I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

On Feb 8, 4:55�pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

they will just borrow the box.........

if you have the space get something like a pickup truck box made of
diamondplate and lock your tools in that.

no matter what if they want it bad enough its gone.

my best friend keeps all his tools locked up, after having to replace
them too often

wrote:
On Feb 8, 4:55�pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

they will just borrow the box.........

if you have the space get something like a pickup truck box made of
diamondplate and lock your tools in that.

no matter what if they want it bad enough its gone.

my best friend keeps all his tools locked up, after having to replace
them too often


I was going to chain the box to something so it would be impossible
for them to steal it. I just don't know which box would be harder to
get into - plastic or metal.

It's kind of funny because my aunt complains about the same thing. Her
husband and sons take her tools too. She says it's because they can
never find their own. I wonder how some people manage to lose their
tools. I always put things back in their proper place when I'm done
with them, especially if they belong to someone else.

Jo - the girl wrote:

wrote:

On Feb 8, 4:55�pm, Jo - the girl wrote:

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

they will just borrow the box.........

if you have the space get something like a pickup truck box made of
diamondplate and lock your tools in that.

no matter what if they want it bad enough its gone.

my best friend keeps all his tools locked up, after having to replace
them too often



I was going to chain the box to something so it would be impossible
for them to steal it. I just don't know which box would be harder to
get into - plastic or metal.

It's kind of funny because my aunt complains about the same thing. Her
husband and sons take her tools too. She says it's because they can
never find their own. I wonder how some people manage to lose their
tools. I always put things back in their proper place when I'm done
with them, especially if they belong to someone else.

Lack of storage space. I have three roll cabinets, and that's still not
enough to hold all my tools, so some inevitably end up in cardboard
boxes or on shelves in the garage or...

nate

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Jo - the girl wrote in news:190703c0-55e9-4b82-
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wrote:
On Feb 8, 4:55�pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

they will just borrow the box.........

if you have the space get something like a pickup truck box made of
diamondplate and lock your tools in that.

no matter what if they want it bad enough its gone.

my best friend keeps all his tools locked up, after having to replace
them too often


I was going to chain the box to something so it would be impossible
for them to steal it. I just don't know which box would be harder to
get into - plastic or metal.

OF COURSE an all-metal toolbox will be harder to break into than a plastic
box.
Plastic also degrades over time,becomes brittle.


It's kind of funny because my aunt complains about the same thing. Her
husband and sons take her tools too. She says it's because they can
never find their own. I wonder how some people manage to lose their
tools. I always put things back in their proper place when I'm done
with them, especially if they belong to someone else.


ADMIRABLE.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

"Jo - the girl" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Feb 8, 4:55?pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

they will just borrow the box.........

if you have the space get something like a pickup truck box made of
diamondplate and lock your tools in that.

no matter what if they want it bad enough its gone.

my best friend keeps all his tools locked up, after having to replace
them too often


I was going to chain the box to something so it would be impossible
for them to steal it. I just don't know which box would be harder to
get into - plastic or metal.

==============


If you can't figure out which box would be harder to vandalize, you are too
stupid to touch any tool more dangerous than a spoon.

Jo - the girl wrote:
I always put things back in their proper place when I'm done
with them, especially if they belong to someone else.

That doesn't always work. A while back I lost my electrician's pliers.
I looked everywhere. Then one day I looked up at the rack above the
work bench, where I am supposed to keep them, and there they were. I
had been trying to figure where I used them the last time so I could
go there and find them.

Bill Gill

On Feb 8, 3:55*pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

If your 'friends' would rip open a tool box to 'borrow' what they
need, simply get the biggest thing with a lock that you can lift
(Sears isn't too bad for this) and chain it to something permanent in
the house, like a drain pipe. Adopt a policy of getting a deposit
equal to the tool cost upfront before the item leaves home and then
deduct something reasonable from that if they bring it back on time
and in perfect condition. Consider it just a means of retraining some
individuals who have gotten a bit inconsiderate over the years. You
stand to gain a lot of respect, you tool collection will be intact and
you won't lose any friends that really matter. HTH


Joe

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:55:57 -0800 (PST), Jo - the girl
wrote:

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

Have serious sit-down talk with your *housemates, friends, and
family*.

As others imply, the box can grow legs and walk off


Oren
--

Oren wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:55:57 -0800 (PST), Jo - the girl
wrote:


I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?


Have serious sit-down talk with your *housemates, friends, and
family*.

As others imply, the box can grow legs and walk off


Oren
--

get a Dremel and engrave your name/other identifying mark on all your tools.

nate

(my grandpa was #234 at the mill he worked at... I'm reminded of this
every time I grab a wrench)

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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:58:22 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote:

get a Dremel and engrave your name/other identifying mark on all your tools.

Smaller tools use bin cards and inventory. Hard to etch dental tools


Oren
--

"Jo - the girl" wrote in message
...
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?



When I used to do work in New York City I would keep my tools in a steel
tool box with a padlock. I would also use another padlock on a 20' steel
aircraft cable with hoops that I would loop through the toolbox handle and
lock it down to where ever I was working. I wouldn't recommend a plastic
toolbox if you want security. Sears used to have some steel boxes around
the size that you are looking for with a provision for a padlock.

"Jo - the girl" wrote in message
...
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

Get a sturdy toolbox of either metal or composite, then paint it pink with
little daisies for decoration. That should keep most of the men from
breaking into it. If you don't think that's enough disincentive, use a
permanent marker and write something like "Jo's Sewing Supplies" or even,
"Emergency Tampax supply" on the top. No one will touch it.

On Feb 8, 3:55*pm, Jo - the girl wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

Wow I think it is esier to talk to the people. However talk to them
and if that doesn't help think about other thincs.

http://www.planorealestateadvisor.com
http//www.planorealty.blogspot.com

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:55:57 -0800 (PST), Jo - the girl
wrote:

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?


Get one of those roll around lockable metal tool cabinets--lots of
sizes available. I have a portable tool box, but it is empty and
ready to load up with the tools I need for the next job. I'm not
about to loan out my expensive tools to be kept or abused. If you
have your tools well-organized you can tell at a glance what is
missing.

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

If you've got friends who'll go to that extent to get a tool in a locked
box, you have other problems than a missing tool or two.

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On Feb 9, 1:16�pm, "Twayne" wrote:
I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

If you've got friends who'll go to that extent to get a tool in a locked
box, you have other problems than �a missing tool or two.

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Twayne

OO0 is a GREAT MS Office replacementwww.openoffice.org

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you could lock the tools up, but play nice and leave a bunch of harbor
freight specials for your friends use.

a obvious unasked question? what tools and values?

In article
,
Jo - the girl wrote:

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking my
tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to get
some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

I think a metal box is the answer. Put a motorcycle battery in it,
hooked up to a dozen 10,000 uF capacitors connected to the box. That
should discourage the rascals. You might need a secret way to discharge
them when *you* need a tool, though.

In article
,
Jo - the girl wrote:

I'm really tired of people (housemates, friends, and family) taking
my tools without permission and then failing to return them. I go to
get some pliars or something and they're not there, it's really
annoying.

I need a small portable toolbox/hand box for my tools and need an
opinion. I'm looking for one that's about 16 inches that I can put a
padlock on. After looking at a few it occurred to me that a padlock
might not keep people out. Some of the hinges on the plastic ones
appear big enough that you could push the pins out and open it up at
the hinges even if it had a padlock. What I'm wondering is how
difficult it would be to do that? Would a metal box be more difficult
to get into or does it depend?

I think a metal box is the answer. Put a motorcycle battery in it,
hooked up to a dozen 10,000 uF capacitors connected to the box. That
should discourage the rascals. You might need a secret way to
discharge them when *you* need a tool, though.

A dozen 10000 UFd caps charged up to the voltage of a motorcycle battery
will do ... absolutely nothing. 12V DC is harmless.

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Twayne

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