I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

Sounds like there will be a gap if not fixed.


wrote in message
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

On Aug 28, 6:41*pm, wrote:
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

Vertical tolerance for a block wall is about 1/2" or so over the
height.....slightly less than .5 deg

I'd think something similar should apply to fences

An inch & a half is a little much....... about 3x too much.
If I was doing the work & I noticed it or had it pointed out to
me...I'd replace the post.

Talk to the foreman, GC or owner...who ever is your contact or the guy
who's responsible.
They can pull it & replace with quick dry setting mix to avoid a
construction delay.

Can you live with it or is it going to bother you? The fact that the
rest are good proves they can do it easily....they just missed one.


cheers
Bob

wrote in message
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the direction
the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which is
wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. Any fence builder who deserves to
be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the post
after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...


wrote in message
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. Any fence builder who deserves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

I would tend to agree with Colby. Besides, even the best post, over time,
can twist or warp a bit. It's the nature of wood. What appears to be
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar fence
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. Can you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? How much fencing are you having done? Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

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On Aug 29, 6:21*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...







wrote in message
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. *Any fence builder who deserves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

I would tend to agree with Colby. *Besides, even the best post, over time,
can twist or warp a bit. *It's the nature of wood. *What appears to be
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar fence
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. *Can you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? *Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? *How much fencing are you having done? *Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

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That's a lot O' fence, Mr. Boatwright! I'm only doing 100'. Couldn't
tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the job as a
whole. I had several estimates, and they were all very similar, which
is exactly what I was told would happen. Aside from collusion, that
means they have it down to a science, basically. With the prices being
essentially equal (these are all reputable companies), I looked at
service and other factors. I thought the prices were fair. Also,
***important***, I went and looked at some of their recent work. You
will likely notice a difference in workmanship.

Good luck!!

John

On Fri 29 Aug 2008 08:43:54p, told us...

On Aug 29, 6:21*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...







wrote in message
news:c7fca8c4-045b-43a3-984e-
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure
whic
h
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. *Any fence builder who deser
ves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice
the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

I would tend to agree with Colby. *Besides, even the best post, over ti
me,
can twist or warp a bit. *It's the nature of wood. *What appears to b
e
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar
fenc
e
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. *Can
you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? *Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? *How much fencing are you having done? *
Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

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That's a lot O' fence, Mr. Boatwright! I'm only doing 100'. Couldn't
tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the job as a
whole. I had several estimates, and they were all very similar, which
is exactly what I was told would happen. Aside from collusion, that
means they have it down to a science, basically. With the prices being
essentially equal (these are all reputable companies), I looked at
service and other factors. I thought the prices were fair. Also,
***important***, I went and looked at some of their recent work. You
will likely notice a difference in workmanship.

Good luck!!

John


Yes, it does seem like a lot of fence, but our overall lot size is 80' wide
by 110' deep. We're fencing from the front of the house to the back of the
lot and across the back, with 1 front gate to the side of the house and 1
gate to the easement/alley way behind our property. Anything less would
not give us the privacy we want. I plan on getting at least 3 estimates
and, depending on how each company sounds, will definitely go to see some
of their recent work. I expect no matter who we use it will be more
expensive than I hoped for, but it's something we really need.

Thanks, John!

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On Aug 29, 11:43*pm, wrote:
On Aug 29, 6:21*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:





On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...

wrote in message
....
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. *Any fence builder who deserves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

I would tend to agree with Colby. *Besides, even the best post, over time,
can twist or warp a bit. *It's the nature of wood. *What appears to be
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar fence
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. *Can you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? *Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? *How much fencing are you having done? *Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

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* * * * * * *the earth sucks.' * * * * * *
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That's a lot O' fence, Mr. Boatwright! I'm only doing 100'. Couldn't
tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the job as a
whole. I had several estimates, and they were all very similar, which
is exactly what I was told would happen. Aside from collusion, that
means they have it down to a science, basically. With the prices being
essentially equal (these are all reputable companies), I looked at
service and other factors. I thought the prices were fair. Also,
***important***, I went and looked at some of their recent work. You
will likely notice a difference in workmanship.

Good luck!!

John- Hide quoted text -

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Couldn't tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the
job as a whole

Wouldn't the "total cost of the job as a whole" divided by the "lineal
footage" be pretty close to the "lineal foot cost"?

In your case (100') just move the decimal point over 2 places and
you'll have the "lineal foot cost".

On Aug 30, 10:31*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Aug 29, 11:43*pm, wrote:





On Aug 29, 6:21*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...

wrote in message
...
I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. *Any fence builder who deserves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt

I would tend to agree with Colby. *Besides, even the best post, over time,
can twist or warp a bit. *It's the nature of wood. *What appears to be
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar fence
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. *Can you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? *Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? *How much fencing are you having done? *Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

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* * * * * * *the earth sucks.' * * * * * *
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That's a lot O' fence, Mr. Boatwright! I'm only doing 100'. Couldn't
tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the job as a
whole. I had several estimates, and they were all very similar, which
is exactly what I was told would happen. Aside from collusion, that
means they have it down to a science, basically. With the prices being
essentially equal (these are all reputable companies), I looked at
service and other factors. I thought the prices were fair. Also,
***important***, I went and looked at some of their recent work. You
will likely notice a difference in workmanship.

Good luck!!

John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Couldn't tell you a lineal foot cost - they basically just bid the
job as a whole

Wouldn't the "total cost of the job as a whole" divided by the "lineal
footage" be pretty close to the "lineal foot cost"?

In your case (100') just move the decimal point over 2 places and
you'll have the "lineal foot cost".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd say a post off by 1 1/2 inches from vertical is too much. Any
decent contractor would correct it. I'd find out with a level exacly
how far off it is and then have a discussion with them before they go
further.

on 8/29/2008 7:21 PM Wayne Boatwright said the following:
On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...


wrote in message
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I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure which
is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. Any fence builder who deserves
to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never notice the
post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt


I would tend to agree with Colby. Besides, even the best post, over time,
can twist or warp a bit. It's the nature of wood. What appears to be
perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar fence
installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet. Can you
give me any clue as to what prices are involved? Did they quote you by
lineal foot or by total job? How much fencing are you having done? Ours
will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA



What style of cedar fence? Single sided or double sided? Plain, Dog ear,
Decorative, or Lattice top? Rough sawn or smooth?
All make a difference in material cost, besides the install price.

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In Hamptonburgh, NY
in the original Orange County
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

"willshak" wrote

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar
fence installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes yet.
Can you give me any clue as to what prices are involved? Did they quote
you by lineal foot or by total job? How much fencing are you having
done? Ours will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two gates.

TIA

What style of cedar fence? Single sided or double sided? Plain, Dog ear,
Decorative, or Lattice top? Rough sawn or smooth?
All make a difference in material cost, besides the install price.

Agreed. And specs for us with a 300ft and 2 gates came at 3200$ for dog ear
standard fencing.

On Sat 30 Aug 2008 08:16:40a, willshak told us...

on 8/29/2008 7:21 PM Wayne Boatwright said the following:
On Fri 29 Aug 2008 03:41:29p, Colbyt told us...


wrote in message
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.

I'm having a cedar 6' fence installed by a local, reputable company,
and I have a question. The posts have been installed, and the workers
did a wonderful job, especially with the concrete - crowned nicely,
etc. They placed the posts exactly where we had agreed upon.

The quibble I have is one post is about 1.5 inches off plumb toward
the neighbor post (not in and out as you face the fence, but side to
side). It looks like one just got away from them. My question is -
what is the acceptable tolerance level of post variances? Is this
within the bounds of normal? Should it be redone?

Advice appreciated!

John

If I understood your post, it appears to be out of plumb in the
direction the fence boards will follow. IE: left or right as you face
the fence.

Now I have to ask if you placed a level on it to find out for sure
which is wrong. Yours or the neighbors.

Then I would tell you it is no big deal. Any fence builder who
deserves to be called one will fill the gap nicely and you will never
notice the post after the stringers and the boards go up.

Colbyt


I would tend to agree with Colby. Besides, even the best post, over
time, can twist or warp a bit. It's the nature of wood. What appears
to be perfect today may not be in a year or five.

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar
fence installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes
yet. Can you give me any clue as to what prices are involved? Did
they quote you by lineal foot or by total job? How much fencing are
you having done? Ours will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two
gates.

TIA



What style of cedar fence? Single sided or double sided? Plain, Dog ear,
Decorative, or Lattice top? Rough sawn or smooth?
All make a difference in material cost, besides the install price.


Single sided, dog ear, no lattice top, and either rough or smooth would do.

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On Sat 30 Aug 2008 08:26:29a, cshenk told us...

"willshak" wrote

I do have a personal question, as we are planning to have a 6' cedar
fence installed around our back yard, but haven't gotten any quotes
yet. Can you give me any clue as to what prices are involved? Did
they quote you by lineal foot or by total job? How much fencing are
you having done? Ours will be approximately 360 lineal feet with two
gates.

TIA

What style of cedar fence? Single sided or double sided? Plain, Dog
ear, Decorative, or Lattice top? Rough sawn or smooth?
All make a difference in material cost, besides the install price.

Agreed. And specs for us with a 300ft and 2 gates came at 3200$ for dog
ear standard fencing.

Thanks, Carol. That's the type of information I wanted. What area do you
live in? That might vary the cost.

TIA

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