I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge of
the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. Said edge
hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water blows up
into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe wadded
insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1 or 2 inch
remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go only as far as
I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

On Dec 29, 10:02*am, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). *The contractor is no longer
available. *As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge of
the roof. *Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. *Said edge
hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. *Rain water blows up
into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe wadded
insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. *Then fill the 1 or 2 inch
remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). *The foam would go only as far as
I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

I am not sure your proposed solution would hold up to the weather but
I really don't know. There are closure strips that are manufactured
for this that are usually installed when the panels are installed. Do
a google search for "metel roof closure strip" and you should run
across something. You may be able to get these in there with a little
work.

On Dec 29, 12:02*pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). *The contractor is no longer
available. *As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge of
the roof. *Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. *Said edge
hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. *Rain water blows up
into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe wadded
insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. *Then fill the 1 or 2 inch
remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). *The foam would go only as far as
I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

non expanding spray foam

On Dec 29, 1:02*pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). *The contractor is no longer
available. *As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge of
the roof. *Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. *Said edge
hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. *Rain water blows up
into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe wadded
insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. *Then fill the 1 or 2 inch
remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). *The foam would go only as far as
I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

The roof deck, particularly the edge, is potentially subject to
rotting.
The water that is blown up there will be absorbed and any spores are
protected from sun and warmed by the sun on the roof.
Unless the roof edge is wrapped with self adhering flashing / ice &
water shield, a solution has to protect the deck.
Foam a closure strip will not hold the metal roof in place.

I suggest finding a roofer to provide a proper edge to the roof.

T

The material is commonly called bird stop in the trade and closure
strip as a more technical term and is quite standard in the metal
building business. Here is an example for R panel:
http://www.metaldepotinc.com/closure.htm or
http://www.atysteelbuildings.com/steelbuildingserec/steel_buildings_erectm28.htm

If you do not have R panel, you will need to find a supplier of
the type of panel you have to buy the appropriate shape. MBCI
carries quite a few:
https://www.mbcionline.com/shopping/en/US/adirect/mbci?cmd=catDisplayStyle



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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3Zvdj.79$sX5.53@trndny01...
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is
no longer available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows
water under the edge of the roof. Roof edge is guttered full
length and is 60 feet long. Said edge hangs into the gutter
approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water blows up into the
raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something
(maybe wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop.
Then fill the 1 or 2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great
Stuff?). The foam would go only as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize
mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3Zvdj.79$sX5.53@trndny01...
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge of
the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. Said
edge hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water
blows up into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe
wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1 or
2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go only
as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


Thanks everybody. The metal supplier is within a few miles of me. I never
considered that they have a metal trim piece (bird stop) just for this
purpose. Thanks again.

Ivan Vegvary

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3Zvdj.79$sX5.53@trndny01...
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge
of the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. Said
edge hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water
blows up into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe
wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1 or
2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go only
as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


Thanks everybody. The metal supplier is within a few miles of me. I
never considered that they have a metal trim piece (bird stop) just for
this purpose. Thanks again.

Ivan Vegvary

It is my understanding that roofs of this type, like tile roofs, need
drainage and ventilation at the bottom and not a seal. Even if there are no
leaks, condensation will cause dampness under the metal and it needs to be
able to dry out.

Don Young

On Dec 29, 10:21 pm, "Don Young" wrote:
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message

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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
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I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the edge
of the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long. Said
edge hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water
blows up into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe
wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1 or
2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go only
as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Thanks everybody. The metal supplier is within a few miles of me. I
never considered that they have a metal trim piece (bird stop) just for
this purpose. Thanks again.

Ivan Vegvary

It is my understanding that roofs of this type, like tile roofs, need
drainage and ventilation at the bottom and not a seal. Even if there are no
leaks, condensation will cause dampness under the metal and it needs to be
able to dry out.

Don Young

I'm sitting here wondering how you know there is water blowing under
the eave. You should have felt under the metal, precisely for the
reason Don Young is bringing up--condensation could form under the
steel. So if you have felt, how would you know water is blowing up
there? If you don't, you could have more trouble than just the open
gaps at the eave.

"marson" wrote in message
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On Dec 29, 10:21 pm, "Don Young" wrote:
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message

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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3Zvdj.79$sX5.53@trndny01...
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no
longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the
edge
of the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long.
Said
edge hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water
blows up into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe
wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1
or
2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go
only
as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Thanks everybody. The metal supplier is within a few miles of me. I
never considered that they have a metal trim piece (bird stop) just for
this purpose. Thanks again.

Ivan Vegvary

It is my understanding that roofs of this type, like tile roofs, need
drainage and ventilation at the bottom and not a seal. Even if there are
no
leaks, condensation will cause dampness under the metal and it needs to
be
able to dry out.

Don Young

I'm sitting here wondering how you know there is water blowing under
the eave. You should have felt under the metal, precisely for the
reason Don Young is bringing up--condensation could form under the
steel. So if you have felt, how would you know water is blowing up
there? If you don't, you could have more trouble than just the open
gaps at the eave.

Thanks for you concern. The metal roof has 1" insulation under the panels.
This metal/insulation sandwich is screwed down to 2x6 rafters 16 inches on
center. About 4-5 feet below is the ceiling (topped with 3/4" plywood) of
my finished space (this is a shop). The top of this ceiling is what I call
my mezzanine. I walk on this mezzanine and use it for storage. The
mezzanine had a large (about 3ft x 7 ft) puddle on it near the edge of the
roof. I tore back the thin insulation and only the outer 6-8 inches was wet
for a length of about 4 feet. I'm sure that it is rain being blown in from
the outside. BTW, have not fixed it yet, had lots of rainy days but no
wind. Everything is pretty dry now.

Your concern about ventilation. As I explained the whole roof metal is
underlain by this thin blanket (Mylar or vinyl on the underside) of
insulation. Said blanket is fully exposed to my shop. If you think I still
need ventilation I would rather put up the 'bird stop' and simply slit the
insulation a few feet further into the building.

What do you think?

Thanks again,

Ivan Vegvary

On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
"marson" wrote in message

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On Dec 29, 10:21 pm, "Don Young" wrote:
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message

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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3Zvdj.79$sX5.53@trndny01...
I have a fairly new metal roof (2 years old). The contractor is no
longer
available. As my plumber had predicted, wind blows water under the
edge
of the roof. Roof edge is guttered full length and is 60 feet long.
Said
edge hangs into the gutter approximately 1 to 1-1/2 inches. Rain water
blows up into the raised 'bumps' of the roofing panels.

My idea of a fix would be to stuff a tiny amount of something (maybe
wadded insulation) up into the bump to use as a stop. Then fill the 1
or
2 inch remaining cavity with foam (Great Stuff?). The foam would go
only
as far as I shoved the 'stop'.

Anybody have any better ideas please submit and criticize mine!!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Thanks everybody. The metal supplier is within a few miles of me. I
never considered that they have a metal trim piece (bird stop) just for
this purpose. Thanks again.

Ivan Vegvary

It is my understanding that roofs of this type, like tile roofs, need
drainage and ventilation at the bottom and not a seal. Even if there are
no
leaks, condensation will cause dampness under the metal and it needs to
be
able to dry out.

Don Young

I'm sitting here wondering how you know there is water blowing under
the eave. You should have felt under the metal, precisely for the
reason Don Young is bringing up--condensation could form under the
steel. So if you have felt, how would you know water is blowing up
there? If you don't, you could have more trouble than just the open
gaps at the eave.

Thanks for you concern. The metal roof has 1" insulation under the panels.
This metal/insulation sandwich is screwed down to 2x6 rafters 16 inches on
center. About 4-5 feet below is the ceiling (topped with 3/4" plywood) of
my finished space (this is a shop). The top of this ceiling is what I call
my mezzanine. I walk on this mezzanine and use it for storage. The
mezzanine had a large (about 3ft x 7 ft) puddle on it near the edge of the
roof. I tore back the thin insulation and only the outer 6-8 inches was wet
for a length of about 4 feet. I'm sure that it is rain being blown in from
the outside. BTW, have not fixed it yet, had lots of rainy days but no
wind. Everything is pretty dry now.

Your concern about ventilation. As I explained the whole roof metal is
underlain by this thin blanket (Mylar or vinyl on the underside) of
insulation. Said blanket is fully exposed to my shop. If you think I still
need ventilation I would rather put up the 'bird stop' and simply slit the
insulation a few feet further into the building.

What do you think?

Thanks again,

Ivan Vegvary

I didn't know you had foam under the metal. I would then block the
holes in the eave. The closure strips are closed cell foam. They
stop wind driven rain from blowing into the ridge (those would be the
opposite pattern you need), so I don't see why they wouldn't work in
your case. You could use Great Stuff, but it doesn't handle exposure
to the elements real well. Plus, if it doesn't work for some reason,
you really have a mess on your hands.