There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"

HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"


I have seen laminate that got wet do very poorly.
Newer stuff may be OK.

Lou

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look
nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat issues aside, I think it's a good idea. I built a computer desk and
wanted a fairly rugged, but 'different' kind of work surface. A friend is in
the floor covering business and showed me a Monsanto vinyl termed
'loose-lay'. Glue down isn't required and as you reason, 'good enuff to walk
on' it would do what I wanted. Check out the pics:

http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/2639109307/sizes/o/
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/469080923/sizes/o/

It's also on the bar elsewhere in the same room:
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3085396499/sizes/l/

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"

That's the second most f***ed up idea I EVER heard. Let us know how it
works out.

"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look
nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to
the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"



That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!

Oh, you said other than that ;-)

Well, it's not recommended for bathrooms. Humidity and water issues I
believe is the reason. The amount of water from spills and constantly
being wiped with a wet cloth doesn't sound like a good thing for
longevity.

Yea, the surface of laminate is tough on some of them. The one I
installed (on a floor) contained aluminum oxide particles (used in
sandpaper for metal). But I would think if you ran a knife blade equally
across a piece of laminate and Formica, the Formica would fare better.
All just a hunch though. Nothing to back that up with.

In article ,
"1D10T" wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look
nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat issues aside, I think it's a good idea. I built a computer desk and
wanted a fairly rugged, but 'different' kind of work surface. A friend is in
the floor covering business and showed me a Monsanto vinyl termed
'loose-lay'. Glue down isn't required and as you reason, 'good enuff to walk
on' it would do what I wanted. Check out the pics:

http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/2639109307/sizes/o/
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/469080923/sizes/o/

It's also on the bar elsewhere in the same room:
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3085396499/sizes/l/

Holy crap. Are you working for SETI or something? (I hope your good
taste in sour mash doesn't interfere with productivity too much.)

"1D10T" wrote in
news

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat issues aside, I think it's a good idea. I built a computer desk
and wanted a fairly rugged, but 'different' kind of work surface. A
friend is in the floor covering business and showed me a Monsanto
vinyl termed 'loose-lay'. Glue down isn't required and as you reason,
'good enuff to walk on' it would do what I wanted. Check out the pics:

http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/2639109307/sizes/o/
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/469080923/sizes/o/

It's also on the bar elsewhere in the same room:
http://flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3085396499/sizes/l/




I think there was less hardware in the lab in "Contact".


So uhhhhhh, what's with the peanuts? Is that to lure the aliens like you
would squirrels or something?

"Red Green" wrote in message
...

I think there was less hardware in the lab in "Contact".

There are geeks and then there are *GEEKS* or is it nerds?

This is a working showcase for my computer repair/building side business,
and where I also hold computer classes. The rest of the time it serves as a
media center for parties. It's also tied to the main media room for video
and surround sound.

So uhhhhhh, what's with the peanuts? Is that to lure the aliens like you
would squirrels or something?

LOL They belong at the bar, but this way I don't have to keep getting up
:-) Didn't think anyone would notice them.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look
nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

HeyBub,

If move forward with this idea make sure you use enough glue along the seams
so that is squeezes out evenly and then wipe off the excess before it dries.
This will keep moisture out of the seams and help stop moisture problems.
We did this on a kitchen floor we installed and it held up well during two
plumbing catastrophes.

cm

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:05:41 -0600, HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"


asside from the fact that it would be ****ing ugly?

On Jan 12, 9:26*pm, "1D10T" wrote:
"Red Green" wrote in message

...

I think there was less hardware in the lab in "Contact".

There are geeks and then there are *GEEKS* or is it nerds?

This is a working showcase for my computer repair/building side business,
and where I also hold computer classes. The rest of the time it serves as a
media center for parties. It's also tied to the main media room for video
and surround sound.

So uhhhhhh, what's with the peanuts? Is that to lure the aliens like you
would squirrels or something?

LOL * They belong at the bar, but this way I don't have to keep getting up
:-) * *Didn't think anyone would notice them.

The peanuts are to keep the mouse from running off.

On Jan 12, 9:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"

Not a good idea.

Floor laminates cannot withstand a hot frying pan like formica, it
will melt.

When it gets wet it will swell up and de-laminate.

The edges will be difficult (impossible) to finish properly no matter
what kind of router bit or mechanical hiding you do.

It will have seems allowing water and bacteria from raw meat juices to
grow colonies.

The next buy of the home will laugh at you.

Need I go on?

On Jan 13, 9:19*am, RickH wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"

Not a good idea.

Floor laminates cannot withstand a hot frying pan like formica, it
will melt.

When it gets wet it will swell up and de-laminate.

The edges will be difficult (impossible) to finish properly no matter
what kind of router bit or mechanical hiding you do.

It will have seems allowing water and bacteria from raw meat juices to
grow colonies.

The next buy of the home will laugh at you.

Need I go on?

The next buy of the home will laugh at you.

should be

The next buyer of the home will laugh at you.

"RickH" wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 9:19 am, RickH wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:05 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably look
nice.

I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up to
the
abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary kitchen
conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would
give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging
word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER heard!"

Not a good idea.
The next buyer of the home will laugh at you.

That won't be a problem. One look at the kitchen and no one will ever buy
it.

HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I set
the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool. No
visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it and
heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and let the
thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap. Again, no
visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good side
down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate starts
to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I set
the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool. No
visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it and
heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and let
the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap. Again, no
visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good side
down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate starts
to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay. e

Try to find trivets that 'stand off' from the surfaca at least a half inch
or so; that is to say that they have 'feet' to raise them from the surface
rather than some types I've seen that lay flat. My mother once used a
ceramic trivet like a piece of tile and the heat of a frying pan was
transferred to the Formica and scorched it pretty well.

HeyBub wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I set
the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool. No
visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it and
heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and let the
thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap. Again, no
visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good side
down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate starts
to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.


Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.

Lou

"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I
set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it
cool. No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it
and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas
and let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the
scrap. Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good
side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the
laminate starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a
distracted cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.



I think you should try a whole box over a BBQ. Not that it has anything
to do with your application. It'd just be cool.

Red Green wrote:

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein.
I set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it
cool. No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in
it and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the
gas and let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the
scrap. Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good
side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the
laminate starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a
distracted cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.



I think you should try a whole box over a BBQ. Not that it has
anything to do with your application. It'd just be cool.

I'm sure the result would be at least as tasty as my typical attempts at
BBQing.

On Jan 14, 8:39*am, LouB wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I set
the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool. No
visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it and
heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and let the
thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap. Again, no
visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good side
down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate starts
to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.

Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.

Lou- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Won't affect the laminate but may get into the joints. That would be
a good test.

Harry K

Just leave the hot pans on the stove Duh !!!
Jr


http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutc...oodWorkingPage


http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/1974Tryke

LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"


Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein.
I set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it
cool. No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in
it and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the
gas and let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the
scrap. Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good
side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the
laminate starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a
distracted cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.

Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.

Lou

What about using as a cutting board? Food stains? Water would be my
major concern ..

LouB wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought
I would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up
with a discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea
I EVER heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein.
I set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it
cool. No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in
it and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the
gas and let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on
the scrap. Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate,
good side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the
laminate starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a
distracted cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.


Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.


I did and reported on it sometime back. I put a sliver in a glass of water
and left it for three weeks (replinishing the water from time to time). I
checked the results with a caliper accurate to 0.001 inches.

The soaked material was 0.004 inches thicker than the virgin material. I've
also tried to drive a finishing nail into it, attacked it with a wood rasp,
and offered other insults. That **** is impervious.

They ought to cover the space shuttle with it or make bullet-proof vests
from the stuff.

AZ Nomad wrote:
asside from the fact that it would be ****ing ugly?

In this case I'd say that's a matter of opinion.
A fairly universal opinion. WTF not just use formica. At least it
wouldn't look like you ought to stand up on the countertop and sweep
it then mop it.
I suppose it might be a small improvement over 50 cent/sqft. press on
adhesive tiles.



Wow! Where can you get tiles for fifty cents?

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:16:54 -0600, HeyBub wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
asside from the fact that it would be ****ing ugly?

In this case I'd say that's a matter of opinion.
A fairly universal opinion. WTF not just use formica. At least it
wouldn't look like you ought to stand up on the countertop and sweep
it then mop it.
I suppose it might be a small improvement over 50 cent/sqft. press on
adhesive tiles.



Wow! Where can you get tiles for fifty cents?

home depot and the like. They're ****.

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"


Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I
set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool.
No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it
and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and
let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap.
Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good
side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate
starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.

Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.

Lou

What about using as a cutting board? Food stains? Water would be my
major concern ..

And all the crud that washes into the joints every time you clean the
counter. YUCK!

On Jan 16, 9:58*am, "h" wrote:
"Norminn" wrote in message

m...





LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

There are patterns that resemble butcher-block and would probably
look nice.
I figure if the "engineered" (fake wood) stuff is built to stand up
to the abuse of being on a floor, it could probably take ordinary
kitchen conditions.

Anyway, I've got some left over from a flooring project and thought I
would give it a go -- unless, of course, somebody can come up with a
discouraging word other than "That's the most f***ed up idea I EVER
heard!"

Heat test on "engineered" laminate flooring.

1. I took a metal pot and got some water vigorously boiling therein. I
set the pot on a 6x6-inch scrap of the target laminate and let it cool.
No visible change to the laminate.
2. Hmmm. I get a cast-iron skillet, put a layer of vegetable oil in it
and heated it up until the oil started to smoke. Turned off the gas and
let the thing sit for one minute. Then put the skillet on the scrap.
Again, no visible change to the laminate.
3. Okay, then. Next I get a pair of tongs and hold the laminate, good
side down, in the friggin' gas flame! At about ten seconds, the laminate
starts to char.

I conclude that, even if there's a trivet deficiency - and a distracted
cook - in the kitchen, I should probably be okay.

Try putting some water on it and letting it sit for a while.

Lou

What about using as a cutting board? *Food stains? *Water would be my
major concern ..

And all the crud that washes into the joints every time you clean the
counter. YUCK!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's always been my objection to tiled countertops and back
splashes. I find it hard to believe that no matter how much well you
seal the grout it won't still get all nasty with the stuff that ends
up on kitchen counters.

I've got a deck table with fake grout lines and you can't just wipe it
off. You have to clean each grount line individually. I'd hate to have
to do that everytime I wiped down the kitchen counter and I can't
imagine that my kids would be as fastidious as I am.