Finishing my basement and done with the framing. I have one soffit
that spans a 6" duct as well as an I-beam over the course of 25'.
They're offset a little, but instead of making a turn in the soffit,
I'm just installing one long soffit to enclose both. This will
provide a little extra room to put recessed lighting in the soffit as
well, which is needed. Since I can't purchase 25' 2x2's to build the
soffit from, I used leftover 2x4's, ripped into 2x2's and OSB to add
ridgidity. Because some pieces are 4' and others are 8', the soffit
ended up not perfectly straight, although it's only about 0.5" off
over the course of the entire 25' run. Is this the nature of building
soffits, or if I buy 16' 2x2's and redo the entire thing, will it look
much better? Any chance adding the drywall will "hide" the underlying
issue, or is it likely to only make it worse or more obvious?

Thanks

I think I know what you are talking about because I just built the same
thing. If you could post a picture somewhere, that would help. I don't
think buying longer lumber is going to help you much.

These are some of the things I did to get a straight soffit.
Did you snap a straight chalk line on the overhead rafters?
Did you overlap your 2x2 joints with the osb?
Can you move the bottom of the soffit in or out by adjusting the horizontal
pieces that are connecting to the wall on the other side of the sofffit?
When you built the soffit, did you hang a straight mason line at the bottom
of the soffit as a reference?
Since its .5" off, will anybody notice other than you?

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Finishing my basement and done with the framing. I have one soffit
that spans a 6" duct as well as an I-beam over the course of 25'.
They're offset a little, but instead of making a turn in the soffit,
I'm just installing one long soffit to enclose both. This will
provide a little extra room to put recessed lighting in the soffit as
well, which is needed. Since I can't purchase 25' 2x2's to build the
soffit from, I used leftover 2x4's, ripped into 2x2's and OSB to add
ridgidity. Because some pieces are 4' and others are 8', the soffit
ended up not perfectly straight, although it's only about 0.5" off
over the course of the entire 25' run. Is this the nature of building
soffits, or if I buy 16' 2x2's and redo the entire thing, will it look
much better? Any chance adding the drywall will "hide" the underlying
issue, or is it likely to only make it worse or more obvious?

Thanks

On Nov 29, 12:04 pm, "JohnnyC" wrote:
I think I know what you are talking about because I just built the same
thing. If you could post a picture somewhere, that would help. I don't
think buying longer lumber is going to help you much.

These are some of the things I did to get a straight soffit.
Did you snap a straight chalk line on the overhead rafters?
Did you overlap your 2x2 joints with the osb?
Can you move the bottom of the soffit in or out by adjusting the horizontal
pieces that are connecting to the wall on the other side of the sofffit?
When you built the soffit, did you hang a straight mason line at the bottom
of the soffit as a reference?
Since its .5" off, will anybody notice other than you?

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Thanks for the reply. I did snap a straight chalkline on the joists,
and even though a few of the 2x2's were a little crooked, I
straightened them to the chalkline before nailing them. I overlapped
the 2x2 joints with OSB as mentioned, and I cut all the horizontal
pieces the same length to ensure that the sides of the soffit do move
to match the even horizontal pieces, hopefully ensuring that this
straightens out the soffit. However, when I hold a taut string along
the edge of the soffit, it does not ride the soffit the entire length
- it deviates at points by up to 0.5". Perhaps part of my problem is
that the soffit is half up against a wall (staircase wall), adn half
in the middle of the room - so that makes it a bit more difficult.
Also, I'm essentially using the OSB as the height of the soffit,
instead of having installed more accurately measured 2x2 cripples.
The OSB is pretty straight, but anything cut with a circular saw (by
me at least) is going to be less accurate than a measured miter saw
cut. Still undecided on whether to take it down and redo it or not...

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Finishing my basement and done with the framing. I have one soffit
that spans a 6" duct as well as an I-beam over the course of 25'.
They're offset a little, but instead of making a turn in the soffit,
I'm just installing one long soffit to enclose both. This will
provide a little extra room to put recessed lighting in the soffit as
well, which is needed. Since I can't purchase 25' 2x2's to build the
soffit from, I used leftover 2x4's, ripped into 2x2's and OSB to add
ridgidity. Because some pieces are 4' and others are 8', the soffit
ended up not perfectly straight, although it's only about 0.5" off
over the course of the entire 25' run. Is this the nature of building
soffits, or if I buy 16' 2x2's and redo the entire thing, will it look
much better? Any chance adding the drywall will "hide" the underlying
issue, or is it likely to only make it worse or more obvious?

Thanks

Don't sweat the small stuff. Over 25', the only person that knows this,
is you. If you decided on doing something crazy, like putting up strips
on the ceiling, then there would be a reference point to see how far off
you were.

Walls are not perfect, most all rough framing done in wood is twisted,
bowed, crowned or has some imperfection. Rarely when laying out a wall &
standing it up, will it hit the chalk-line perfect the entire length.

Advice to any future soffit builders. I was going to surround a large room
(30ft x 40ft) with a soffit all around. The idea was to bring down the 10
foot ceiling to 8 foot at the walls. While discussing this with my
sheetrock installer (who was eager to get started and knows how slow I work)
he said he'll take care of it when the come to sheetrock the new addition.

Okay, it's sheetrock morning and while 3 crews (6 people) are putting up the
200 sheets of drywall, my sheetrock wall frames in all of the soffits in
about 1 hour. We're talking about 100 feet of soffit 18" vertical and 24"
horizontal. He simply framed all of the soffits with the flimsy metal
corners used for outside sheetrock corners. He screwed metal sheetrock
corners to the ceiling joists 24" out from the wall. Cut a bunches of
corners to about 18"+ and hung (screwed) them from this horizontal metal
corner (all of them dangling like tinsel). Screwed more horizontal pieces
on to the walls 18" down from the ceiling. Connected all of the dangling
pieces with another horizontal member, added a few stiffeners and covered
the whole thing with 1/2 inch drywall. He reminded me that this metal
framing weighs nothing and is fast to install. Tin snips and screw gun is
all it took.

BTW, the following also helped: He is very skilled, main area being drywall
in commercial spaces. He is 6'-8" and does not use a ladder for 8' work.
He had rotating laser set up in the middle of the room on a ladder and a
bunch of books. Shimmed up the laser so the beam was exactly 8 feet above
the floor. I swear, it took about an hour!!!

Ivan Vegvary (who saved himself days of cutting little 2by pieces of wood
and nailing them together and getting it crooked)

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Finishing my basement and done with the framing. I have one soffit
that spans a 6" duct as well as an I-beam over the course of 25'.
They're offset a little, but instead of making a turn in the soffit,
I'm just installing one long soffit to enclose both. This will
provide a little extra room to put recessed lighting in the soffit as
well, which is needed. Since I can't purchase 25' 2x2's to build the
soffit from, I used leftover 2x4's, ripped into 2x2's and OSB to add
ridgidity. Because some pieces are 4' and others are 8', the soffit
ended up not perfectly straight, although it's only about 0.5" off
over the course of the entire 25' run. Is this the nature of building
soffits, or if I buy 16' 2x2's and redo the entire thing, will it look
much better? Any chance adding the drywall will "hide" the underlying
issue, or is it likely to only make it worse or more obvious?

Thanks

On Nov 28, 11:09 pm, wrote:
Finishing my basement and done with the framing. I have one soffit
that spans a 6" duct as well as an I-beam over the course of 25'.
They're offset a little, but instead of making a turn in the soffit,
I'm just installing one long soffit to enclose both. This will
provide a little extra room to put recessed lighting in the soffit as
well, which is needed. Since I can't purchase 25' 2x2's to build the
soffit from, I used leftover 2x4's, ripped into 2x2's and OSB to add
ridgidity. Because some pieces are 4' and others are 8', the soffit
ended up not perfectly straight, although it's only about 0.5" off
over the course of the entire 25' run. Is this the nature of building
soffits, or if I buy 16' 2x2's and redo the entire thing, will it look
much better? Any chance adding the drywall will "hide" the underlying
issue, or is it likely to only make it worse or more obvious?

Visit USG's web site and check out their suggested methods for framing
soffits with metal track, angle and studs. It's far, far faster and
you'll get better results.

R

On Nov 30, 1:02 am, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
Advice to any future soffit builders. I was going to surround a large room
(30ft x 40ft) with a soffit all around. The idea was to bring down the 10
foot ceiling to 8 foot at the walls. While discussing this with my
sheetrock installer (who was eager to get started and knows how slow I work)
he said he'll take care of it when the come to sheetrock the new addition.

Okay, it's sheetrock morning and while 3 crews (6 people) are putting up the
200 sheets of drywall, my sheetrock wall frames in all of the soffits in
about 1 hour. We're talking about 100 feet of soffit 18" vertical and 24"
horizontal. He simply framed all of the soffits with the flimsy metal
corners used for outside sheetrock corners. He screwed metal sheetrock
corners to the ceiling joists 24" out from the wall. Cut a bunches of
corners to about 18"+ and hung (screwed) them from this horizontal metal
corner (all of them dangling like tinsel). Screwed more horizontal pieces
on to the walls 18" down from the ceiling. Connected all of the dangling
pieces with another horizontal member, added a few stiffeners and covered
the whole thing with 1/2 inch drywall. He reminded me that this metal
framing weighs nothing and is fast to install. Tin snips and screw gun is
all it took.

I'm sure that your installer didn't use drywall corner bead, more
likely metal angle that is intended for use in metal stud framing.
It's a typical commercial installation. It requires very few tools,
is easy to adjust and is easy for one man to install.

BTW, the following also helped: He is very skilled, main area being drywall
in commercial spaces. He is 6'-8" and does not use a ladder for 8' work.
He had rotating laser set up in the middle of the room on a ladder and a
bunch of books. Shimmed up the laser so the beam was exactly 8 feet above
the floor. I swear, it took about an hour!!!

I have a 6'-8" buddy who's a contractor. It ****es me off every time
I see him working on a ceiling or soffit and he's standing on the
floor. Mutants should not be allowed in the building trades.

R