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Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid.
Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. On Feb 17th the analog signals will be gone, and everyone will have to get their converter boxes working or they will see a blank screen. While some people have already gotten their converters working, many of us (including myself), have tried them, and found then inferior because the stations are still sending out a low powererd dtv signal. They claim they will increase their power on Feb 17, which may or may not be true, because I'm sure this will not be an overnight change, and there will be technical problems. So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. This is precisely where the government makes no sense at all. Why didn't they make the change in June, July, or August, when anyone can safely go on the roof, and when people can take their time getting things working because they are spending most of their time outdoors away from the tv. I wonder how many people are going to end up in hospitals or dead from working on their antennas in freezing cold weather? I'm sure we'll see much of this on the news. (That's if we can see the news on our tv sets). President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:02:42 -0600, Jimw wrote:
Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. snip I wonder how many people are going to end up in hospitals or dead from working on their antennas in freezing cold weather? I agree, Feb. 17 it's a stupid date, but aren't you being just a bit too pessimistic? Hope everything will go well for you. |
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On Jan 10, 3:02*pm, Jimw wrote:
Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. *The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. * Jim No, what's stupid is people who know change is coming procrastinating until the very last day and then bitching about it. It doesn't matter what date is picked for changeover, there will be tens of thousands of people like you who won't be ready. O'bama may extend the cutover date to give the 'poor' more time to get ready. They will claim to be just as poor 6 months from now as they are today. I do work for the "poor', and while there are some truly needy, you'd be amazed at how many will claim to be destitute while waiting in line and talking on their cell phones. They won't even consider giving up a cell phone bill for food, medicine, or a dtv converter box. |
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On Jan 10, 9:32*pm, Red wrote:
On Jan 10, 3:02*pm, Jimw wrote: Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. *The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. * Jim No, what's stupid is people who know change is coming procrastinating until the very last day and then bitching about it. It doesn't matter what date is picked for changeover, there will be tens of thousands of people like you who won't be ready. *O'bama may extend the cutover date to give the 'poor' more time to get ready. They will claim to be just as poor 6 months from now as they are today. *I do work for the "poor', and while there are some truly needy, you'd be amazed at how many will claim to be destitute while waiting in line and talking on their cell phones. * They won't even consider giving up a cell phone bill for food, medicine, or a dtv converter box. The fact is that most people make their own luck, be it good or bad, and have only themselves to blame for whatever circumstance they find themselves in. You are right, many people will always wait until it is too late and then bitch that they either didn't know or didn't have time. Bought my converter boxes shortly after the coupons became available, didn't have any trouble finding them, and only had to pay sales tax on them. As it turns out, the only TV that I will need them for is in my shop where I normally watch sports while I am working on other projects. |
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Jimw wrote in news:g82im4telm7fs19mos2u7qfcj78qinn17n@
4ax.com: Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. On Feb 17th the analog signals will be gone, and everyone will have to get their converter boxes working or they will see a blank screen. While some people have already gotten their converters working, many of us (including myself), have tried them, and found then inferior because the stations are still sending out a low powererd dtv signal. They claim they will increase their power on Feb 17, which may or may not be true, because I'm sure this will not be an overnight change, and there will be technical problems. So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. This is precisely where the government makes no sense at all. Why didn't they make the change in June, July, or August, when anyone can safely go on the roof, and when people can take their time getting things working because they are spending most of their time outdoors away from the tv. I wonder how many people are going to end up in hospitals Their TV's in rooms will probably work. TV watching problem solved. or dead TV not required. from working on their antennas in freezing cold weather? I'm sure we'll see much of this on the news. (That's if we can see the news on our tv sets). President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:08:42 -0600, Red Green
wrote: or dead TV not required. I don't know. It's going to be hard for me to cut out tv even then. I've arranged to have cable run to my grave. |
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mm wrote in
: On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:08:42 -0600, Red Green wrote: or dead TV not required. I don't know. It's going to be hard for me to cut out tv even then. I've arranged to have cable run to my grave. They'll probably run Night of the Living Dead as frequently as It's a Wonderful Life runs at Christmas for the live ones. |
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" President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! Sounds like you guys are all from New Orleans and ignored the hurricane evacuation orders and then sat in sewer water saying "Where's the government with my free pre-paid debit cards and housing?" for the TV cameras. How could anyone NOT be ready for this? It's been talked about for years. My 83 year old mother managed to take care of the whole thing by herself five months ago. Get a brain and grow-up and stop crying! Oh yeah, let's not forget in August, lots of thunderstorms and people could get hit by lightning putting up those new government paid antennas! BAHO |
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In article ,
"Mr.Spock" wrote: Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! People are being forced to PAY for free over the air TV. Guess who is doing the forcing? duh. $40 one time charge. Oh, the humanity. |
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Mr.Spock wrote:
"Bay Area Holdout" wrote in : " President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! People are being forced to PAY for free over the air TV. Guess who is doing the forcing? duh. You apparently haven't considered that people had to pay for the current equipment to receive free analog programming. The net cost to most people for a converter is likely nill or $5. |
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On Jan 11, 8:59�am, George wrote:
Mr.Spock wrote: "Bay Area Holdout" wrote in : " President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. �I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. �Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. �With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! People are being forced to PAY for free over the air TV. Guess who is doing the forcing? duh. You apparently haven't considered that people had to pay for the current equipment to receive free analog programming. The net cost to most people for a converter is likely nill or $5.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - or hundreds of bucks or a outdoor antenna. if you check the maps the stations or government produced there are many areas losing channels. thats absolutely wrong |
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In article
, " wrote: On Jan 11, 8:59?am, George wrote: Mr.Spock wrote: "Bay Area Holdout" wrote in : " President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. ?I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. ?Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. ?With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! People are being forced to PAY for free over the air TV. Guess who is doing the forcing? duh. You apparently haven't considered that people had to pay for the current equipment to receive free analog programming. The net cost to most people for a converter is likely nill or $5.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - or hundreds of bucks or a outdoor antenna. if you check the maps the stations or government produced there are many areas losing channels. thats absolutely wrong Yeah, it's about as wrong as me not being able to drive down the street that used to be two-way, because now it's one-way. Your congressman's rep treated you like an idiot because you're acting like one. The time for public comment on this issue was several years ago, not a month before the thing is set to go into effect. Most laws are to the benefit of some and the detriment of others. You apparently believe you got the short end this time. So what? Obtain whatever equipment you need to watch TV and get on with your life. Losing a channel or two? BFD. Try for a little perspective. Your life must be pretty sweet if this is the only thing you have to complain about. |
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On Jan 11, 11:02�am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , " wrote: On Jan 11, 8:59?am, George wrote: Mr.Spock wrote: "Bay Area Holdout" wrote in : " President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. ?I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. ?Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. ?With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim Good Lord, yet another government entitlement and people are complaining it's not enough! People are being forced to PAY for free over the air TV. Guess who is doing the forcing? duh. You apparently haven't considered that people had to pay for the current equipment to receive free analog programming. The net cost to most people for a converter is likely nill or $5.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - or hundreds of bucks or a outdoor antenna. if you check the maps the stations or government produced there are many areas losing channels. thats absolutely wrong Yeah, it's about as wrong as me not being able to drive down the street that used to be two-way, because now it's one-way. Your congressman's rep treated you like an idiot because you're acting like one. The time for public comment on this issue was several years ago, not a month before the thing is set to go into effect. Most laws are to the benefit of some and the detriment of others. You apparently believe you got the short end this time. So what? Obtain whatever equipment you need to watch TV and get on with your life. Losing a channel or two? BFD. Try for a little perspective. Your life must be pretty sweet if this is the only thing you have to complain about.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - severasl years ago when this FIASCO BEGAN we were promised much better reception and nice features. now someone dropped the ball, when channels that could be watched are no longer there, or there for just minutes a day, in flawless quality. the remainder of the day a blank screen. Losing ABC altogether is just one example, people in rural areas are having troubles and often no cable is available |
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Jimw wrote:
Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. Slow news day on AHR. |
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On Jan 11, 4:28*am, Norminn wrote:
Jimw wrote: Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. *The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. Slow news day on AHR. But you can rely on someone showing up to bitch about some non- problem. Harry K |
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Jimw wrote:
So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. Sometimes you need to pour a little bleach in the gene pool. People who wait until the last possible minute to deal with the DTV switch and then climb up on their roofs in winter are folks who probably shouldn't be passing on their DNA. |
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DGDevin wrote:
Jimw wrote: So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. Sometimes you need to pour a little bleach in the gene pool. People who wait until the last possible minute to deal with the DTV switch and then climb up on their roofs in winter are folks who probably shouldn't be passing on their DNA. If they have a house, they probably already have. -- aem sends, an exception to that rule.... |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:18:14 -0800, "DGDevin" wrote:
Jimw wrote: So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. Jim, take a moment and go change your panties. You wet them yet again. Sometimes you need to pour a little bleach in the gene pool. This has to be the best single sentence to come out of this whole sordid thread. I gotta remember that one. People who wait until the last possible minute to deal with the DTV switch and then climb up on their roofs in winter are folks who probably shouldn't be passing on their DNA. True. Unfortunately when the toob goes blank, they're likely to do the only OTHER thing that their 2-neuron brains permit and often that results in genes being passed. Me, I don't have a converter box. That's because I don't have a TV. Really, folks, there is an actual world out there away from the idiot box. A world that's kinda exciting once you clear your brain of the spooge that emits from the toob. John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com http://www.johndearmond.com -- best little blog on the net! Tellico Plains, Occupied TN Ever stop to think, and forget to start again? |
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Jimw wrote:
Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. On Feb 17th the analog signals will be gone, and everyone will have to get their converter boxes working or they will see a blank screen. While some people have already gotten their converters working, many of us (including myself), have tried them, and found then inferior because the stations are still sending out a low powererd dtv signal. They claim they will increase their power on Feb 17, which may or may not be true, because I'm sure this will not be an overnight change, and there will be technical problems. So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. This is precisely where the government makes no sense at all. Why didn't they make the change in June, July, or August, when anyone can safely go on the roof, and when people can take their time getting things working because they are spending most of their time outdoors away from the tv. I wonder how many people are going to end up in hospitals or dead from working on their antennas in freezing cold weather? I'm sure we'll see much of this on the news. (That's if we can see the news on our tv sets). President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim if your antenna works before the switch it will work after the switch. no changes necessary. so what are you whining about? |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:24:12 -0500, joe wrote:
if your antenna works before the switch it will work after the switch. no changes necessary. so what are you whining about? Don't confuse 'em with the facts. I'm waiting to see how many fall off the roof trying to install the converter box on their antenna. -- Jack |
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Jack Hunt wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:24:12 -0500, joe wrote: if your antenna works before the switch it will work after the switch. no changes necessary. so what are you whining about? Don't confuse 'em with the facts. I'm waiting to see how many fall off the roof trying to install the converter box on their antenna. -- Jack bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! govt is turning off tv only for Obammy voters. whatta bunch Obamorons. hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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if your antenna works before the switch it will work after the switch. no changes necessary. �so what are you whining about?- obviously you have no knowledge, many people are losing channels they could watch for their lifetime. the new digital channels are not serving as large a area, MAY PLACES WILL BE UNSERVED/ its in the government documents |
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On Jan 12, 7:58�am, joe wrote:
wrote: if your antenna works before the switch it will work after the switch. no changes necessary. so what are you whining about?- obviously you have no knowledge, many people are losing channels they could watch for their lifetime. the new digital channels are not serving as large a area, MAY PLACES WILL BE UNSERVED/ its in the government documents where I live I am picking up *more* channels with *better* picture. thats nice for YOU heres the official FCC service map for pittsburgh stations. see all the orange? thats no longer served. plus many are well within the green area and cant get service either. their grade maps always showed more people than reality |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:11:44 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: heres the official FCC service map for pittsburgh stations. see all the orange? thats no longer served. Uh, where is the map? And do you believe everything the government says? Did you know they took "gullible" out of the new dictionary? And they've come up with a way to make it fade out of the dictionaries already in print. plus many are well within the green area and cant get service either. You know this for a fact? The conversion hasn't happened yet, ya know. their grade maps always showed more people than reality Their map says I cannot get channel 54, yet it's one of the best ones I have. I can't believe that's the only error. How many analog channels do you get right now? How many of those do you actually watch? -- Jack |
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Nobody is going on a ****ing roof with snow on it . Unless they are as
stupid as you are. The box goes on your tv you ass hole !!!! Jr http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutc...oodWorkingPage http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/1974Tryke |
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In article , (Jerry - OHIO) wrote: Nobody is going on a ****ing roof with snow on it . Unless they are as stupid as you are. The box goes on your tv you ass hole !!!! Jr Yeah, and the *antenna* which is what he was talking about, goes on the roof, (you illiterate asshole.) Nevertheless, my compassion for the allegedly disenfranchised is somewhat limited. if they have no antenna then in that case they have no tv reception right now or last summer so the digital switch means nothing to them. Unless they voted for Obammy. In that case they think it might mean something to them, they just don't know what. bwahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Jimw wrote:
Leave it to the government to do things that are entirely stupid. Having the DTV changeover on Feb. 17 is one of them. The majority of Americans are coping with snow and ice and cold weather in February. At the same time, these same people are stuck indoors and watching more tv than they do in warmer weather. On Feb 17th the analog signals will be gone, and everyone will have to get their converter boxes working or they will see a blank screen. While some people have already gotten their converters working, many of us (including myself), have tried them, and found then inferior because the stations are still sending out a low powererd dtv signal. They claim they will increase their power on Feb 17, which may or may not be true, because I'm sure this will not be an overnight change, and there will be technical problems. So, beginning on February 17, how many people are going to fall off snow covered roofs, slip on icy ladders, fall off antenna towers, etc. while trying to do things to their antennas to get better reception. This is precisely where the government makes no sense at all. Why didn't they make the change in June, July, or August, when anyone can safely go on the roof, and when people can take their time getting things working because they are spending most of their time outdoors away from the tv. I wonder how many people are going to end up in hospitals or dead from working on their antennas in freezing cold weather? I'm sure we'll see much of this on the news. (That's if we can see the news on our tv sets). President elect Obama said he wants to extend the date of the changeover because the govt. ran out of money for the coupons. I hope that the date change occurs in warm weather. Maybe wait another 6 months, which would then occur in August. With any hope, Obama will have more sense than previous politicians. Jim I made sure mine was working last summer. |
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