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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. This was setup as they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. This is the way I usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way? The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.



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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the
house, rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. This was setup
as they have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow
towards the water area, and we would us less finish surface baords,
utiling single 16' runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all decks
he has seen usually run parellel to the house. This is the way I
usually see them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? We
are already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn
back now, but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it
this way? The deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10"
bords instead of the normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


As long as you have adequate support, the direction the boards run is
just a question of taste. The last deck I built had the boards running
perpendicular to the house.

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Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way? The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.

....
Assuming that means you ran the joists parallel to the house, it's about
the only choice w/o re-orienting them.

The structural effect isn't a problem; question is whether you're more
interested in satisfying the client or pinching a few $$...

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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. This was setup as they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. This is the way I usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way? The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


My deck has the boards perpendicular to the house. On my previos house, they
were parallel to the house wall. Eithewr works. The size of the deck and size of
available boards can affect the decision.


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Hoosker wrote:

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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. This was setup as they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. This is the way I usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way? The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


My first thought upon reading this was:

How did you get to this point in the project without the homeowner's
buy-in on which way the boards would run?

You said "we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house". Who's "we"?

Wasn't the guy that will be signing the check involved when the project
was spec'd?


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On Oct 27, 8:33*am, (Hoosker)
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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. *This was setup as they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. *This is the way I usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? *We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way? *The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.

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Is there any reason you cant do it the way you want, sure it will
probably be butt crack ugly and HO says no, do you get it mr hack. You
want it to flow to to pool area, you mean waters flow? You cant turn
back now you say, your loss might be larger than a few boards, it
would be if it was my house.
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hoosker had written this in response to
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We just went ahead and designed the deck. The Homeowner assumed one
thing, we assummed another and did it the best and most cost effective way
in design, the homeowner never questioned it until this weekend, then he
was like, "Ahh, I thought the boards were going to go the other way".

The only options we see now, are possibly angling the boards as we're too
far along to start completely over again!

What a mess, any ideas?

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DerbyDad03 wrote:

Hoosker wrote:

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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the
house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. This was setup as
they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards
the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling
single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all
decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. This is the way I
usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it?
We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn
back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way?
The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords
instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


My first thought upon reading this was:


How did you get to this point in the project without the homeowner's
buy-in on which way the boards would run?


You said "we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house".
Who's "we"?


Wasn't the guy that will be signing the check involved when the project


was spec'd?






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hoosker had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...OK-338726-.htm
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We just went ahead and designed the deck. The Homeowner assumed one
thing, we assummed another and did it the best and most cost effective way
in design, the homeowner never questioned it until this weekend, then he
was like, "Ahh, I thought the boards were going to go the other way".

The only options we see now, are possibly angling the boards as we're too
far along to start completely over again!

What a mess, any ideas?


Did the homeowner specify? The boards are generally run in the longest
dimension as it just looks better that way.

Reversing the pattern would take a lot of work and probably putting a lot of
nailers between the joists every 16 or 24" OC.


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On Oct 28, 4:38*pm, (hoosker)
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We just went ahead and designed the deck. *The Homeowner assumed one
thing, we assummed another and did it the best and most cost effective way
in design, the homeowner never questioned it until this weekend, then he
was like, "Ahh, I thought the boards were going to go the other way".

The only options we see now, are possibly angling the boards as we're too
far along to start completely over again!

What a mess, any ideas?

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DerbyDad03 wrote:
Hoosker wrote:


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We are doing a deck and we spec'ed the boards to run out from the
house,
rather than perpendicular like a regular deck. *This was setup as
they
have a pool in the backyard and we wanted to deck to flow towards
the
water area, and we would us less finish surface baords, utiling
single 16'
runs.
The Homeowner is not sure he wants them this way, claiming all
decks he
has seen usually run parellel to the house. *This is the way I
usually see
them done as well.
Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it?
We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn
back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way?
The
deck is very well supported, in fact, we used 10" bords
instead of the
normal 8" boards for support.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


My first thought upon reading this was:
How did you get to this point in the project without the homeowner's
buy-in on which way the boards would run?
You said "we spec'ed the boards to run out from the house".
Who's "we"?
Wasn't the guy that will be signing the check involved when the project
was spec'd?


Homeowner assumed one thing, we assummed another

You know what happens when you 'assume'?

(we) did it the best and most cost effective way in design

It may have been the most cost effective way, but it wasn't the best
unless you and the homeowner agreed to the design before the work
started.

the homeowner never questioned it until this weekend

Do you mean he never questioned it until the first time he saw the
"design" i.e. the framing? I'd still say that's your fault.

What a mess, any ideas?

Negotiate with the client. Either offer to do the deck, as is, for
free or figure out how to reframe it, at the original cost, to satisfy
the client.

Reminds of the motto we assigned to IT repair guys where I used to
work. "They do it nice 'cuz they do it twice."
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On Oct 27, 9:33*am, (Hoosker)
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Is there any reason why we can't do it the way we are doing it? *We are
already to the surface decking part of the deck and can't turn back now,
but we want to reassure the homeowner it is ok to do it this way?


It's OK, if you do it right, but kinda kooky rationale.

Is the runoff water supposed to make it all the way to the pool?

Will it rain more in the deck area because there's a deck there?

Do those people tote enough water to the deck for the runoff to be a
potential problem?

Any thoughts are appreciated.


I've seen GFCs galore, but I've never seen a deck so constructed.

I think money was the likely basis for the decision, and I'm pretty
sure it's going to look weird, especially through a door or window.
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