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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart
to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message
... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... |
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On Feb 21, 9:57�am, "Charlie Darwin" wrote:
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... bad bulb ........ |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
Charlie Darwin wrote:
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... yes, NO continuity mean bad bulb. duh. |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? *NO continuity equals a broken filament. Replace the bulb. |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... Happens often Spend the 2 bucks for a new one. |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... You are asking if a burned-out bulb is bad? This is why I don't believe in evolution. If you stick it in another (more portable) lamp and flick it with your fingernail while it is on sometimes the filament will reconnect and weld itself back in place. This, of course, works better with DC than with AC. I have fixed many incandesant bulbs this way. |
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"Ulysses" wrote in message
... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... You are asking if a burned-out bulb is bad? This is why I don't believe in evolution. If you stick it in another (more portable) lamp and flick it with your fingernail while it is on sometimes the filament will reconnect and weld itself back in place. This, of course, works better with DC than with AC. I have fixed many incandesant bulbs this way. Better reread the OP a bit more carefully and The Origin of the Species too ;-) |
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Charlie Darwin wrote:
.... Better reread ... The Origin of the Species too ;-) Might "otter" check on the title of the work... -- |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:06:25 -0500, Charlie Darwin wrote:
"Ulysses" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... You are asking if a burned-out bulb is bad? This is why I don't believe in evolution. If you stick it in another (more portable) lamp and flick it with your fingernail while it is on sometimes the filament will reconnect and weld itself back in place. This, of course, works better with DC than with AC. I have fixed many incandesant bulbs this way. Better reread the OP a bit more carefully and The Origin of the Species too ;-) What an imaginative work of fiction! |
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Appliance Bulb Filament Continuity
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Ulysses" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... You are asking if a burned-out bulb is bad? This is why I don't believe in evolution. If you stick it in another (more portable) lamp and flick it with your fingernail while it is on sometimes the filament will reconnect and weld itself back in place. This, of course, works better with DC than with AC. I have fixed many incandesant bulbs this way. Better reread the OP a bit more carefully and The Origin of the Species too ;-) Hmmm... I re-read it and it looks like you asked if a bulb does not light up and shows no continuity... obviously I'm missing something here... maybe I decended from the other race of humans :-| |
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In article , Ulysses wrote:
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... You are asking if a burned-out bulb is bad? This is why I don't believe in evolution. If you stick it in another (more portable) lamp and flick it with your fingernail while it is on sometimes the filament will reconnect and weld itself back in place. This, of course, works better with DC than with AC. I have fixed many incandesant bulbs this way. My dad taught me that trick - as in worked roughly or maybe a little over half the time with his bedtable light that had a 12V output transformer and used a # 93 lamp/"bulb". In my experience, a resuscitated incandescent usually dies again fairly soon and less repairably. Resuscitating a burnt out incandescent appears to me to be a temporary repair, allowing someone to put a replacement lamp / "bulb" on the weekly shopping list and still have light that morning or the next evening. - Don Klipstein ) |
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"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message
... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... OK guys-- off to the appliance parts store. I'll post back later... |
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"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message
... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... OK guys-- off to the appliance parts store. I'll post back later... Parts guy was stumped by the intact filament/no continuity too (see Van's post). But I decided to try a new bulb (for $11.24. It shows continuity.....and works. Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions. |
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.... Parts guy was stumped by the intact filament/no continuity too ... Just because you the break was visible doesn't (obviously) imply it was/is intact. Nor, of course, that the fault could be at the connection of one end of the filament to the base, etc., ... When it doesn't light and measures open, it's pretty clear it's defective. -- |
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"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message Parts guy was stumped by the intact filament/no continuity too (see Van's post). But I decided to try a new bulb (for $11.24. What is so special about the bulb that they can get that price? You can probably find it cheaper on the internet but then the S&H would be $10. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message Parts guy was stumped by the intact filament/no continuity too (see Van's post). But I decided to try a new bulb (for $11.24. What is so special about the bulb that they can get that price? You can probably find it cheaper on the internet but then the S&H would be $10. Bulb is 25 watt, tubular, about 2 inches tall, integral plastic base with two blades protruding beneath that slide into female connector. The filament is circular going around the circumference of the glass and is supported by 5-6 separate wire posts -- each topped with a loop to support/lock the filament wire. The parts people only had a 20 watt, about 1 1/2 inches tall. That's the one I bought and put into the microwave. No reason a 79 cent standard appliance bulb couldn't have been designed into it originally-- but then again, these are the same guys that forced me to take the entire sheet metal cover off. Good thing I had the right bit to remove the 6 locking torx screws they used to fasten the case. It's really ridiculous they way so many products are designed by graduate engineers using custom/proprietary parts and sub assemblies when standard parts would do just as well. Adds cost, complexity, assembly errors--- and no real benefit to the end user. |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:08:42 -0500, Charlie Darwin wrote:
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... OK guys-- off to the appliance parts store. I'll post back later... Parts guy was stumped by the intact filament/no continuity too (see Van's post). But I decided to try a new bulb (for $11.24. I just had an auto light like that. The problem was not inside the glass, but between the glass and the mount. That is quite high for a bulb. It shows continuity.....and works. Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions. Continuity means it should work. No continuity means it is broken. End of story. |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:57:55 -0500, "Charlie Darwin"
wrote: "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. If you flick the bulb with your finger, you may see the filament vibrate, usually only on one side of the break. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. What happens when you touch the meter leads to each other? There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... |
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"mm" wrote in message
... On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:57:55 -0500, "Charlie Darwin" wrote: "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. If you flick the bulb with your finger, you may see the filament vibrate, usually only on one side of the break. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. What happens when you touch the meter leads to each other? There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... The filament is circular going around the circumference of the glass and is supported by 5-6 separate wire posts -- each topped with a loop to support/lock the filament wire. When touching the meter leads together-- the needle deflects all the way showing continuity. |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:33:55 -0500, "Charlie Darwin"
wrote: "mm" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:57:55 -0500, "Charlie Darwin" wrote: "Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. If you flick the bulb with your finger, you may see the filament vibrate, usually only on one side of the break. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. What happens when you touch the meter leads to each other? There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... The filament is circular going around the circumference of the glass and is supported by 5-6 separate wire posts -- each topped with a loop to support/lock the filament wire. It still might vibrate when flicked. Depends on where it breaks. When touching the meter leads together-- the needle deflects all the way showing continuity. Then your lightbulb is bad, whether the filament vibrates or not. |
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In article , Charlie Darwin wrote:
"Charlie Darwin" wrote in message ... The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Make that ...NO continuity.... Bulb shows lack of continuity and fails to glow, but filament appears intact. I have seen this before. Bulb is bad. Usually the bulb is bad by having a nearly-miscropic-small break in the filament, though bulbs can break elsewhere less visibly. - Don Klipstein ) |
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Charlie Darwin wrote:
The light in my GE microwave quit coming on so after pulling the case apart to get at it (great design, guys!), the filament of this 25 watt plug in bulb looks intact. However, a meter across the two male terminal spades shows no continuity. There's power at the connector supplying the light when the door is open or the oven is running-- so that's not the problem. Could the bulb be bad even when it shows continuity? Hi, Anything is possible. Is there proper voltage across bulb socket when door is open? |
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