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I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker
storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? |
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wrote in message ... I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Sublimation. Evaporation from the dryer air around it. Happens to snow also. |
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http://www.wonderquest.com/ice-sublime.htm s wrote in message ... I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? |
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On Mar 18, 4:20*am, wrote:
I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Same reason water evaporates in an environment that appears to stay the same. Solids can evaporate into gas. Dry ice is famous for doing that. PD |
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"PD" wrote in message
... On Mar 18, 4:20 am, wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Same reason water evaporates in an environment that appears to stay the same. Solids can evaporate into gas. Dry ice is famous for doing that. PD ============== "Famous" is right! I saw some dry ice on Letterman's show last year. |
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S. wrote on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:12:23 -0500:
SB http://www.wonderquest.com/ice-sublime.htm SB sublimation SB wrote in message SB ... ?? I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ?? ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube ?? got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there ?? for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost ?? nothing. ?? ?? What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment ?? that appears to stay the same? As many people have said the cause is sublimation. Have you ever examined the ice-cube tray after a vacation? It will probably be quite apparent that the cubes are smaller than when you went away. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Mar 18, 5:20*am, wrote:
I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Ice Mites - Small, almost invisible creatures with constant teething problems. By eating the stray ice cubes that end up outside of the storage bin, they keep their gums numb. It's a survival instinct - if they didn't numb their gums, there would be this constant moaning from your freezer, resulting in detection and probable elimination. In desparate cases, when the ice cubes are removed by the human on a regular basis (resulting in few, if any, strays) the mites have been known to use their ice grabbing tenticles to create a small hole in freezer bags, allowing in just enough moisture for frost to form on the stored object. This gives them another source of ice to numb their gums. |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
... On Mar 18, 5:20 am, wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Ice Mites - Small, almost invisible creatures with constant teething problems. By eating the stray ice cubes that end up outside of the storage bin, they keep their gums numb. It's a survival instinct - if they didn't numb their gums, there would be this constant moaning from your freezer, resulting in detection and probable elimination. In desparate cases, when the ice cubes are removed by the human on a regular basis (resulting in few, if any, strays) the mites have been known to use their ice grabbing tenticles to create a small hole in freezer bags, allowing in just enough moisture for frost to form on the stored object. This gives them another source of ice to numb their gums. =================== They don't want us to know about this mite issue. They. You know who they are. Them. The same "they" who own the patent for an engine that develops 400 horsepower and gets 85 mpg. |
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On Mar 18, 5:47*am, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote in message Sublimation. Evaporation from the dryer air around it. Happens to snow also. The same process keeps your freezer "frost free". |
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"James Silverton" wrote As many people have said the cause is sublimation. Have you ever examined the ice-cube tray after a vacation? It will probably be quite apparent that the cubes are smaller than when you went away. My inlaws didn't use ice cubes. Before going over there for whatever occasion, I'd remind them to refill the trays. It would be very disappointing to go for dinner and find tiny little dehydrated cubes. nancy |
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On Mar 18, 9:49*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
In desparate cases, when the ice cubes are removed by the human on a regular basis (resulting in few, if any, strays) the mites have been known to use their ice grabbing tenticles to create a small hole in freezer bags, allowing in just enough moisture for frost to form on the stored object. This gives them another source of ice to numb their gums. On this note, it's been observed that if you want to freeze meat or fish or shrimp and have it be just as good months later, a good technique is to put the food in a ziplock bag and then fill the bag full of water before zipping the bag shut. Freezer burn is due to sublimation of the water in the food, and by the method just described, the added water does the sublimating rather than the food. I tried this trick with same-day shrimp acquired in South Carolina in June, and I thawed the last 2-lb bag for dinner in January, and it tasted just like the shrimp cooked the first day. PD |
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On Mar 18, 11:55*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Other's have addressed your concern, but since you brought up ice cubes, maybe I can hijack the thread for a moment and invite speculation on an odd experience I had many years ago. In a standard plastic ice cube tray in my freezer, one of the cubes grew a vertical icicle. Probably 1/2" to 3/4" long, and perfectly icicle shaped, i.e., a long, narrow, pointed shape, roughly symmetrical but with typical irregularities. I did keep it, but sublimation apparently ate it up after about a week. Never seen it happen again, and never heard of it happening to anyone else. http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s.../icespikes.htm |
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What's an 'ice cube tray' ? G
s "James Silverton" wrote in message news:L4QDj.12753$hP3.1528@trnddc02... As many people have said the cause is sublimation. Have you ever examined the ice-cube tray after a vacation? It will probably be quite apparent that the cubes are smaller than when you went away. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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, Smitty Two wrote: In article , wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Other's have addressed your concern, but since you brought up ice cubes, maybe I can hijack the thread for a moment and invite speculation on an odd experience I had many years ago. In a standard plastic ice cube tray in my freezer, one of the cubes grew a vertical icicle. Probably 1/2" to 3/4" long, and perfectly icicle shaped, i.e., a long, narrow, pointed shape, roughly symmetrical but with typical irregularities. I did keep it, but sublimation apparently ate it up after about a week. Never seen it happen again, and never heard of it happening to anyone else. ***{The same question was raised last year at about this time. That post, including my response, is copied below. --MJ}*** In article .com, "Paul Cardinale" wrote: On Mar 19, 4:11 pm, Dan wrote: My brother was making ice cubes in my fridge for 1792 (Whiskey). One cube grew an upward rod that ended in a point, about an inch high. My brother likes to see things like this as signs that our dead dog is sending a signal, but I told him it probably has something to do with impurities in the water. Can someone explain this? Dan Yes. The explanation as to why your brother sees things that way is: he is a woo-woo. ***{I've seen those spikes myself. They rise up out of the centers of ice cubes. The likely reason is that the cube freezes from the outside in. That means there is a reservoir of liquid in the center of the cube as the outside freezes. Since water expands as it freezes, the liquid in the center gets squeezed tighter and tighter, and eventually pushes out through the point of least resistance. That point is usually at the top of the cube in the center. Only in that way can the pressure be relieved. Naturally, as water oozes out, it freezes around the edges of the opening so formed. Result: a little volcano type of structure arises there. That's how the spikes are formed. --MJ}*** ************************************************** *************** If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility that you are in my killfile. --MJ |
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I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. Eco-terrorist. Each of your ice cubes obtained through the death of a Third World baby. The automatic ice maker storage got high Baggie your weed adn wrap in aluminum foil before freezing. and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Frost-free freezer. Look it up. Never store peroxydicarbonate free radical initiators in a certified chemical refigerator frost-free freezer - they explode. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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"James Silverton" wrote in message news:ipUDj.6595$%Y2.5887@trnddc08... S. wrote on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:20:09 -0500: SBWhat's an 'ice cube tray' ? G Huh! Are you implying that your fridge has a cube maker and people who use trays are old-fashioned? I made a conscious decision to get what I thought I needed. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Good for you. I can't imagine life without an ice maker, especially after having kids that never filled the trays. I'm willing to pay for modern conveniences. |
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wrote in message ... I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? It's slowly making its way to wherever it is orphan socks go. |
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On Mar 18, 6:21*pm, "jmcquown" wrote:
wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? You've gotten some good answers. *I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) *I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. *It just seemed a curious thing to me. And the answer is that because ice is less dense than water, the volume of the ice when it melts (into water) becomes exactly equal to the volume under the waterline of the icecubes. This is in fact the discovery that Archimedes made a few years back. PD |
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Had a home for sale with a ice maker that sat vacant for several
months, a idiot home inspector wrote up mal formed ice cubes from maker, because they had sublimiated away. true what was left of the cubes looked wierd. the deal fell thru buyer said your home has too many troubles. |
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On Mar 18, 7:30*pm, PD wrote:
On Mar 18, 6:21*pm, "jmcquown" wrote: wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? You've gotten some good answers. *I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) *I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. *It just seemed a curious thing to me. And the answer is that because ice is less dense than water, the volume of the ice when it melts (into water) becomes exactly equal to the volume under the waterline of the icecubes. This is in fact the discovery that Archimedes made a few years back. PD I used to know a lot of facts about Archimedes but something seems to have displaced that knowledge. |
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jmcquown wrote:
You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. There is a similar question about a boat full of iron ore sinking in a canal lock. The water level does not change because floating objects displace water equivalent to their weight. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
I used to know a lot of facts about Archimedes but something seems to have displaced that knowledge. Do you suppose it's due to too many baths? gloria p |
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Dave Smith writes:
jmcquown wrote: You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. There is a similar question about a boat full of iron ore sinking in a canal lock. The water level does not change because floating objects displace water equivalent to their weight. True, but beyond that, most things expand as they melt. Ice is one of the few solids that is less dense in solid form than liquid form. And that's a good thing, otherwise, lakes and oceans would freeze from the bottom up. |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. Jill Most thing shrink when frozen. Water expands when it freezes and can exert a lot of pressure. Thusly, when ice melts the volume decreases. |
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James Silverton wrote: S. wrote on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:12:23 -0500: SB http://www.wonderquest.com/ice-sublime.htm SB sublimation SB wrote in message SB ... ?? I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ?? ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube ?? got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there ?? for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost ?? nothing. ?? ?? What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment ?? that appears to stay the same? As many people have said the cause is sublimation. Have you ever examined the ice-cube tray after a vacation? It will probably be quite apparent that the cubes are smaller than when you went away. Yea that's true Guess I haven't used ice trays for a while, I was thinking of making some juice or maybe root beer cubes when it gets warmer though. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Brawny wrote: On Mar 18, 5:47�am, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: wrote in message Sublimation. Evaporation from the dryer air around it. Happens to snow also. The same process keeps your freezer "frost free". Some of the apartments I lived in was opposite the case, you had to defrost about every three months Reminds me spring time is a good time to pull out and defurr the the fridge. |
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PD wrote: On Mar 18, 9:49�am, DerbyDad03 wrote: In desparate cases, when the ice cubes are removed by the human on a regular basis (resulting in few, if any, strays) the mites have been known to use their ice grabbing tenticles to create a small hole in freezer bags, allowing in just enough moisture for frost to form on the stored object. This gives them another source of ice to numb their gums. On this note, it's been observed that if you want to freeze meat or fish or shrimp and have it be just as good months later, a good technique is to put the food in a ziplock bag and then fill the bag full of water before zipping the bag shut. Freezer burn is due to sublimation of the water in the food, and by the method just described, the added water does the sublimating rather than the food. That's a good thing to think about. I tried this trick with same-day shrimp acquired in South Carolina in June, and I thawed the last 2-lb bag for dinner in January, and it tasted just like the shrimp cooked the first day. PD We get roadside roasted green chile every fall and there ends up being lots of great liquid. Twist the top making an ice seal by having wet hands when you twist it closed and a year later it still will have that great fresh roasted green chile flavor. |
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On Mar 18, 9:36*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message You've gotten some good answers. *I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) *I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. *It just seemed a curious thing to me. Jill Most thing shrink when frozen. Water expands when it freezes and can exert a lot of pressure. *Thusly, when ice melts the volume decreases. Most thing shrink when frozen Which is why I avoid nude beaches when the water's cold. |
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PD wrote: On Mar 18, 11:55�am, Smitty Two wrote: In article , wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Other's have addressed your concern, but since you brought up ice cubes, maybe I can hijack the thread for a moment and invite speculation on an odd experience I had many years ago. In a standard plastic ice cube tray in my freezer, one of the cubes grew a vertical icicle. Probably 1/2" to 3/4" long, and perfectly icicle shaped, i.e., a long, narrow, pointed shape, roughly symmetrical but with typical irregularities. I did keep it, but sublimation apparently ate it up after about a week. Never seen it happen again, and never heard of it happening to anyone else. http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s.../icespikes.htm Good to hear it's not biological, yikes |
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On Mar 18, 8:15*pm, Puester wrote:
- DerbyDad03 wrote: - - - I used to know a lot of facts about Archimedes but something seems to have displaced that knowledge. - Do you suppose it's due to too many baths? - - gloria p Or from getting crowned... |
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notbob wrote: On 2008-03-18, PD wrote: described, the added water does the sublimating rather than the food. I tried this trick with same-day shrimp acquired in South Carolina in June, and I thawed the last 2-lb bag for dinner in January, and it tasted just like the shrimp cooked the first day. I agree. Used to be able to buy 4lb of shrimp in blocks of ice. It would keep almost forever and taste nearly fresh upon melting. These newer packaging methods using flash freezing are already somewhat mummified right out of the market. Nowhere near the moisture and freshness. This also works for fish you catch yourself. Put in topless milk cartons full of water and freeze. The meat retains it's firmness and moisture. I never tried this with other than fish or seafood. I'm not sure it would work too well with herd animal flesh. Maybe. nb I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't very practical for me, Any ideas for freezing fish to last at least a month? |
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wrote in message I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't very practical for me, Any ideas for freezing fish to last at least a month? Vacuum sealer |
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jmcquown wrote: wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. Jill Very much good answers, it's nice to see people sharing their ideas and knowledge. As far as the ice water thing goes, I seem to remember some science show explain it some years back. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote: wrote in message I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't very practical for me, Any ideas for freezing fish to last at least a month? Vacuum sealer Cool, I will look into that. Very disappointing throwing fish or any food for that matter away. |
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