I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a newsgroup for
assistance on analysing the minidump report data to figure out what's causing
this. Any suggestions?

"Bob F" wrote:

I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a newsgroup for
assistance on analysing the minidump report data to figure out what's causing
this. Any suggestions?


Cut a stick to put in them to hold them up. Or maybe move out of
the mini-dump.

Jim

Assumimng that you mean Windows (as in computer issues), I would suggest
joining the free news://news.annexcafe.com newsgroup service, and then go to
the newsgroup there called -- annexcafe.general.user2user -- which is all
about computer and software realted questions and answers.

Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:45:20 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:

I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a newsgroup for
assistance on analysing the minidump report data to figure out what's causing
this. Any suggestions?


See:

"How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for
debugging"

"This step-by-step article describes how to examine a small memory
dump file. You can use this file to determine why your computer has
stopped responding."

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263

Jim Elbrecht wrote:

"Bob F" wrote:

I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a newsgroup
for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to figure out what's
causing this. Any suggestions?


Cut a stick to put in them to hold them up. Or maybe move out of
the mini-dump.

Jim

Knew MicroCrap always stunk, there's my proof
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:33:13 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

Just one of the groups (?) applies to *.mac.apps

Big Lie? MS owns part of Apple. They have vested interest.

Smitty Two wrote:

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the microsoft
news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it takes that many
to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use if
even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the Mac's
software.

"Bob F" wrote in
:

I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?



Hope you're not running pre-Xp. If you are, consider yourself lucky they
are infrequent,

HeyBub wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the microsoft
news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it takes that
many to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use if
even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the
Mac's software.

Hey Bub, the main reason more aren't using Linux. They're not smart enough.
Anyone can be sheep (93%). I prefer to run with Thoroughbreds!

--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

evodawg wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.
Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.
As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the microsoft
news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it takes that
many to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use if
even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the
Mac's software.

Hey Bub, the main reason more aren't using Linux. They're not smart enough.
Anyone can be sheep (93%). I prefer to run with Thoroughbreds!


Heck, give PC-BSD a try, it plays nice with Flash now.
I like it, it's mondo cool and bullet resistant.

http://www.pcbsd.org/

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:

evodawg wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.
Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.
As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the
microsoft news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it
takes that many to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use
if even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the
Mac's software.

Hey Bub, the main reason more aren't using Linux. They're not smart
enough. Anyone can be sheep (93%). I prefer to run with Thoroughbreds!


Heck, give PC-BSD a try, it plays nice with Flash now.
I like it, it's mondo cool and bullet resistant.

http://www.pcbsd.org/

TDD
Do they have a Live CD? I'm not finding one.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

HeyBub wrote:
Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Thanks for the help. I found my answer there.

evodawg wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:

evodawg wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.
Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.
As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the
microsoft news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it
takes that many to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use
if even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the
Mac's software.
Hey Bub, the main reason more aren't using Linux. They're not smart
enough. Anyone can be sheep (93%). I prefer to run with Thoroughbreds!

Heck, give PC-BSD a try, it plays nice with Flash now.
I like it, it's mondo cool and bullet resistant.

http://www.pcbsd.org/

TDD
Do they have a Live CD? I'm not finding one.

Not that I know of but as for live CD's, my
favorite is Puppy Linux. I've run it on just
about every computer I have.

TDD

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Still, the Mac is more popular than various versions of Linux which, at
less than 1% of the market,

Linux usage is way above 1%, not under. Since there is no registration,
and typically no sale involved, the numbers are very hard to track.

For instance, I bought a new Dell last week. It came with Vista Home
Premium. I asked Dell if I could get it with Ubuntu, but they would not
sell that particular model with Ubuntu.

This weekend I'll be wiping Vista and installing Linux. But Microsoft got
paid, and Microsoft will forever count my computer as a Vista computer.

That often cited 1% market share figure is 100% bogus.

no one will use if even if it was given to them.

People are lazy, or perhaps just busy. Most are willing to use whatever
comes on the computer. I've used Microsoft for years, and I've also used
Linux for years. It is not a close comparison, Linux is better.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

Tony Sivori wrote:
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Still, the Mac is more popular than various versions of Linux which,
at less than 1% of the market,

Linux usage is way above 1%, not under. Since there is no
registration, and typically no sale involved, the numbers are very
hard to track.

For instance, I bought a new Dell last week. It came with Vista Home
Premium. I asked Dell if I could get it with Ubuntu, but they would
not sell that particular model with Ubuntu.

This weekend I'll be wiping Vista and installing Linux. But Microsoft
got paid, and Microsoft will forever count my computer as a Vista
computer.

That often cited 1% market share figure is 100% bogus.


The percentage of desktop machine running Linux may not be precise, but it
is accurate.

As of April 2nd, Linux market share was reported to be 0.90% by the Market
Share report of Net Applications.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

"Estimates for the desktop market share of Linux range from less than one
percent to almost two percent..."

(with references)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#M...are_and_uptake

As to your claim that your new machine will always count as a Vista machine,
that's not how Net Applications tabulates current usage. While Microsoft is
grateful for your purchase, Net Applications monitors net traffic and counts
which OS is the current traffic generator.

If you like Linux, go for it. For me, having to choose between Linux and
having a girlfriend is a no-brainer.

Bob F wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Bob F wrote:
I have been having infrequent crashes, and would like to find a
newsgroup for assistance on analysing the minidump report data to
figure out what's causing this. Any suggestions?

The newsserver "msnews.microsoft.com" has maybe a thousand newsgroups
related to microsoft products. The one I find most useful is

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Several Microsoft developers participate in the group - though as
volunteers, not as official MS respondents.

Thanks for the help. I found my answer there.

Glad to help you get help. There is one poster on that group, "Alias" by
name, who uses every request for help as a opportunity to pitch Ubangi.

A simple question such as: "What's a good, free, virus checker" results in
"Install Ubuntu and you won't have to worry about viruses." Some respond to
THAT nonsense by retorting "Yeah, and if you date a blow-up doll instead of
the real thing..."

Those of us who stand up to the assault may, someday, have something said
about us similar to:

In the 100 years since the Victoria Cross was created for valour & extreme
courage beyond that normally expected of a British soldier in the face of
the enemy..... only one thousand three hundred & forty four have been
awarded..... eleven of those were won by defenders of the mission station at
Roarke's Drift, Natal. January 22nd to 23rd 1879......... ...
*James Henry Reynolds, Surgeon Major, Army Hospital Corp.
*Conville Bromhead, Lieutenant, B Company 2nd Battalion 24th Regiment of
Foot, South Wales Borderers
*John Rouse Elliot Chard, Lieutenant, Royal Engineers, Officer
Commanding.... Roarke's Drift.

On 4/1/2009 2:34 PM HeyBub spake thus:

Smitty Two wrote:

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a thousand
newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the microsoft
news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but it takes that many
to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use if
even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in the
Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part of the Mac's
software.

I agree with everything you wrote except that last bit. Assuming we're
talking about the Mac OS, Micro$oft wrote *none* of that. So far as
application software is concerned, well, yeah, a lot of MS software runs
on the Mac, but there's also a ton of non-MS stuff.

Personally, I still think of Mac users as kind of a cult; nothing really
intrinsically better about the system, apart from the Unix core (which a
lot of Mac users don't even know or care about) and the superior
prettiness of the Mac desktop--big deal.


--
Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least
mostly pears.
Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

(with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers)

David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 4/1/2009 2:34 PM HeyBub spake thus:

Smitty Two wrote:

Imagine that. A family of products so ****ty that it takes a
thousand newsgroups to keep the Big Lie alive.

As it turns out, there are about 2,760 newsgroups served by the
microsoft news server. Not all are intensely active, of course, but
it takes that many to service over a billion users.

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the
installed computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular
than various versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market,
no one will use if even if it was given to them.

I suspect the main reason for the Mac's popularity not being down in
the Linux range is the fact that Microsoft wrote a substantial part
of the Mac's software.

I agree with everything you wrote except that last bit. Assuming we're
talking about the Mac OS, Micro$oft wrote *none* of that. So far as
application software is concerned, well, yeah, a lot of MS software
runs on the Mac, but there's also a ton of non-MS stuff.

I was referring to "Office for Mac."


Personally, I still think of Mac users as kind of a cult; nothing
really intrinsically better about the system, apart from the Unix
core (which a lot of Mac users don't even know or care about) and the
superior prettiness of the Mac desktop--big deal.

See "Microsoft Derangement Syndrome."

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:56:46 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Tony Sivori wrote:
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Still, the Mac is more popular than various versions of Linux which, at
less than 1% of the market,

Linux usage is way above 1%, not under. Since there is no registration,
and typically no sale involved, the numbers are very hard to track.

For instance, I bought a new Dell last week. It came with Vista Home
Premium. I asked Dell if I could get it with Ubuntu, but they would not
sell that particular model with Ubuntu.

This weekend I'll be wiping Vista and installing Linux. But Microsoft
got paid, and Microsoft will forever count my computer as a Vista
computer.

That often cited 1% market share figure is 100% bogus.


The percentage of desktop machine running Linux may not be precise, but it
is accurate.

No, it isn't. For several reasons. One is the websites that are monitored.
Less technically oriented websites tend to have fewer Linux users.

The biggest reason is browser spoofing. Many Microsoft FrontPage created
websites checked the browser and OS. It was fairly common practice to
throw up a bogus error page that any non MS Explorer browser was
incompatible.

So the KDE / Konqueror developers made it point and click easy for
Konqueror users to identify themselves to websites as Internet Explorer
users running any selected Microsoft OS. Many users select this option to
eliminate the bogus website error messages.

As of April 2nd, Linux market share was reported to be 0.90% by the Market
Share report of Net Applications.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

"Estimates for the desktop market share of Linux range from less than one
percent to almost two percent..."

(with references)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#M...are_and_uptake

Outdated. W3C reports over 2% currently, and for reasons listed above even
that number is lower than the real number.

As to your claim that your new machine will always count as a Vista
machine, that's not how Net Applications tabulates current usage. While
Microsoft is grateful for your purchase, Net Applications monitors net
traffic and counts which OS is the current traffic generator.

It only counts what it is told. The default KDE web browser allows
spoofing.

If you like Linux, go for it.

I do. I will.

For me, having to choose between Linux and having a girlfriend is a
no-brainer.

You can do better than that.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use
if even if it was given to them.

Microsoft is afraid of Linux and works very hard on many fronts to slow
Linux adoption. Some of Microsoft's methods a the meritless SCO lawsuit
by proxy, bullying OEM agreements that forbid selling dual boot machines,
astroturfing, patent FUD and other FUD, charity software donations to
schools and developing countries that forbid the co-use of GPL and Open
Source software (ruling out using Linux), and many other tactics.

Balmer was right about one thing. Linux is a cancer to Microsoft, and is
Microsoft's number one peril. It is going to eat them, but it will be a
slow process.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:19:41 -0400, Tony Sivori
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Of course you're using a Mac (accounting for about 7% of the installed
computer customer base). Still, the Mac is more popular than various
versions of Linux which, at less than 1% of the market, no one will use
if even if it was given to them.

Microsoft is afraid of Linux and works very hard on many fronts to slow
Linux adoption. Some of Microsoft's methods a the meritless SCO lawsuit
by proxy, bullying OEM agreements that forbid selling dual boot machines,
astroturfing, patent FUD and other FUD, charity software donations to
schools and developing countries that forbid the co-use of GPL and Open
Source software (ruling out using Linux), and many other tactics.

Balmer was right about one thing. Linux is a cancer to Microsoft, and is
Microsoft's number one peril. It is going to eat them, but it will be a
slow process.

Every couple of years I devote a few days to trying the latest version
of Linux. The last attempt was Ubuntu. I had a few problems and was
told, no try Kubuntu. In fact, I was told to try about five different
distros. Well, I don't have time to work through that. XP works fine,
and I've installed W7 on one machine and even in beta that works fine.
I get the feeling that all Linux distros are in permanent beta.

Unlike Linux groupies, software being free isn't the most important
thing for me. Part of that, I suppose, is because I'm a programmer and
I like to get paid. Some free software is really good, but most Linux
programs are flakey, because they appear to get about 98% done before
the kids get tired of trying to finish it, I'm told to use the last
version. Or the next version. Or some completely different program
that does the same thing with an entirely different learning curve.

I'm keeping an eye on the Mono project though. Being able to run
DotNet apps on different Linux flavors will be fun to play with.

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:24:07 -0400, dgk wrote:

Every couple of years I devote a few days to trying the latest version
of Linux. The last attempt was Ubuntu. I had a few problems and was
told, no try Kubuntu. In fact, I was told to try about five different
distros. Well, I don't have time to work through that. XP works fine,
and I've installed W7 on one machine and even in beta that works fine. I
get the feeling that all Linux distros are in permanent beta.

I know what you mean. I had the same feeling about Windows when I tried
Vista that came with my new Dell. I wanted to get some use out of what I'd
paid for, but in less than a week I knew that it wasn't going to serve my
needs.

Unlike Linux groupies, software being free isn't the most important
thing for me.

Me either. I don't mind paying for good software. I've payed for Mandrake
(now Mandriva) and I've donated to a newsreader that I use just about
every day. The fact that GPL software is usually free of charge is just
the icing on the cake.

Part of that, I suppose, is because I'm a programmer and I like to get
paid.

Nothing wrong with that. Lots of people get paid to write free software.
We all need to eat.

Some free software is really good, but most Linux programs are flakey,
because they appear to get about 98% done before the kids get tired of
trying to finish it,

Just like Windows. For instance, I used Outlook Express for years. Did
they ever fix the sig delimiter problem, or the mangled quotes? Or do
Microsoft's customers still have to use that program written by a kid, OE
Quotefix?

I'm told to use the last version. Or the next version. Or some
completely different program that does the same thing with an entirely
different learning curve.

Choice can be overwhelming, especially if you are not accustomed to it. I
do recall that feeling when I first switched to Linux, that was five years
ago.

I'm keeping an eye on the Mono project though. Being able to run DotNet
apps on different Linux flavors will be fun to play with.

Why would you want to write software for an OS that you don't use and
don't like?

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

Tony Sivori wrote:

. . . . For instance, I used Outlook Express for years. Did
they ever fix the sig delimiter problem, or the mangled quotes? Or do
Microsoft's customers still have to use that program written by a
kid, OE Quotefix?


I'm using OE Quotefix, so I guess Microsoft never did fix the propblem.