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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:37:45 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Had a home for sale with a ice maker that sat vacant for several months, a idiot home inspector wrote up mal formed ice cubes from maker, because they had sublimiated away. true what was left of the cubes looked wierd. the deal fell thru buyer said your home has too many troubles. Some refrigerators were made with a freon/thalidomide combination, and that causes malformed ice cubes. Early imports from China. |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:10:07 -0400, mm
wrote: They make some ice-cube trays that are bottles with caps. I tried one and it worked but the cubes were little balls, and too small. And this is why some people take the ice cubes out of the trays and put them in bags, so they don't disappear. |
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On Mar 18, 11:24*pm, mm wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:10:07 -0400, mm wrote: They make some ice-cube trays that are bottles with caps. *I tried one and it worked but the cubes were little balls, and too small. And this is why some people take the ice cubes out of the trays and put them in bags, so they don't disappear. Actually, I took them out of the trays and put them in bags so I would have more than 24 cubes available. |
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, PD wrote: On Mar 18, 11:55*am, Smitty Two wrote: In article , *monkey wrote: I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker storage got high and a single ice cube got placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while, but started getting smaller, now it is almost nothing. What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to stay the same? Other's have addressed your concern, but since you brought up ice cubes, maybe I can hijack the thread for a moment and invite speculation on an odd experience I had many years ago. In a standard plastic ice cube tray in my freezer, one of the cubes grew a vertical icicle. Probably 1/2" to 3/4" long, and perfectly icicle shaped, i.e., a long, narrow, pointed shape, roughly symmetrical but with typical irregularities. I did keep it, but sublimation apparently ate it up after about a week. Never seen it happen again, and never heard of it happening to anyone else. http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s.../icespikes.htm Thank you! |
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mm wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Edwin Pawlowski wrote: wrote in message I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't very practical for me, Any ideas for freezing fish to last at least a month? Vacuum sealer Cool, I will look into that. Very disappointing throwing fish or any food for that matter away. I know how you feel. I don't like to waste food or anything, but it's worse to waste meat and fish. They died so we could eat them. We should do so. We have a downstairs fridge and I put stuff it in there to thaw it out and occasionally, rarely but occasionally, I will have this feeling and go oh, and go downstairs and it's either complete relief or strong disappointment cause we often buy in bulk. I would rather just burn the money spent for it rather than throw the stuff away. I had one roommate whose father, he told me, worked at a state mental hospital. He would bring home a lot of spaghetti, butter, 64 oz. cans of corn, and several other things, all labeled Not for Sale. I think his father bartered them in return for working on private cars for the kitchen staff. It was bad enough that they, he and his girl friend, stole from the mental hospital, but worse that they let the food rot sometimes. One 64 oz. can of vegetables had about 8 oz. eaten and nothing more and after long enough, it rotted. When I get large cans of vegetables that's what were gonna have as aprt of a couple of dinners, nice big piles, (I love those canned mixed vegetables) Then it's on for a big pot of vegetable beef soup\stew. If anything is left over it's to the freezer. And it wasn't a prison, the residents weren't even criminals, and they still stole from them. If you are talking about the kitchen they stole from? That creates hassles for the cooks and people who take inventory, innocent employees being accused of theft and the bottom line. Prison though, I don't see it matters, if they steal from the kitchen they still steal from somebody. I didn't want to fight with them when they were living htere, but after they left, I wrote them a letter saying more or less what I have here. I'm sure his parents took even more food for his house than these two did. Yea I have seen this stealing and waste also. I've seen managers take large unopened items then heard "I need another one because I left the other one open." I say if your gonna steal it at least have some respect for it. And don't think pretending you are entitled makes that so, steal it, don't allow your co-workers to see what you are doing, unless they do it too. Me I really don't want to see it. |
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Dave Smith writes: There is a similar question about a boat full of iron ore sinking lock. in a canal The water level does not change because floating objects displace water equivalent to their weight. Nope. The water level drops. In the boat, the iron ore displaces a volume of water equivalent to its weight. Once the ore sinks, it displaces only its own volume of water. As water is significantly less dense than iron ore, the water level goes down. You're confusing this puzzle with the one about floating ice cubes. Even Mr. Wizard got that one wrong |
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In article , Dave Smith writes:
There is a similar question about a boat full of iron ore sinking in a canal lock. The water level does not change because floating objects displace water equivalent to their weight. And sunk objects displace water equivalent to their volume. A boat full of iron ore has a density greater than that of water, else it would not sink. Accordingly, the volume it displaces when sunk is less than the volume it displaces when floating. The level in the canal goes down. |
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PD wrote:
You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. And the answer is that because ice is less dense than water, the volume of the ice when it melts (into water) becomes exactly equal to the volume under the waterline of the icecubes. This is in fact the discovery that Archimedes made a few years back. Which is also why, if the entire Artic ice shelf melts, the ocean level will rise exactly zero feet. This is not true of the Antarctic ice fields - they've got southern ice. If the Arctic ice melts, however, the salinity of the oceans will change and all the fish will DIE. Bathers will no longer have to worry about sharks, true, but Pirana will be able to live in the ocean... |
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On Mar 19, 10:50*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
PD wrote: You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me. And the answer is that because ice is less dense than water, the volume of the ice when it melts (into water) becomes exactly equal to the volume under the waterline of the icecubes. This is in fact the discovery that Archimedes made a few years back. Which is also why, if the entire Artic ice shelf melts, the ocean level will rise exactly zero feet. This is not true of the Antarctic ice fields - they've got southern ice. If the Arctic ice melts, however, the salinity of the oceans will change and all the fish will DIE. Bathers will no longer have to worry about sharks, true, but Pirana will be able to live in the ocean... This is also true. Unfortunately, if the Arctic ice fields melt, then so do the Antarctic ice fields, though there may be some short-term (~10 year) anisotropy. And there is far more ice in the Antarctic than in the Arctic -- about 8 times as much. PD |
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In sci.electronics.repair notbob wrote:
On 2008-03-18, Brawny wrote: The same process keeps your freezer "frost free". Not really. Your freezer remains frost free due to a mechanical process. The defrost timer completely cuts off the refrigeration unit at regular intervals and then a fan comes on and blows above-freezing-air from the refrigerator compartment across the freezer coil vanes which melts the accumulated frost. This happens for about a 15-30 min period every 12-24 hrs (depending on make/model). Defroster timer failure is the most common cause of refrigerator malfunctions. It's an easy fix. Just replace the timer, which is usually a plug-in module for easy swap out. nb At least in my refrigerator there's also a heating element the winds through the freezer coil. Jerry |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message Nope. The water level drops. In the boat, the iron ore displaces a volume of water equivalent to its weight. Once the ore sinks, it displaces only its own volume of water. As water is significantly less dense than iron ore, the water level goes down. You're confusing this puzzle with the one about floating ice cubes. Even Mr. Wizard got that one wrong But if the ore is more dense, it would not float in the first place by itself. That is only a portion of the puzzle. The boat also had air pockets, lighter material in the hull, etc. If all of it sinks and air pockets remain, the level goes up. If you took iron ore by itself, it would sink right away and raise the level, but it never did float in the first place so it just moved water. . |
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wrote in message ... notbob wrote: On 2008-03-18, PD wrote: described, the added water does the sublimating rather than the food. I tried this trick with same-day shrimp acquired in South Carolina in June, and I thawed the last 2-lb bag for dinner in January, and it tasted just like the shrimp cooked the first day. I agree. Used to be able to buy 4lb of shrimp in blocks of ice. It would keep almost forever and taste nearly fresh upon melting. These newer packaging methods using flash freezing are already somewhat mummified right out of the market. Nowhere near the moisture and freshness. This also works for fish you catch yourself. Put in topless milk cartons full of water and freeze. The meat retains it's firmness and moisture. I never tried this with other than fish or seafood. I'm not sure it would work too well with herd animal flesh. Maybe. nb I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't very practical for me, Any ideas for freezing fish to last at least a month? Do what I mentioned earlier. I served salmon that had been iced this way a year earlier to a very avid fisherman once. He complimented me on how fresh it tasted. The thicker layer of ice, the longer it lasts, so multiple coats help. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message t... "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message Nope. The water level drops. In the boat, the iron ore displaces a volume of water equivalent to its weight. Once the ore sinks, it displaces only its own volume of water. As water is significantly less dense than iron ore, the water level goes down. You're confusing this puzzle with the one about floating ice cubes. Even Mr. Wizard got that one wrong But if the ore is more dense, it would not float in the first place by itself. That is only a portion of the puzzle. The boat also had air pockets, lighter material in the hull, etc. If all of it sinks and air pockets remain, the level goes up. Bzzzz! Sorry, you lose. |
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PD wrote: And the answer is that because ice is less dense than water, the volume of the ice when it melts (into water) becomes exactly equal to the volume under the waterline of the icecubes. This is in fact the discovery that Archimedes made a few years back. PD Displacement, but not with ice. He used water displacement to prove that a piece of gold wasn't pure, by comparing its displacement to a piece of pure gold of the same weight. The only other way would have been to melt it down to measure the volume. -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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DerbyDad03 wrote: Actually, I took them out of the trays and put them in bags so I would have more than 24 cubes available. Not a good idea. Ice cubes only mate in the wild. If they don't mate, they don't make more cubes. ;-) -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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