oct 8, 2:46*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Oct 5, 4:00*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:



excuse l/c; typing one-handed; broken wrist

my dishwasher "died" a few months ago. *probably could be revived;
problem is that water won't enter.

from liitle research i have done, 13-year-old d/w not economical to
repair. *can't afford good new one and
don't wany to buy c**p.

2-person household can do nicely w/o d/w.

friend said she removed d/w and *converted *space to drawers

i could use shelves; drawers seem very expensive, what with the
carpentry.

what does group think?

tia

Really appreciate all the thoughtful input on all three sides of the
question:

1. to attempt repair (via handyman)

2. to buy new d/w

3. to have d/w removed and utilize the space otherwise.

Right now I am leaning toward #3. *Considering I don't know a handyman
competent to diagnose
much less repair 13-year-old d/w *(that, I have been told, might need
plumbing due to
changes in local code). * I certainly can't afford -- have checked
this out - professional
services. *Small household doesn't really need d/w.

I am sensitive to added water use, washing by hand; will just have to
be careful.

I love the practical ideas for utilizing the space, from slide-in
shelves to roll-in cart.

Considering that I have to do something about grungy nicks & chips on
counter-top,
think that's where I'll put my (few!) pennies.

Thanks a lot - you guys are great!

Hypatia

Whoever buys this place if/when I sell, *would want a newer model.

You missed an option...used d/w for dirt cheap (like free) on
craigslist. R&R's a d/w isn't much harder than doing a garbage
disposal.

Even if you're not handy R&R is still pretty easy and way esaier than
repair.

Do the craigslist thing...I just bought a stacked washer / dryer combo
(delivered) for $250....even if I only get a few years out of it,
it'll be WAY cheaper per load than a new one.

My neighbor & I just replaced another neighbor's d/w & we did a "free
stuff" / "curb alert" on CL...the unit still worked.

cheers
Bob