My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...


Curtis K.
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On Jul 7, 11:04*am, (kupplerc)
wrote:
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. *We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. *We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. *Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. *The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...

Curtis K.
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Your plumber installed a possibly non-code compliant drain. If he is
an unlicensed handyman and refuses to deal with it, bite the bullet
and have it redone by someone with better trade skills. If he works
for a plumbing firm, some pressure to do it correctly could be applied
via your city building inspection department. The symptom you describe
is typical of drain venting problems. Good luck.

Joe

On 07 Jul 2008 16:04:56 GMT,
(kupplerc) wrote:

My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...


Curtis K.
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Check for proper venting, pipe slope and pipe size. A drain should
not back up. I'd ask another plumber.

kupplerc wrote:
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on
the first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought
at Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some
of the water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who
put it in states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should
not be coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the
floor and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...



Hmm.

Obviously the washer is sending water to the drain faster than the drain can
process it. Several possibilities for the symptom come to mind:

1. The drain pipe is too small.
2. The drain is clogged.
3. The vent stack is blocked.
4. The washer has one humongous pump.

If nothing else works, you could find some way of restricting the drain hose
from the washer - clamp, crimp, valve... - to reduce the flow rate.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

We send rockets out of this solar system.

WE do?

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:


"kupplerc" wrote in message
. com...
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be

I didnt think that in itself was sufficient. I presume the pan has
a trap between it and the main sewer, but of course the trap is there
to prevent sewer gas from coming into your house.

You're in a simlar position to having a sink and a shower next to each
other. AIUI, sometimes a draining sink will back up into a shower,
but it doesn't happen if the drain pipe below the junction is clear
and the air vent up through the roof is clear.

Curtis K.

When I did mine, I put a drain in the pan, which I made. Figured if I ever
got it full of water it would be an easy way to get rid of water.

We send rockets out of this solar system. I think there is something a

I didn't notice this, but I guess Oren means that we only send
satellites much beyond the earth.

competent person "can do about it." You may want to make some phone calls.
First to give the plumber the chance to fix it, next to the inspector or
contractor's board of your state if he doesn't. If the man can't properly
plumb up a drain for a washing machine, something's wrong.

But you need to hire the National Air and Drain Administration.

Just my opinion.

Steve

"kupplerc" wrote in message
om...
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...


Curtis K.

When I did mine, I put a drain in the pan, which I made. Figured if I ever
got it full of water it would be an easy way to get rid of water.

We send rockets out of this solar system. I think there is something a
competent person "can do about it." You may want to make some phone calls.
First to give the plumber the chance to fix it, next to the inspector or
contractor's board of your state if he doesn't. If the man can't properly
plumb up a drain for a washing machine, something's wrong.

Just my opinion.

Steve

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

We send rockets out of this solar system.

WE do?

http://www.matessa.org/~mike/voy_pio.html

"kupplerc" wrote in message
om...
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...

Is there a laundry tub, or just a drain pipe? If just a pipe, is it 2" or larger
in diameter? 1 1/2" pipe is not big enough for a washer drain pipe unless there
is a tub to absorb the extra, as I understand it.

"kupplerc" wrote in message
om...
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...


Is it possible that the pipe is partially clogged? Maybe you should try
snaking it out to see if that helps.

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

We send rockets out of this solar system.

WE do?

You need to get out more.


I think he means that no one in this ng sends any rockets out of this
universe. I personally have only sent rockets on to the roof of my house,
into the street or into my neighbor's yard. All within our universe.

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

We send rockets out of this solar system.

WE do?

You need to get out more.

The Voyager 1 spacecraft is a 722-kilogram robotic space probe of the outer
solar system and beyond, launched September 5, 1977, and currently
operational. It visited Jupiter and Saturn and was the first probe to
provide detailed images of the moons of these planets.

Voyager 1 is the farthest manmade object from Earth, traveling away from
both the Earth and the Sun at a relatively faster speed than any other
probe.[1] Though its sister-craft, Voyager 2, was launched one month
earlier, Voyager 2 will never pass Voyager 1. Neither will the New Horizons
mission to Pluto, despite being launched from Earth at a faster speed than
both Voyager craft, since during its flight Voyager 1 benefited from a
number of gravity assisted speed boosts.[2]

As of May 9, 2008, Voyager 1 is over 15.89 terameters (15.89×1012 meters, or
15.89×109 km, 106.26 AU, 14.72 light-hours, or 9.87 billion miles) from the
Sun, and has thus entered the heliosheath, the termination shock region
between the solar system and interstellar space, a vast area where the Sun's
influence gives way to the other bodies in the galaxy. If Voyager 1 is still
functioning when it finally passes the heliopause, scientists will get their
first direct measurements of the conditions in the interstellar medium. At
this distance, signals from Voyager 1 take more than fourteen hours to reach
its control center at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a joint project of NASA
and Caltech in La Cañada, California. Voyager 1 is on a hyperbolic
trajectory and has achieved escape velocity, meaning that its orbit will not
return to the inner solar system. Along with Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager
2, and New Horizons, Voyager 1 is an interstellar probe.

Voyager 1 had as its primary targets the planets Jupiter and Saturn and
their associated moons and rings; its current mission is the detection of
the heliopause and particle measurements of solar wind and the interstellar
medium. Both Voyager probes have far outlasted their originally intended
lifespan. Each is powered by three radioisotope thermoelectric generators,
which are now expected to continue to generate enough power to let the
probes keep communicating with Earth until at least the year 2025.

"jthread" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

We send rockets out of this solar system.

WE do?

You need to get out more.


I think he means that no one in this ng sends any rockets out of this
universe. I personally have only sent rockets on to the roof of my house,
into the street or into my neighbor's yard. All within our universe.

Along that line, then, I believe that fixing a washing machine drain should
not be an insurmountable problem. Especially when a licensed professional
(was that the case) did the work and now has the story "It won't work"?

Oren, do you have anything to say relating to the problem? I'd be
interested in hearing that from you.

Steve

On Jul 7, 5:33*pm, mm wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:



"kupplerc" wrote in message
. com...
My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. *We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. *We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. *Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. *The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be

I didnt think that in itself was sufficient. * *I presume the pan has
a trap between it and the main sewer, but of course the trap is there
to prevent sewer gas from coming into your house. *

You're in a simlar position to having a sink and a shower next to each
other. * AIUI, sometimes a draining sink will back up into a shower,
but it doesn't happen if the drain pipe below the junction is clear
and the air vent up through the roof is clear.

Curtis K.

When I did mine, I put a drain in the pan, which I made. *Figured if I ever
got it full of water it would be an easy way to get rid of water.

We send rockets out of this solar system. *I think there is something a

I didn't notice this, but I guess Oren means that we only send
satellites much beyond the earth.

competent person "can do about it." * You may want to make some phone calls.
First to give the plumber the chance to fix it, next to the inspector or
contractor's board of your state if he doesn't. *If the man can't properly
plumb up a drain for a washing machine, something's wrong.

But you need to hire the National Air and Drain Administration.

Just my opinion.

Steve

the pan on mine drains to an open line outside the house. Plumber said
it couldn't tie into main drain as the trap would dry out and allow
sewer gas into house. Does everyone else's tie into the main drain?

wrote:
On Jul 7, 5:33 pm, mm wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:




"kupplerc" wrote in message
s.com...

My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be

I didnt think that in itself was sufficient. I presume the pan has
a trap between it and the main sewer, but of course the trap is there
to prevent sewer gas from coming into your house.

SNIP

the pan on mine drains to an open line outside the house. Plumber said
it couldn't tie into main drain as the trap would dry out and allow
sewer gas into house. Does everyone else's tie into the main drain?


You have it correct.

The pans are not approved as a "fixture" and are not intended
to be connected to the sewer, with or without trap.

The pan can drain via an "indirect waste" into a sink below
or even to a floor drain. The drain tube should have a gap
between the sink or floor drain.

Or, as in your case, the tube can drain to "daylight",
meaning outside.

Jim

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:46:51 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

Oren, do you have anything to say relating to the problem? I'd be
interested in hearing that from you.

Not a plumber, but I would determine if the the drain has the proper
"pitch" @ 1/4 inch per foot.

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:51:39 -0400, Speedy Jim
wrote:

wrote:
On Jul 7, 5:33 pm, mm wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:44:55 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:




"kupplerc" wrote in message
ws.com...

My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not be

I didnt think that in itself was sufficient. I presume the pan has
a trap between it and the main sewer, but of course the trap is there
to prevent sewer gas from coming into your house.

SNIP

the pan on mine drains to an open line outside the house. Plumber said
it couldn't tie into main drain as the trap would dry out and allow
sewer gas into house. Does everyone else's tie into the main drain?


You have it correct.

The pans are not approved as a "fixture" and are not intended
to be connected to the sewer, with or without trap.

Well, that's not the way they did the OP's house. I don't know what I
would do in his shoes.

The pan can drain via an "indirect waste" into a sink below
or even to a floor drain. The drain tube should have a gap
between the sink or floor drain.

Or, as in your case, the tube can drain to "daylight",
meaning outside.

Jim

kupplerc had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...ay-317549-.htm
:
Thanks to all the replies and good information.

I will check everything out and see what can be done.


Curtis K.
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kupplerc wrote:


My wife and I did some remodeling and created a new laundry room on the
first floor. We decieded to have a washing machine tray (bought at
Lowe's) put in.

The washer sits in the tray just fine; however, whenever we run the
washer, we noticed water sitting in the tray afterwards. We had the
washer checked out, and the repair man stated that water was coming up
from the drain. Basically, when the washer empties the water, some of
the
water backs up into the tray from the drain. The plumber who put it in
states that there is nothing he can do about it.

Supposedly he put in an offset 'y' connector, and the water should not
be
coming back up.

Is there an easy fix to this problem, or do we need to cut up the floor
and have the plumbing re-done??

Any information would be helpful...


Curtis K.
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