I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn on
and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction box,
so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either the
light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put the
light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and I need
a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light fixtures?
or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to take a look
myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it or
it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool) it
will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:25:01 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
wrote:

I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn on
and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction box,
so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either the
light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put the
light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and I need
a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light fixtures?
or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to take a look
myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it or
it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool) it
will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

Why not just buy a lamp and try it?

An electrician should have been able to tell you if the lamp was good.
It is a simple test with an ohm meter.

MiamiCuse wrote:

I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn on
and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction box,
so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either the
light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put the
light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and I need
a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light fixtures?
or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to take a look
myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it or
it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool) it
will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

As far as I know, those lights are sealed units that install in a recess
in the pool and have a flexible cord connection long enough to allow the
fixture to be removed and placed up on the pool deck for service.
Basically you just hop in the pool with a screwdriver, unscrew the three
or four screws that hold the fixture in the recess and pull the fixture
out and rest it on the deck. You then can work on it on the deck to open
it, replace the lamp and reseal the unit (might need some RTV gasket
maker). To reinstall you just coil the wire back into the recess behind
the fixture and screw it back in place.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
on and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction
box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either
the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put
the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and
I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
take a look myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool)
it will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool. If
you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for the
fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If the
fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and reseal the
fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the entire
fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy at
whatever length you need to reach the deck box.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:51:54 -0400, "RBM" wrote:


Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool. If
you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for the
fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If the

You can tell that some people are a lot smarter than I am. I would
have just used regular fixtures and expected the repairmen to use
scuba equipment.

fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and reseal the
fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the entire
fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy at
whatever length you need to reach the deck box.

"RBM" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
on and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and
he opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the
junction box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either
the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they
put the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture,
and I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
take a look myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon
pool) it will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool.
If you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for
the fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If
the fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and
reseal the fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the
entire fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy
at whatever length you need to reach the deck box.



From the box to the pool light I would estimate about twenty feet...I think
this is pretty far I don't know why they located it so far away. In any
case the box is about 12" above the deck, a 1" PVC conduit attached to it's
base and the PVC conduit disappeared into the deck and eventually to the
pool light.

When the electrician was looking at the box, we took apart the plastic box
cover, and the 90 degree PVC elbow below it was loose, I tried to tighten it
but instead loosened it, and this is really strange, water seeped out of it.
I managed to tighten it back up, but the PVC conduit 18' away was partly
filled with water. I think the water level is the same as the pool surface.
I think this is not normal right? I would assume if this is line voltage
and the conduit is filled with water, then it's wet from there all the way
to the fixture? Something about this makes me real nervous...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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"RBM" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
on and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and
he opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the
junction box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my
case, the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said
either the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when
they put the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light
fixture, and I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine
it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
take a look myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon
pool) it will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool.
If you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche,
for the fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair.
If the fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and
reseal the fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace
the entire fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can
buy at whatever length you need to reach the deck box.



From the box to the pool light I would estimate about twenty feet...I
think this is pretty far I don't know why they located it so far away. In
any case the box is about 12" above the deck, a 1" PVC conduit attached to
it's base and the PVC conduit disappeared into the deck and eventually to
the pool light.

When the electrician was looking at the box, we took apart the plastic box
cover, and the 90 degree PVC elbow below it was loose, I tried to tighten
it but instead loosened it, and this is really strange, water seeped out
of it. I managed to tighten it back up, but the PVC conduit 18' away was
partly filled with water. I think the water level is the same as the pool
surface. I think this is not normal right? I would assume if this is line
voltage and the conduit is filled with water, then it's wet from there all
the way to the fixture? Something about this makes me real nervous...
As gfretwell said, that's exactly how it was intended to work. The part in
the pool is completely sealed and water flows all around it, and into the
pipe feeding it. Don't loose any sleep. These things are fine and safe, but
do be sure there is GFCI protection on that circuit, which wasn't always
required. The biggest problem is that with GFCI protection, the seal on the
fixture has to be perfect, or it will trip. Here in NY, pool service
companies routinely attempt to change the lamp only and not the entire
fixture, and rarely get them sealed well enough to prevent the GFCI from
tripping.

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:07:00 -0400, "RBM" wrote:

Here in NY, pool service
companies routinely attempt to change the lamp only and not the entire
fixture, and rarely get them sealed well enough to prevent the GFCI from
tripping.

That is why they recommend replacing the gasket

I've never watched what they do. I suppose they are trying to use the old
gasket. All I can say for sure, is that they never get them sealed

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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"RBM" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
on and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and
he opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the
junction box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my
case, the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said
either the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when
they put the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light
fixture, and I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine
it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
take a look myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon
pool) it will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC

Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool.
If you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche,
for the fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair.
If the fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and
reseal the fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace
the entire fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can
buy at whatever length you need to reach the deck box.



From the box to the pool light I would estimate about twenty feet...I
think this is pretty far I don't know why they located it so far away. In
any case the box is about 12" above the deck, a 1" PVC conduit attached to
it's base and the PVC conduit disappeared into the deck and eventually to
the pool light.

When the electrician was looking at the box, we took apart the plastic box
cover, and the 90 degree PVC elbow below it was loose, I tried to tighten
it but instead loosened it, and this is really strange, water seeped out
of it. I managed to tighten it back up, but the PVC conduit 18' away was
partly filled with water. I think the water level is the same as the pool
surface. I think this is not normal right? I would assume if this is line
voltage and the conduit is filled with water, then it's wet from there all
the way to the fixture? Something about this makes me real nervous...
That is good advice that's how I did mine, But I might add it's a good idea
to replace the gasket that seals the fixture while you have it out.

MiamiCuse wrote:
I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn on
and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction box,
so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either the
light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put the
light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and I need
a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light fixtures?
or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to take a look
myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it or
it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool) it
will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC


If you don't want to drain the pool, you need an electrician who
specializes in pool work. He is going to have to remove the fixture
underwater, bring it to the beach on the long cord it presumably will
have, replace the lamp, and re-install it underwater. This can be
dangerous, particularly if the fixture turns out to be broken and
leaking. Don't let the pool guy do it unless he is also a licensed and
insured electrician. On the other hand, if the pool is drained, it only
requires a ladder.
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Tony wrote:

MiamiCuse wrote:
I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
on and one of them went off recently.

I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and
he opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the
junction box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.

He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either
the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they
put the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture,
and I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.

Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
take a look myself?

My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon
pool) it will not crack right?

Thanks,

MC


If you don't want to drain the pool, you need an electrician who
specializes in pool work. He is going to have to remove the fixture
underwater, bring it to the beach on the long cord it presumably will
have, replace the lamp, and re-install it underwater. This can be
dangerous, particularly if the fixture turns out to be broken and
leaking. Don't let the pool guy do it unless he is also a licensed and
insured electrician. On the other hand, if the pool is drained, it only
requires a ladder.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


There should be a raised box above water line and usually above the decking
of the pool somewhere near the pool where the splice is for the pool light.
Turn the circuit off and disconnect at this box. The line to the light
should be in a conduit and pretty long to get to this box. Before pulling
out the light tie a pull line to the wire in the box and make sure the line
comes through at the light side. Get a new light and pull in the wire with
the pull line. Connect wires and test.
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Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool. If
you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for the
fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If the
fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and reseal the
fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the entire
fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy at
whatever length you need to reach the deck box.

I have a somewhat similar problem. I am getting NO power getting to the box sticking up on my pool deck. The line runs under my deck and I would have to tear
it up to replace it. Do they make a low voltage light or something I
could use to avoid digging up through my deck? I hate to give up my
pool light.

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Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool.
If
you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for
the
fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If the
fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and reseal
the
fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the entire
fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy at
whatever length you need to reach the deck box.

I have a somewhat similar problem. I am getting NO power getting to the
box sticking up on my pool deck. The line runs under my deck and I would
have to tear
it up to replace it. Do they make a low voltage light or something I
could use to avoid digging up through my deck? I hate to give up my
pool light.


can't u fish a pull line through?