Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. Both the freezer and
refrigerator are still working. I find no icing on the freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a stoppage in the
freezer drain. Would that be a good guess?

And, before I go to the trouble of looking for that, is there anything
else that might cause this condition?

Thanks,
George

On Mar 8, 10:30*am, George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. *Both the freezer and
refrigerator are still working. *I find no icing on the freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a stoppage in the
freezer drain. *Would that be a good guess?

snip

You're right on target. Fix the drain, then do the paper test on the
gaskets around the door.

Joe

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:59:08 -0700 (PDT), Joe wrote:

On Mar 8, 10:30*am, George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. *Both the freezer and
refrigerator are still working. *I find no icing on the freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a stoppage in the
freezer drain. *Would that be a good guess?

snip

You're right on target. Fix the drain, then do the paper test on the
gaskets around the door.

Is it possible that there's not a drain in the freezer? This model has
the coils under the freezer floor, and then (apparently) circulates
freezer air to the refrigerator section with a fan.

I don't see anything in the freezer that looks like a drain line. Nor
any sign of water accumulation.

G

George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner...

Many refrigerators have electric heaters on the surface where the door
seal makes contact with the main cabinet to prevent condensation from
forming. The part separating the freezer from the cold section has
continuous heat, and the heater around the rest of the freezer section
is controlled by the "economy switch." My guess is that the heater is
no longer working.

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:11:06 -0400, George wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:59:08 -0700 (PDT), Joe wrote:

On Mar 8, 10:30Â*am, George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. Â*Both the freezer
and refrigerator are still working. Â*I find no icing on the freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a stoppage in the
freezer drain. Â*Would that be a good guess?

snip

You're right on target. Fix the drain, then do the paper test on the
gaskets around the door.

Is it possible that there's not a drain in the freezer? This model has
the coils under the freezer floor, and then (apparently) circulates
freezer air to the refrigerator section with a fan.

I don't see anything in the freezer that looks like a drain line. Nor
any sign of water accumulation.

G

George:

The drain usually won't be visible to you. It will most likely hidden
behind the plastic liner of the freezer. The most likely place for the
frost to form is on the freezer's cold coil. A fan will normally blow
the freezer air past this coil for circulation about the freezer. You
need to remove the plastic cowling covering the fan and coil. To make it
a "frost free", somehow or someway the frost on the coils is warmed up,
melted, and drained down onto a shallow pan under the refrigerator (where
the water is evaporated into the kitchen air.) This melting occurs now
and then but not every day.

A small tube for the water from above will drain down onto the shallow
pan. This is the tube that gets plugged up.

You'll have to pull all the food, ice maker, shelves, etc,
out of the freezer. Take the back off, and also carefully
pull the bottom of the freezer out. The drain should be way
in the back, in the center. It may be full of a layer of
ice, that needs to be melted first. Drain is typically about
1/4 inch diameter.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"George" wrote in message
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Is it possible that there's not a drain in the freezer?
This model has
the coils under the freezer floor, and then (apparently)
circulates
freezer air to the refrigerator section with a fan.

I don't see anything in the freezer that looks like a drain
line. Nor
any sign of water accumulation.

G

What?????

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"Bob" wrote in message
...
George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has
suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of
the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner...

Many refrigerators have electric heaters on the surface where
the door seal makes contact with the main cabinet to prevent
condensation from forming. The part separating the freezer from
the cold section has continuous heat, and the heater around the
rest of the freezer section is controlled by the "economy
switch." My guess is that the heater is no longer working.

Do exactly what Stormin says. I found ours with a piece of
plastic meat wrapper and some popcorn kernels (wife used to keep
popcorn in the freezer) blocking the drain. While you have it
opened up, you can check the defrost element to make sure it works
and that the fan motor works.

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Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"George" wrote in message
...
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has
suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of
the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. Both the
freezer and
refrigerator are still working. I find no icing on the freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a stoppage
in the
freezer drain. Would that be a good guess?

And, before I go to the trouble of looking for that, is there
anything
else that might cause this condition?

Thanks,
George

Turkey baster full of hot water, and blast out the drain.
Then look under the fridge, and make sure the water ended up
in the catch basin next to the condensor. And clean the
catch basin, they are typically filthy.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"DanG" wrote in message
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Do exactly what Stormin says. I found ours with a piece of
plastic meat wrapper and some popcorn kernels (wife used to
keep
popcorn in the freezer) blocking the drain. While you have
it
opened up, you can check the defrost element to make sure it
works
and that the fan motor works.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"George" wrote in message
...
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980)
has
suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the
underside of
the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner. Both
the
freezer and
refrigerator are still working. I find no icing on the
freezer
walls/floor, and the floor does not seem wet.

From other reading, I'm guessing that this is due to a
stoppage
in the
freezer drain. Would that be a good guess?

And, before I go to the trouble of looking for that, is
there
anything
else that might cause this condition?

Thanks,
George

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:23:10 -0700, Bob wrote:

George wrote:
Our refrigerator (freezer-on-top, GE "No Frost", c 1980) has suddenly
started producing large amounts of water along the underside of the
freezer door - possibly only at the 'open' corner...

Many refrigerators have electric heaters on the surface where the door
seal makes contact with the main cabinet to prevent condensation from
forming. The part separating the freezer from the cold section has
continuous heat, and the heater around the rest of the freezer section
is controlled by the "economy switch." My guess is that the heater is
no longer working.

Well, there are wires going into the wall at the perimeter of the door
opening. (This, in addition to the wires for the door switch.) And,
there is a heater element between the coils. So, if I'm understanding
you right, that would match what you're saying.

When you say "the heater is no longer working", is that the one between
the coils, or the one around the door? Since the coils are not iced up,
and the door is leaking, I'd guess the one around the door?

G

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:10:52 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You'll have to pull all the food, ice maker, shelves, etc,
out of the freezer. Take the back off, and also carefully
pull the bottom of the freezer out. The drain should be way
in the back, in the center. It may be full of a layer of
ice, that needs to be melted first. Drain is typically about
1/4 inch diameter.

Actually, I had already removed the freezer floor. But, I went back and
did it again. I still don't see a drain opening. There is no ice
build-up. And, I don't see any evidence of a drain line coming to the
bottom of the lower portion, where the drain to the evaporator tray is.
Sometimes, I just miss things. But, is it possible that some
refrigerators don't have a freezer drain? This is a 1980-ish model.

G

The drain line goes out the back of the refrigerator, usually
center and at the elevation of the floor of the freezer. Algae,
ice, or some other combination can block the drain. As Stormin
said, it can be cleared by a shot of hot bleach water shot up the
drain line.



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"George" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:10:52 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You'll have to pull all the food, ice maker, shelves, etc,
out of the freezer. Take the back off, and also carefully
pull the bottom of the freezer out. The drain should be way
in the back, in the center. It may be full of a layer of
ice, that needs to be melted first. Drain is typically about
1/4 inch diameter.

Actually, I had already removed the freezer floor. But, I went
back and
did it again. I still don't see a drain opening. There is no
ice
build-up. And, I don't see any evidence of a drain line coming
to the
bottom of the lower portion, where the drain to the evaporator
tray is.
Sometimes, I just miss things. But, is it possible that some
refrigerators don't have a freezer drain? This is a 1980-ish
model.

G

What you're describing (cold coils in the floor of the
freezer) could only be a frost free model. If it's frost
free, it's got a drain. Wish I could give you more details.
The drain is always in the center, in the back. At least the
ones I've fixed.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"George" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:10:52 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You'll have to pull all the food, ice maker, shelves, etc,
out of the freezer. Take the back off, and also carefully
pull the bottom of the freezer out. The drain should be way
in the back, in the center. It may be full of a layer of
ice, that needs to be melted first. Drain is typically
about
1/4 inch diameter.

Actually, I had already removed the freezer floor. But, I
went back and
did it again. I still don't see a drain opening. There is
no ice
build-up. And, I don't see any evidence of a drain line
coming to the
bottom of the lower portion, where the drain to the
evaporator tray is.
Sometimes, I just miss things. But, is it possible that
some
refrigerators don't have a freezer drain? This is a
1980-ish model.

G