After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Stay away from electric.

Steve

On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec. She
has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems perfectly
content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could have had gas
run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas), but she decided
that electric was fine.

Perce

On Nov 20, 9:37*am, "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:
On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec. She
has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems perfectly
content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could have had gas
run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas), but she decided
that electric was fine.

Perce

Unless you have subsidised Hydro you pay alot more to cook, I pay 30%
more per Btu for electric. Now Electric companies over the last year
has successfully got major rate increases put through that will stay
in effect, last I saw Ng is in a big down trend. Cooking on electric,
no pro will use electric nor will I. Plus electric electric elements
dont last.

On Nov 20, 12:59*pm, ransley wrote:
On Nov 20, 9:37*am, "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:





On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec. She
has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems perfectly
content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could have had gas
run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas), but she decided
that electric was fine.

Perce

Unless you have subsidised Hydro you pay alot more to cook, I pay 30%
more per Btu for electric. Now Electric companies over the last year
has successfully got major rate increases put through that will stay
in effect, last I saw Ng is in a big down trend. Cooking on electric,
no pro will use electric nor will I. Plus electric electric elements
dont last.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Must be a matter of application and where one is located?

Assuming the OP was asking about ordinary domestic use, where the
requiremnts are to cook daily normal , meals for several people,
conveniently, quietly and safely without wasting a lot of heat to
outside through oven hoods etc.

We also use a microwave for quick heating, re-heating etc. And also
the usual appliances, e.g. toaster etc. We do use some propane in a
camper trailer, but don't drive that much because of the increased
cost of gasoline!

For restaurant/haute-cuisine or celebrity kitchens the requirement
could be very different.

Electricity here (95%+ generated by clean hydro) has gone up slightly
in cost and now averages ten Canadian cents per kilowatt hour. Approx
say 8 to 9 cents US. Or around 4 to 5 pence in the UK. Most here use
electricity for home heating also.

Have found that even used electric stoves are low maintenance and with
electric there no requirements for bottled gas tanks to be so many
feet away from doors or windows of a dwelling etc. etc. or gas
delivery problems. (There is not piped in gas here although we produce
it (and oil) out from wells on the Newfoundland Grand Banks. It's a
tough maritime climate but is a politically stable area of the world;
compared to say Nigeria or competing with the Somali pirates. But
they'd have to come a long way (Transatlantic) to take over a Canadian
oil/gas rig!!!!!!

Also to the point is that huge amounts of electricity are generated
further north at Churchill Falls (Named after that UK compatriot of
FDR) and some of it is exported via Canada to the northern USA. E.g.
New York State.

That production is being greatly increased by another project called
The Lower Churchill during next few years so the prospect is that
politically stable sources of electricity which is less polluting and
foreseeably will remain cheaper, especially when electric vehicles
become common, is the way of the future.

Regards.

"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec. She
has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems perfectly
content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could have had gas
run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas), but she decided
that electric was fine.

Perce

I'm particularly happy with dual fuel, i.e. gas burners and electric
ovens. I'm not sure if there are any available in that price range
however. In that price range I've used GE electrics and they've been
fine.

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec.
She has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems
perfectly content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could
have had gas run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas),
but she decided that electric was fine.


Electrics are deficient in the following areas:
* They take a while to heat up,
* You don't have full control over the heat,
* They don't get as hot as a gas range,
* They cost more to operate,
* You can't tell by looking whether they're on or off,
* You don't have the versatility:
#You can't toast marshmallows on an electric range.
# You can't burn the pin feathers off a freshly-plucked chicken.

HeyBub wrote:

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec.
She has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems
perfectly content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could
have had gas run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas),
but she decided that electric was fine.



Electrics are deficient in the following areas:
* They take a while to heat up,
* You don't have full control over the heat,
* They don't get as hot as a gas range,
* They cost more to operate,
* You can't tell by looking whether they're on or off,
* You don't have the versatility:
#You can't toast marshmallows on an electric range.
# You can't burn the pin feathers off a freshly-plucked chicken.

Electrics do far better at low simmers without burning than gas, except
for the high end gas with intermittent burners for simmer. A separate
electric cook pot (not crock pot) does an acceptable job of covering for
this failing with a gas stove.

Electric ovens are nearly always superior to gas ovens, hence my
preference for a dual fuel setup with gas burners and electric ovens.

Operating cost on either type is not a factor unless you are cooking in
commercial quantities.

and they take longer to cool down.

I have electric, but I prefer gas.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec.
She has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems
perfectly content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could
have had gas run to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas),
but she decided that electric was fine.


Electrics are deficient in the following areas:
* They take a while to heat up,
* You don't have full control over the heat,
* They don't get as hot as a gas range,
* They cost more to operate,
* You can't tell by looking whether they're on or off,
* You don't have the versatility:
#You can't toast marshmallows on an electric range.
# You can't burn the pin feathers off a freshly-plucked chicken.

"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/08 11:24 am SteveB wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Stay away from electric.

Why? My wife was a Home Ec. major in college and has taught Home Ec. She
has used both gas and electric ranges over the years and seems perfectly
content with her new ceramic-top electric range. We could have had gas run
to the kitchen for a gas range (the furnace is gas), but she decided that
electric was fine.

Perce

If it works for you, go for it. I do not like electric. PLUS, electric
stoves have more parts and more to go wrong than gas stoves.

Steve

On Nov 20, 1:24*pm, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:
"Zz Yzx" wrote in message

...

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Stay away from electric.

Steve

Oh gee; we have always since 1960 used bog standard 30 inch electrics.
Including some intensive catering activities between 1970 and 2003.
We are currently on our third or fourth used stove in this 38 year old
house.
This one and the last having cost nothing. They are fairly easy to
repair.
Discarded stoves often being free or very cheap as people renovate.
Stick to white that colour always seems to be available.
Based on experience of friends/neighbours; stainless shows marks very
easily and colours such as black can be dull and go out of style
quickly.
Difficult here, now. to get any new stove that does not use electronic
clock/timers which can be a pain and less reliable than the older
style. Not a big issue here since our power is very reliable and we
are now retired.
Keep it simple and reliable. Avoid unnecessary features. Self clean,
for example, often doesn't!

On Nov 20, 9:41*am, terry wrote:
On Nov 20, 1:24*pm, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:





"Zz Yzx" wrote in message

.. .

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Stay away from electric.

Steve

Oh gee; we have always since 1960 used bog standard 30 inch electrics.
Including some intensive catering activities between 1970 and 2003.
We are currently on our third or fourth used stove in this 38 year old
house.
This one and the last having cost nothing. They are fairly easy to
repair.
Discarded stoves often being free or very cheap as people renovate.
Stick to white that colour always seems to be available.
Based on experience of friends/neighbours; stainless shows marks very
easily and colours such as black can be dull and go out of style
quickly.
Difficult here, now. to get any new stove that does not use electronic
clock/timers which can be a pain and less reliable than the older
style. Not a big issue here since our power is very reliable and we
are now retired.
Keep it simple and reliable. Avoid unnecessary features. Self clean,
for example, often doesn't!- Hide quoted text -

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Oh gee, my electric elements lasted 5 years, you can`t have heat
control like gas offers, or cook as cheaply. Electric is for those
that have no gas or don`t know how to cook. Show me a pro chef
restruant that uses electric, and it will be on Kitchen Nightmares
show for sure. And you closed your catering business!.

On Nov 20, 8:50*am, ransley wrote:
Show me a pro chef
restruant that uses electric, and it will be on Kitchen Nightmares
show for sure. *And you closed your catering business!.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Enough with the insults ("don't know how to cook"). The difference is
that this person is talking about an appliance in his home, not in a
restaurant kitchen with industrial ventilation and huge mixers. If
you want to get industrial everything in your home, fine... but not
everyone does. I don't have a 747 parked in my driveway.

On Nov 20, 10:55*am, mike wrote:
On Nov 20, 8:50*am, ransley wrote:
Show me a pro chef

restruant that uses electric, and it will be on Kitchen Nightmares
show for sure. *And you closed your catering business!.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Enough with the insults ("don't know how to cook"). *The difference is
that this person is talking about an appliance in his home, not in a
restaurant kitchen with industrial ventilation and huge mixers. * If
you want to get industrial everything in your home, fine... but not
everyone does. *I don't have a 747 parked in my driveway.

Who said industrial, what pro uses electric, electric sucks unless
boiling water is what you call cooking.

SteveB wrote:
"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz


Stay away from electric.

Steve


I agree. We have a gas cooktop on one island and an electric cook top
in another. With few exceptions my wife always cooks on the gas one.
It is more responsive. Heats faster and cools down faster. I can't
imagine cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. A
20,000 BTU gas burner heats up fast.

Boden

On Nov 20, 2:23*pm, Boden wrote:
*I can't
imagine cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. *A
20,000 BTU gas burner heats up fast.

Boden- Hide quoted text -

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While you have a high-end model, no doubt, gas burners are typically
slower to boil water than electric.

"mike" wrote in message
...
On Nov 20, 2:23 pm, Boden wrote:
I can't
imagine cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. A
20,000 BTU gas burner heats up fast.

Boden- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


While you have a high-end model, no doubt, gas burners are typically
slower to boil water than electric.


Reply:

Yabbut ....................... I can see the flame when I turn it on instead
of waiting and seeing if the heat asked for on the knob is the heat
delivered at the burner.

Admit it. Your idea of a gourmet meal is macaroni and cheese that costs
more than sixty-nine cents a box. If you were a cook, you'd know what's
being discussed here.

Steve

SteveB wrote:

"mike" wrote in message
...
On Nov 20, 2:23 pm, Boden wrote:
I can't
imagine cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. A
20,000 BTU gas burner heats up fast.

Boden- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

While you have a high-end model, no doubt, gas burners are typically
slower to boil water than electric.

Reply:

Yabbut ....................... I can see the flame when I turn it on instead
of waiting and seeing if the heat asked for on the knob is the heat
delivered at the burner.

Those with the halogen type electrics can see the glow as well. The
calrod style electrics do have some lag time, but on the high setting
they glow as well.

And yes, calrod style electrics tend to have better heat conduction to
the pot/pan due to direct contact, vs. gas where a considerable
percentage of the heat generated flows around the sides of the pot/pan
and out the vent hood.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both.

"Boden" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz


Stay away from electric.

Steve
I agree. We have a gas cooktop on one island and an electric cook top in
another. With few exceptions my wife always cooks on the gas one. It is
more responsive. Heats faster and cools down faster. I can't imagine
cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. A 20,000 BTU
gas burner heats up fast.

Boden

It comes down to this for ME, Boden. People who know how to cook choose
gas. It's very simple.

Now, IF I am stuck somewhere (like where I live now) where gas is not
available, I CAN use electricity. However, I prefer using the $50 used
propane four burner stove in my cabin to the nice electric range I have in
my house.

We are going to do a kitchen remodel as soon as our ship is released from
Somali custody, and the numero uno priority is having a large propane tank
installed and gas piped to the new GAS range.

Steve

SteveB wrote:

"Boden" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz


Stay away from electric.

Steve
I agree. We have a gas cooktop on one island and an electric cook top in
another. With few exceptions my wife always cooks on the gas one. It is
more responsive. Heats faster and cools down faster. I can't imagine
cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. A 20,000 BTU
gas burner heats up fast.

Boden

It comes down to this for ME, Boden. People who know how to cook choose
gas. It's very simple.

Now, IF I am stuck somewhere (like where I live now) where gas is not
available, I CAN use electricity. However, I prefer using the $50 used
propane four burner stove in my cabin to the nice electric range I have in
my house.

We are going to do a kitchen remodel as soon as our ship is released from
Somali custody, and the numero uno priority is having a large propane tank
installed and gas piped to the new GAS range.

Steve

People who know how to cook just cook. While I have a nice dual fuel
stove in my current house, the previous house had a crappy old electric
stove and I produced great dinners there too.

From the small amount of appliance shopping I've done, it appears that
at any given price point, you can get a better quality electric stove
than gas stove.

On Nov 20, 8:49*pm, "Pete C." wrote:
SteveB wrote:

"Boden" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
. ..

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Stay away from electric.

Steve
I agree. *We have a gas cooktop on one island and an electric cook top in
another. *With few exceptions my wife always cooks on the gas one. It is
more responsive. *Heats faster and cools down faster. *I can't imagine
cooking with a wok or boiling lobsters on an electric unit. *A 20,000 BTU
gas burner heats up fast.

Boden

It comes down to this for ME, Boden. *People who know how to cook choose
gas. *It's very simple.

Now, IF I am stuck somewhere (like where I live now) where gas is not
available, I CAN use electricity. *However, I prefer using the $50 used
propane four burner stove in my cabin to the nice electric range I have in
my house.

We are going to do a kitchen remodel as soon as our ship is released from
Somali custody, and the numero uno priority is having a large propane tank
installed and gas piped to the new GAS range.

Steve

People who know how to cook just cook.

Yeah, and people who play the violin just play. I suppose that makes
a $100 violin from the pawn shop about the same as a Stradavarius. I
provided a survey earlier that showed 96% of pro chefs prefer gas.
If it didn't make a rat's ass of difference to them and they think
electric and gas are just as good, why is that? I wonder what and how
often some of you guys actually cook.




While I have a nice dual fuel
stove in my current house, the previous house had a crappy old electric
stove and I produced great dinners there too.

From the small amount of appliance shopping I've done, it appears that
at any given price point, you can get a better quality electric stove
than gas stove.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you want to save money, that's perfectly fine. But it doesn't
change the fact that pro chefs and most serious cooks prefer gas.

On Nov 20, 9:15*am, Zz Yzx wrote:
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

I have an apt bldg and the 50 yr old stuff I dont throw away, I think
for 5-700 they are all very poorly made, I have a used appliance
dealer that got me a few real nice units worth maybe 6-800 new today
for 150 instaled. You dont know what you are getting anymore with
china in charge, at least we dont buy chinese milk, and know about
chinese kids toys, and chinese dog food. You wont get the quality you
now have unless you pay thousands. Just compare price by inflation
over 32 years. Get what you like, its all disposable stuff now,
Consumers Reports has good ratings on how well they cook, subscribe
online.

Zz Yzx wrote:
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,

Monitor Craigslist for your vicinity. You can get one free.

"HeyBub" wrote:

Monitor Craigslist for your vicinity. You can get one free.

Yep.

Jon

On Nov 20, 7:15*am, Zz Yzx wrote:
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Get an electric with "tight" coils. They are higher quality than the
scrawny-coil types.

Advantages of electric;

-No dangerous open flame
-No added humidity from combustion
-No explosion hazard
-No stink
-More efficient transfer of energy from element to pan instead of
wasting energy on hot combustion gases flowing up around the pot/pan
unused in large quantities
-Cooler workspace above pan for stirring (see previous point)
-Durable coils

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't appreciate the finer aspects
of gas cooking. But if you don't already have a gas line in place by
your range, and any of the above points are important to you, I
suggest electric, especially if you're already used to it's heating
response characteristics.

I don't recommend smoothtops. Too many people have too many problems
with cracks, stains, pot size acceptance problems, etc.

On Nov 20, 11:46*am, mike wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:15*am, Zz Yzx wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Get an electric with "tight" coils. *They are higher quality than the
scrawny-coil types.

Advantages of electric;

-No dangerous open flame
-No added humidity from combustion
-No explosion hazard
-No stink
-More efficient transfer of energy from element to pan instead of
wasting energy on hot combustion gases flowing up around the pot/pan
unused in large quantities
-Cooler workspace above pan for stirring (see previous point)
-Durable coils

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't appreciate the finer aspects
of gas cooking. *But if you don't already have a gas line in place by
your range, and any of the above points are important to you, I
suggest electric, especially if you're already used to it's heating
response characteristics.

I don't recommend smoothtops. *Too many people have too many problems
with cracks, stains, pot size acceptance problems, etc.

Curious that you can only find the negatives for gas, and some of them
highly dubious at that. It would seem a fair person would get a
piece of paper and list the pros and cons for both electric and gas,
as opposed to concentrating on one side of the page. Did you help
Bush when he was making the decision to go to war in Iraq?

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:15:01 -0800, Zz Yzx
wrote:

After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz


Stick with the well-known brands as you'll never know when you may
need a spare part. Might be good to make a list of features you need,
features you want, and then order the list by importance. Research
Consumer Reports repair records for brands you might want to avoid. My
Whirlpool gas range has made it 17 years with one valve controller diy
replacement; ranges can last a very long time.

On Nov 20, 10:15*am, Zz Yzx wrote:
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? *$500-$700 price range?

I don't know about all these other people with their electric vs. gas
argument. I have a wood-fired range and oven.

You don't get that nasty gas smell. No open flames. No control knobs
for kids to burn themselves or burn the house down with. Lots cheaper
than electric. My oven is 112 years old, made in 1896.

Don't waste your time on gas or electric. You don't see gas or
electric cooking at the REAL pizza shops or barbecue joints.... The
true professionals cook with WOOD!

"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

In that price range, not much difference from what I saw. You'll get a
basic range, not fancy controls and circuit boards to break in five years.
It will do any basic cooking that 90% of people do.

If you want lots of fancy features, figure $1000 and up. Way up. You can
drop $10,000 on a range.

I do love my Bertazzoni though. This is mine.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/Pro...CatID=PS&ID=47

I don't remember you writing if you wanted gas or electric. I'd try to see
if Consumer Reports has a free online section. Have a look at that. I'd try
to avoid anything complicated. Electronic circuits tend to go bad. Having
done some appliance repair, the parts house guys call GE "Generally
Expensive". Their replacement parts are higher cost than other brands. I
also avoid Sears, I personally don't like the company.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Zz Yzx" wrote in message
...
After a measly 32 years, my range has cratered.

Any rec's for a new one? $500-$700 price range?

Any ones to stay away from?

Thanks a heap,
-Zz

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I don't remember you writing if you wanted gas or electric. I'd try to see
if Consumer Reports has a free online section. Have a look at that. I'd try
to avoid anything complicated. Electronic circuits tend to go bad. Having
done some appliance repair, the parts house guys call GE "Generally
Expensive". Their replacement parts are higher cost than other brands. I
also avoid Sears, I personally don't like the company.

But some Kenmore stuff gets high marks from Consumer Reports (which are
in the library).

Lou

Sometimes, you favor or avoid a brand cause you don't like the company. If I
read a Consumer Reports, and Sears was the only A+++ rated range, I'd still
buy some other brand.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"LouB" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I don't remember you writing if you wanted gas or electric. I'd try to see
if Consumer Reports has a free online section. Have a look at that. I'd
try
to avoid anything complicated. Electronic circuits tend to go bad. Having
done some appliance repair, the parts house guys call GE "Generally
Expensive". Their replacement parts are higher cost than other brands. I
also avoid Sears, I personally don't like the company.

But some Kenmore stuff gets high marks from Consumer Reports (which are
in the library).

Lou

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:35:25 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Sometimes, you favor or avoid a brand cause you don't like the company. If I
read a Consumer Reports, and Sears was the only A+++ rated range, I'd still
buy some other brand.


There are some pluses with Sears. They guarantee most of the products
they sell, I found Sears has available parts online. Kenmore is not
high-end quality, but often above average. I have seen brand-quality
vary over time so what was good 10-20 years ago may still not be good.

Shears used to, and probably still uses off spec parts. So if you want a set
of breaker points for a Sears Tecumseh engine, the ordinary Tecumseh points
won't work. I'm sure they do a lot of things like that to keep the parts
traffic coming back. But, not *MY* parts traffic.

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"Phisherman" wrote in message
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There are some pluses with Sears. They guarantee most of the products
they sell, I found Sears has available parts online. Kenmore is not
high-end quality, but often above average. I have seen brand-quality
vary over time so what was good 10-20 years ago may still not be good.