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My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. Is this right? If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! (lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. |
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On Sep 18, 9:21*pm, Tony wrote:
Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. *Is this right? *If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. *Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. *Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. *Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. *The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! *(lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. *My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. *The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. Harry K |
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harry k wrote:
On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. Is this right? If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! (lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. It's working quite *well*. In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry? |
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On Sep 19, 9:11*pm, Tony wrote:
harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. *Is this right? *If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. *Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. *Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. *Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. *The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! *(lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. *My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. *The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. *My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. *I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. *It's working quite *well*. *In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Harry K |
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harry k wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:11 pm, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. Is this right? If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! (lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. It's working quite *well*. In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Half a horse and 26 gpm, must have a good well that isn't very deep, or the water table is high, or both. I get 20 gpm tops with a 1 horse pump. It's down about 700 - 800 foot but the real difference is when the the water table goes down and output goes as low as 10gpm (that I have witnessed). Either way it seems my pumping out thousands of gallons of water has very little effect on the water table and/or water output. I suppose I have a lot of reserve in the rock even when the level is low. |
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On Sep 20, 9:01*am, Tony wrote:
harry k wrote: On Sep 19, 9:11 pm, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. *Is this right? *If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. *Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. *Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. *Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. *The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! *(lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. *My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. *The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. *My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common.. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. *I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. *It's working quite *well*. *In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . *I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Half a horse and 26 gpm, must have a good well that isn't very deep, or the water table is high, or both. *I get 20 gpm tops with a 1 horse pump. *It's down about 700 - 800 foot but the real difference is when the the water table goes down and output goes as low as 10gpm (that I have witnessed). *Either way it seems my pumping out thousands of gallons of water has very little effect on the water table and/or water output. *I suppose I have a lot of reserve in the rock even when the level is low.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The 26 gpm was teh 'pump down' test after the well was drilled. My 1/2 horse pump doesnt' even come close to that. Well is on a fantatstic aquifer and only 65 ft deep with static level of 10 ft. Neighbor 1/2 mile up the draw from me drilled new well and his came in with static 6" above the well casing. He said he had to let it run open for a week before he could cap it. I don't know wht that did to my well - for sure I have never lacked for water. |
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harry k wrote:
On Sep 20, 9:01 am, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 19, 9:11 pm, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. Is this right? If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! (lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. It's working quite *well*. In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Half a horse and 26 gpm, must have a good well that isn't very deep, or the water table is high, or both. I get 20 gpm tops with a 1 horse pump. It's down about 700 - 800 foot but the real difference is when the the water table goes down and output goes as low as 10gpm (that I have witnessed). Either way it seems my pumping out thousands of gallons of water has very little effect on the water table and/or water output. I suppose I have a lot of reserve in the rock even when the level is low.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The 26 gpm was teh 'pump down' test after the well was drilled. My 1/2 horse pump doesnt' even come close to that. Well is on a fantatstic aquifer and only 65 ft deep with static level of 10 ft. Neighbor 1/2 mile up the draw from me drilled new well and his came in with static 6" above the well casing. He said he had to let it run open for a week before he could cap it. I don't know wht that did to my well - for sure I have never lacked for water. You wouldn't believe what I did that night........ I was running the hose and at one point was waiting for a 55 gallon drum to fill. I got a phone call and forgot about the running water. The pump ran for at least 10 hours straight, I'm being conservative. Over 6000 gallons pumped overnight. I don't know what it started at, but after running all that time it was still putting out 10 GPM out of my hose. My electric meter had just been read and a new reading figured my little mistake will cause a jump of about $88 on the next bill. The water got a bit dirty but luckily I recently installed a sediment filter, excluding the outside spigots. |
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On Sep 30, 11:42*am, Tony wrote:
harry k wrote: On Sep 20, 9:01 am, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 19, 9:11 pm, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. *Is this right? *If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. *Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. *Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. *Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. *The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! *(lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well.. *My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. *The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. *My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter. *I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. *It's working quite *well*. *In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . *I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Half a horse and 26 gpm, must have a good well that isn't very deep, or the water table is high, or both. *I get 20 gpm tops with a 1 horse pump. *It's down about 700 - 800 foot but the real difference is when the the water table goes down and output goes as low as 10gpm (that I have witnessed). *Either way it seems my pumping out thousands of gallons of water has very little effect on the water table and/or water output. *I suppose I have a lot of reserve in the rock even when the level is low.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The 26 gpm was teh 'pump down' test after the well was drilled. *My 1/2 horse pump doesnt' even come close to that. *Well is on a fantatstic aquifer and only 65 ft deep with static level of 10 ft. Neighbor 1/2 mile up the draw from me drilled new well and his came in with static 6" above the well casing. *He said he had to let it run open for a week before he could cap it. *I don't know wht that did to my well - for sure I have never lacked for water. You wouldn't believe what I did that night........ I was running the hose and at one point was waiting for a 55 gallon drum to fill. *I got a phone call and forgot about the running water. *The pump ran for at least 10 hours straight, I'm being conservative. *Over 6000 gallons pumped overnight. *I don't know what it started at, but after running all that time it was still putting out 10 GPM out of my hose. *My electric meter had just been read and a new reading figured my little mistake will cause a jump of about $88 on the next bill. *The water got a bit dirty but luckily I recently installed a sediment filter, excluding the outside spigots. Say what? 6000 gallons pumped = $88 electric bill? That doesn't sound right. What are your electric rates? Here in NJ we have some of the highest in the country, 18c/kwh and lots of people have irrigation wells installed to avoid paying for municipal water for their sprinker systems. Our water isn't cheap either, $7 per 1000 gallons is the highest rate. Even at that rate, I could buy the 6000 gallons of water for $42. I'd expect the electric bill for 6000 gallons of water pumping to be more in the $5 range or so for a typical well system. |
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On Oct 1, 6:36*am, wrote:
On Sep 30, 11:42*am, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 20, 9:01 am, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 19, 9:11 pm, Tony wrote: harry k wrote: On Sep 18, 9:21 pm, Tony wrote: Tony wrote: My bladder type water tank is rated 20 gallons. With no water I have 26.5 lbs of air pressure in tank. The pump cuts in at about 28lbs. and out at about 51lbs. With the tank full I only get 6.75 gallons of water before the pump runs again. *Is this right? *If not, what's wrong? Thanks Thanks everyone, I'll check into some larger tanks. *Large is no problem, I've pumped an estimated 5000 gallons out of it in about 6 hours. *Note: I extended the 1" main to a 1" frost proof spigot so running the hose full blast keeps the pump running full time instead of turning on and off. *Only problem with that was getting brown water with small gravel until it sits for some time. *The one time the gravel was enough to block the spigot decreasing the flow, and also making it impossible to turn off! *(lucky I put it's own cutoff valve inside) And as far as pumping so much water and how it will effect my well. *My ex FIL worked for a municipal water company for 30 years and now and then they would basically try to run a well dry. *The reasoning is because in all the tiny little cracks and crevices in the sides of the well is sediment, and running the well so low helps wash out the sediment and actually improves the wells capacity after some time. Ah and t'were possible. *My well is 26gpm flow, can't be pumped dry and is still pumping fine sediment after near 20 years. I'm going on what the water company does, I don't know if it is common. I got tired of the sediment in mine and finally installed a filter.. *I forget how many micron but I'm using the filter that is basically a big spool of string. *It's working quite *well*. *In a drought my output goes from 20gpm down to as low as 10gpm. By the way, the water company pumps are 5 or more horsepower, one of them just may be able to run one of our wells dry?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I realized that after posting that there are a lot of pumps out there that will exceed my piddling 1/2 hp . *I also need to be down in the basement flushing out my pressure tank and water heater, both must have a bunch in them. Half a horse and 26 gpm, must have a good well that isn't very deep, or the water table is high, or both. *I get 20 gpm tops with a 1 horse pump. *It's down about 700 - 800 foot but the real difference is when the the water table goes down and output goes as low as 10gpm (that I have witnessed). *Either way it seems my pumping out thousands of gallons of water has very little effect on the water table and/or water output. *I suppose I have a lot of reserve in the rock even when the level is low.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The 26 gpm was teh 'pump down' test after the well was drilled. *My 1/2 horse pump doesnt' even come close to that. *Well is on a fantatstic aquifer and only 65 ft deep with static level of 10 ft. Neighbor 1/2 mile up the draw from me drilled new well and his came in with static 6" above the well casing. *He said he had to let it run open for a week before he could cap it. *I don't know wht that did to my well - for sure I have never lacked for water. You wouldn't believe what I did that night........ I was running the hose and at one point was waiting for a 55 gallon drum to fill. *I got a phone call and forgot about the running water. *The pump ran for at least 10 hours straight, I'm being conservative. *Over 6000 gallons pumped overnight. *I don't know what it started at, but after running all that time it was still putting out 10 GPM out of my hose. *My electric meter had just been read and a new reading figured my little mistake will cause a jump of about $88 on the next bill. *The water got a bit dirty but luckily I recently installed a sediment filter, excluding the outside spigots. Say what? * 6000 gallons pumped = $88 electric bill? * *That doesn't sound right. *What are your electric rates? * Here in NJ we have some of the highest in the country, 18c/kwh and lots of people have irrigation wells installed to avoid paying for municipal water for their sprinker systems. * * Our water isn't cheap either, $7 per 1000 gallons is the highest rate. * Even at that rate, I could buy the 6000 gallons of water for $42. I'd expect the electric bill for 6000 gallons of water pumping to be more in the $5 range or so for a typical well system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. Harry K |
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