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caulk between backerboard and shower pan
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I'm laying tile in a second floor bathroom. There is an OSB sub- floor. I put 1/4 inch backer board (Hardi) down on the sub-floor and used thinset and screws to attach it down. I haven't started tiling yet. Prior to this there was just carpet over the OSB sub-floor, and we had a small mold issue at the shower; water drips when we open the shower door and it soaked through the carpet and got the OSB wet and there was some mold growth on the carpet there and the sub-floor. I cleaned up the mold very thoroughly before laying down the backer. There is an 1/8 inch gap between the shower pan edge and the backer board, and I'm worried that moisture will get in there as it did before. I read somewhere, but I can't find it again, that I can/should put a bead of silicone between the backer board and the shower pan to seal off the possibility of water getting in there. Then, I'll have tile over that, with another caulk bead between the tile and the shower pan. Does this make sense to do? If so, what kind of caulk should I use between the backer board and the shower pan? I think I would use GE Silicone II. Comments appreciated. |
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On Dec 17, 3:44*am, wrote:
Hi; I'm laying tile in a second floor bathroom. *There is an OSB sub- floor. *I put 1/4 inch backer board (Hardi) down on the sub-floor and used thinset and screws to attach it down. I haven't started tiling yet. Prior to this there was just carpet over the OSB sub-floor, and we had a small mold issue at the shower; water drips when we open the shower door and it soaked through the carpet and got the OSB wet and there was some mold growth on the carpet there and the sub-floor. I cleaned up the mold very thoroughly before laying down the backer. There is an 1/8 inch gap between the shower pan edge and the backer board, and I'm worried that moisture will get in there as it did before. I read somewhere, but I can't find it again, that I can/should put a bead of silicone between the backer board and the shower pan to seal off the possibility of water getting in there. *Then, I'll have tile over that, with another caulk bead between the tile and the shower pan. Does this make sense to do? *If so, what kind of caulk should I use between the backer board and the shower pan? *I think I would use GE Silicone II. Comments appreciated. It would not hurt. The GE stuff would be fine. But if you tile and grout correctly, you should have no water problems. |
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wrote in message ... Hi; I'm laying tile in a second floor bathroom. There is an OSB sub- floor. I put 1/4 inch backer board (Hardi) down on the sub-floor and used thinset and screws to attach it down. I haven't started tiling yet. Prior to this there was just carpet over the OSB sub-floor, and we had a small mold issue at the shower; water drips when we open the shower door and it soaked through the carpet and got the OSB wet and there was some mold growth on the carpet there and the sub-floor. I cleaned up the mold very thoroughly before laying down the backer. There is an 1/8 inch gap between the shower pan edge and the backer board, and I'm worried that moisture will get in there as it did before. I read somewhere, but I can't find it again, that I can/should put a bead of silicone between the backer board and the shower pan to seal off the possibility of water getting in there. Then, I'll have tile over that, with another caulk bead between the tile and the shower pan. Does this make sense to do? If so, what kind of caulk should I use between the backer board and the shower pan? I think I would use GE Silicone II. Do it. Not sure what caulk to recommend, but every little bit of protection helps to prevent water from traveling. |
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You could use Schluter KERDI to seal the backerboard and the joint between
it and the shower base. An 1/8" gap could pose a tile laying problem when trying to fit the tiles against the base, doesn't the shower base have a lip all around that fits behind the tiles to aid in waterproofing the joint? wrote in message ... Hi; I'm laying tile in a second floor bathroom. There is an OSB sub- floor. I put 1/4 inch backer board (Hardi) down on the sub-floor and used thinset and screws to attach it down. I haven't started tiling yet. Prior to this there was just carpet over the OSB sub-floor, and we had a small mold issue at the shower; water drips when we open the shower door and it soaked through the carpet and got the OSB wet and there was some mold growth on the carpet there and the sub-floor. I cleaned up the mold very thoroughly before laying down the backer. There is an 1/8 inch gap between the shower pan edge and the backer board, and I'm worried that moisture will get in there as it did before. I read somewhere, but I can't find it again, that I can/should put a bead of silicone between the backer board and the shower pan to seal off the possibility of water getting in there. Then, I'll have tile over that, with another caulk bead between the tile and the shower pan. Does this make sense to do? If so, what kind of caulk should I use between the backer board and the shower pan? I think I would use GE Silicone II. Comments appreciated. |
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On Dec 17, 2:44*am, wrote:
what kind of caulk should I use between the backer board and the shower pan? *I think I would use GE Silicone II. Many posts in this NG relate problems with GE silicone II. Short shelf life, failure to cure completely, etc. Personally I can confirm the problems. The original silicone formulations are still the best. I've used tubes that have been around the shop for some years with no difficulty at all. But you may want to consider another high performance or specialized sealant, because anything the silicone touches will inhibit bonding of tiles in that area. Polyurethane door and window sealants are possibilities. Choose wisely and good luck. Joe |
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Thanks very much for all of the responses. For the folks who
recommended polyurethanes over the silicone, why is this? Any particular reason? Thanks. |
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On Dec 17, 7:03*am, "EXT" wrote:
You could use Schluter KERDI to seal the backerboard and the joint between it and the shower base. An 1/8" gap could pose a tile laying problem when trying to fit the tiles against the base, doesn't the shower base have a lip all around that fits behind the tiles to aid in waterproofing the joint? The 1/8 inch gap was what was recommended on the installation instructions for the backer board. I guess I'm just figuring since that piece of tile will not be loaded it will be OK to overhang the edge of the backer? The shower base doesn't have a lip, it just goes straight down and sits directly on the subfloor without any kind of flange or lip. |
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On Dec 21, 1:01*am, wrote:
Thanks very much for all of the responses. *For the folks who recommended polyurethanes over the silicone, why is this? *Any particular reason? Thanks Read my post on the subject. Silicones are like Pam in a frying pan or baking pan. Things don't stick to them. A single loose can of silicone spray has been known to shut down a big factory painting operation in just minutes. Knowledge of your materials will always get you a superior outcome. HTH Joe |
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