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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

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On Jul 2, 12:24*am, daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water..

We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


Dan-

I you trying to diagnose this from afar? Have you visited the unit
to see the problem first hand?

Did she used to get hot water & now it no longer works?

Is she turning on the cold? Is it a single handle faucet & the supply
line are reversed?

Seems pretty hard to get flow through the faucet via the "hot" valve &
never get hot water.


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On Jul 2, 2:24*am, daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water..

We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


Is it a 2 pipe HW system with return for a circulator pump. I have one
and cold will only come out if pipes are corodded shut and water is
comming through the return. If you have 2 pipe HW do you have a pump.
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On Jul 2, 8:12�am, ransley wrote:
On Jul 2, 2:24�am, daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.


We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.


Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!


--
daniel hudson


Is it a 2 pipe HW system with return for a circulator pump. I have one
and cold will only come out if pipes are corodded shut and water is
comming through the return. If you have 2 pipe HW do you have a pump.- Hide quoted text -

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what are the water lines made of? any chance they are galvanized?

the landlord and tenant live in the same building......
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On Jul 2, 2:24*am, daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water..

We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


Are all valves in basement open, it could be back feeding through the
return, I had that happen after doing plumbing on 2 pipe HW we forgot
to open all basement supply valves. HW corrodes pipes shut 100x faster
than cold water, the hotter the water the faster they corrode shut.


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I think that "an old home (1902)" equals corrosion -- in the pipes and in
the valves.

Maybe one of the pipes is so corroded that it is virtually completely
clogged. Same for a valve.

Or, maybe there is a valve turned off somewhere that is hard to locate.

Seems like you should be able to turn on the hot water at one or two sources
near the problem sinks (such as a nearby tub) and then trace where the pipes
are hot by feeling them. My guess is that you'll find a point where a hot
water pipe branches off and should be hot but isn't. The corrosion clog or
corroded valve is probably somewhere nearby.

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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories. We currently have a
tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but our 2nd floor
bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it,
since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


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On Jul 2, 2:24*am, daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water..

We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


How long have you had the house? Have you had a chance to inspect the
little nooks and crannies? I ask because, I liv in an old house, and
after being there a while, we realized it had 2 separate hot water
heaters. A big gas one for the main part of the house and a small
electric one the runs a couple of bathrooms. I might not have noticed
so soon, (it was well hidden) but the gas was off one morning, and
there was still ample hot water in that part of the house.
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daniel hudson wrote:
Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I
take a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live
with it, since our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor
bathroom sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot
water.

We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!


Turn OFF the hot water at the water heater.

Turn ON the hot water tap at the problem sink.

What happens?


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daniel hudson hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com wrote:

Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!

--
daniel hudson


The newly remodeled place the g.f. and I bought had no hot water in one
of the bathroom sinks. Turned out to be reversed supply lines under the
sink. An easy diagnosis and fix. Has the faucet been replaced recently,
by you or a previous tenant (with or without your knowledge?)

Someone speculated clogged pipes, but if that were the case you'd be
getting a significantly reduced flow rate.

The 2nd floor bathroom delay is a different issue, lag time in the
absence of a recirculating pump.

I once worked graveyard at a hotel, and every morning the first person
awake in one wing would call and complain that there was no hot water.
I'd say let it run. They'd say they let it run already for ten minutes.
I'd say then give it twenty. The manager was too cheap to replace the
recirculator to that wing.
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If the faucet is a single handle with ball valve, check that the shaft
attached to the ball has not become a little loose, such that when the
handle is turned left, the ball remains stationary.

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hudson[dot]daniel4[at]gmail[dot]com wrote:

Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.

We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.

Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!



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On Jul 2, 10:57*am, Smitty Two wrote:
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Hey there.
So we have an old home (1902) that is 3 stories.
We currently have a tenant in our ground floor apartment. She just
informed me that she is unable to get the hot water to come out of the
bathroom sink tap.
She could let it run and run and it will not get hot at the sink tap.
Her kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our kitchen sink tap works fine.
Our 3rd floor bathroom sink gets hot pretty quickly but
our 2nd floor bathroom sink tap has the same problem that out tenant
does...
Our 2nd floor bathroom sink hot water has NEVER gotten hot (unless I take
a shower in there beforehand) and we've just learned to live with it, since
our primary bathroom is on the 3rd floor...
Anyway, this is a new problem ( we think) for our ground floor bathroom
sink as our previous two tenants never mentioned it.


We have a tank (blech) water heater 80 gal on the ground level of the
house, so her bathroom is actually the closest to the source of hot water.


We can't figure this out.


Any ideas oh plumbing gifted folks out there? Thanks!


--
daniel hudson


The newly remodeled place the g.f. and I bought had no hot water in one
of the bathroom sinks. Turned out to be reversed supply lines under the
sink. An easy diagnosis and fix. Has the faucet been replaced recently,
by you or a previous tenant (with or without your knowledge?)

Someone speculated clogged pipes, but if that were the case you'd be
getting a significantly reduced flow rate.

The 2nd floor bathroom delay is a different issue, lag time in the
absence of a recirculating pump.

I once worked graveyard at a hotel, and every morning the first person
awake in one wing would call and complain that there was no hot water.
I'd say let it run. They'd say they let it run already for ten minutes.
I'd say then give it twenty. The manager was too cheap to replace the
recirculator to that wing.- Hide quoted text -

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You dont get reduced flow with 2 pipe HW if the HW feed is blocked by
corrosion, it flows through the return, it did for my system.
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