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Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds

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On Oct 17, 10:10 am, wrote:
Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds



Proposition 3:
You're just another discredited 911 conspiracy kook. Why don't you
get together with the other clowns that claim WTC 1 and 2 couldn't
have been brought down by a raging jet fuel fire in just a couple
hours. Here, you have the thirdd building that burned for most of
the day before finally collapsing, and that isn't right either.

What are we supposed to believe? That the building was pre-rigged
with explosives? And those doing it knew just where the planes would
hit, exactly how WTC would be affected, and that the impact, debris,
fires, etc would not interfere with the explosives being set off 10
hours later? Or do you think guys went into the burning builiding at
the last minute to put explosives in place.

Can anyone be this stupid? And while getting together with your
fellow kooks, how about this. Tell us start to finish what happened
that day. That's what the 911 commission did and the story is
compelling. Make sure you include the kooks that claim it wasn't AA
jets that hit WTC, and kindly explain the missing AA planes, crew,
passengers, wreckage, etc that took of from airports that morning.


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PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds


Proposition 3:
You're just another discredited 911 conspiracy kook.


But as physics prof Steven Jones and others have mentioned, this is a matter
of physics. If momentum had been conserved, the 47-floor collapse might have
taken 27 vs 6 seconds.

Nick

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The ongoing SEC insider-trading investigative documents were
supposedly destroyed along with Wendy Gramm's (Enron Board since 1993)
Commodity (Energy) Futures Trading Commision documents in building 7

How lucky is that for 61 of the nation's largest energy companies?

binLaden saved the asses of a lot of white-collar criminals

Here is some interesting reading regarding the attacks and Enron

Enron & Anthrax Timeline; Chapter 1-6

On the 17th or 18th of September 2001 the five letters.. were mailed.

On the 17th of September 2001 the FDA wrote a [fake] letter to Merck
about the "favorable" cardiovascular safety profile of Vioxx.

On the 19th of September 2001 Kenneth Lay pretended to request a
meeting with Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham who pretended to deny
the request.

On this day Enron pretended to envoke a clause in its Dabhol power
plant pretending India was liable for $5 billion.

Question: Why pretend?

Answer: If you really wanted India to pay for your Dabhol plant you
don't go and shred your business documents and indict your executives.

Dabhol was surveyed in late 1992 and construction started immediately
following the first WTC bombing in Feb 1993 (the 1993 war-on-terror
budget would have financed the Dabhol, ElPaso, Mirant, etc. plants in
India).

India was never expected to pay for its energy upgrade. India didn't
actually "pay" Tyco for India's telecom upgrade.

It is worth remembering "the anthrax is in the mail".

Also on the 19th Waksal told Imclone investors "We do not have any
worries about the FDA".

"We don't.. but you do."

On the 20th Bush invited Hamza Yusuf to the White House to ask him
about his "points of view" then Bush met with Porter Goss minutes
before his speech to the nation.

The same day Kenneth Lay hosted Elizabeth Dole's Senate seat fund
raiser in Houston.

On the 21st an oral report was made to Kenneth Lay on Vinson & Elkins'
"findings" (this would be the "attorney firing" Gonzales, Novation,
Tenet, GPO, Medicare, Safe Harbor.. Vinson & Elkins).

As if Lay needed an oral report on how he had been cooking the books
since 1993?

Starting the next day nine people are incorrectly diagnosed (but
whomever sent the thrax knows the diagnosis).

On the 26th Lay urged his employees to buy Enron stock.

"We have stopped cooking our books for the first time since 1993..
this is a good time to buy Enron stock."

On the 1st of Oct Blanco was hospitalized.

On the 2nd Stevens was admitted.

On the 3rd Enron Chairman Ken Lay and FERC chairman Pat Wood sat at an
energy policy conference "speaker's table" in Virginia.. and Cheney
met with India External Affairs Minister Jaswant Sing regarding Dabhol
"talking points".

On the 4th Stevens was "publicly" confirmed to have anthrax (but the
public doesn't know it yet).

On the 5th Stevens dies.

Starting the next day two more letters were mailed and Enron's
President, Greg Whalley calls Treasury Undersecretary Peter Fisher
"six or eight" times to ask the government to urge bankers to extend
credit to the struggling company.

Obviously the eighth call worked.

Note: The day after 9-11 the Wall Street Journal asked Enron Corp
President Whalley about "what lies ahead" and Whalley responded: "The
freak-out factor is gone" and "Calm has returned"

9-11 had a "calming" effect on the President of Enron?

The 7th of October is day 1 Afghanistan bombings.

On the 8th Ridge was sworn.

On the 10th, Vice Presidential aide and former executive director of
Cheney's white-collar crime.. errr.. make that.. Cheney's energy task
force, Andrew Lundquist (note: the task force officially disbanded "at
the end of September") and WH economic advisor Robert McNally met with
Enron representatives Gerstandt, Vicens, and Hardy.

The next day Todd Graves was sworn in (Tenet, GPO, Novation, Lipari)
and Assistant USA Tom Wales is murdered in the basement office of his
home.

There is bit of white-collar crime around here somewhere (don't
confuse gun-control with white-collar crime).

On the 15th NBC turned over its letter.

Let the dog and pony show begin.

On the 15th Donald Evans hooked up Sig Rogich with Kenneth Lay and the
Vinson & Elkins report is submitted to Lay (again.. they are
pretending India was ever expected to pay its energy bills).

This was pure Shakespeare.

On the 15th of October Daschle's letter was opened.

The next day Enron reports a "big third quarter loss" of $618 million
and reduces shareholder equity the following day by $1.5 billion to
account for transactions involving limited partnerships.

This is also the day that Rebecca Smith and John R. Emshwiller claim
as the "start of Enron's problems" in their book "24 days" published
by Harper Collins.

First off.. the start of your problems do not begin when you stop
cooking your books.

The start of your problems begins when you start cooking your books
because the questions that should be answered are "Why" and "Why
then?"

If the "start" of your problems is on the 16th of Oct then why would
the SEC and CFTC documents destroyed in the WTC matter to
shareholders?

What is noteworthy about Q3 is what happened the month before and the
month after day 1 of Q3 (July 01, 2001) but that is another story.

Coincidence or not.. at this point in time anthrax is now covering up
Enron's stock market debasement.

This loss report is the first time Enron had been honest about a
quarterly balance sheet in almost 7 years.

The question to ask is not: "Why did you cook your books?

The question is: "Why did you stop cooking your books?"

The next question should be: "Why did you stop cooking your books on
day one of Q3?"

The possible answer offered might be: "Because Sherron Watkins blew a
whistle."

Not.

She was a phony whistleblower set up by Toffler from Harvard.

By the way.. day one of Q3 is about as far back as SOX (now referred
to as "SARBOX") is required to investigate.

On the 17th it is reported that "Enron shareholders stand to make
millions from Enron partnerships." and 31 capital workers test
positive for the presence of anthrax and the House of Representatives
adjourns.

The following day David Iglesias (New Mexico) is sworn in.

Keywords again here a GE, Tenet, Novation, Lipari, pulse oximetry,
safe harbor, medicare fraud, kickbacks, GPOs

At this point in time the CIA is briefing Cheney on Niger uranium.

On the 19th the New York Post letter is found.

Here begins the theater.

On the 19th Ridge briefs the media on "potential anthrax threats" and
Enron freezes its assets in its 401K employee retirement plan and bars
employees from selling company stock trading at $32.20 per share.

Employee stock is unfrozen on November 19th with shares at $11.69.

This is exhibit "a" on how power plants in India get paid for and
don't assume this nation building reality goes over the head of
India's Prime Minister.

GE pulled this same stunt with India's first hydroelectric plant in
1902 and the crash of 1903 paid that invoice.

The same day Ridge "briefs the media" on anthrax, and Enron freezes
its assets in its 401K employee (not executives) retirement plan..
Wendy Gramm's husband Phil Gramm has an article published in the WSJ
entitled "Econ 101: Poor Folks Can't Give You A Job" (Remember Wendy?
She sat on Enron's board and was an architect of Enron's Commodity
Futures Trading).

Poor folks have just discovered two things they can't do.

1. give you a job.. and
2. sell their assets in the Enron 401Ks

Class warfare ironies:

1. Enron's "rich" never actually had the money anyway.
2. If you can't count - how do you know you are rich?

On the 21st of Oct Morris dies.

The next day Curseen dies and Ridge reports on their deaths at a WH
press conference and Harvey Pitt announces he will make the SEC "a
kinder (as in "Rich Kinder" as in Kinder-Morgan) and gentler place"
for accountants.

If you are wondering if Arthur Anderson is around here somewhere - you
are correct.

Do you think foreign nations (like India and in 2007 China/
Westinghouse/Shaw Group) are learning a bit of a lesson here?

Why pay a company for building your energy plant if the company was
cooking its books during the plant's construction?

Iran is telling Russia that Iran isn't going to pay for Russia's just
completed Nuc plants while I am typing this sentence. As if Russia and
Iran don't know how the game is played?

And guess what.. the same day Pitt makes his "kinder-gentler"
announcement, Arthur Anderson learns that the SEC "is inquiring into
the accounting of Enron Corp., and Enron discloses that the SEC had
"opened an inquiry into its limited partnerships" .

Sort of bad news for Enron 401K shareholders (outsiders shining
flashlights through envelopes) but in a little bit you will see things
aren't so bad for 130 Enron executives.

The following day (23 Oct.) David B. Duncan of Anderson Accounting
calls a meeting to organize the destruction of "Enron related
records".

Put on your gloves and masks - we are about to start shredding during
an anthrax scare!

But weren't Enron's records destroyed in Bldg 7?

Now let me get this straight: Everybody from the Pope to Clinton is
trying to get India to pay its Enron bills and AA is shredding
records?

DUH!

On the 24th Enron replaces Fastow and John McKay (Western Washington)
is sworn in as a USA under a presidential nomination and senate
confirmation.

I guess anthrax wasn't holding the Senate back.

Google "John McKay" and Medicare, Novation, you are getting the idea.

On the 25th Enron tapped $3 billion from bank lines to ensure
liquidity and all eyes are glued as Governor Ridge gives an update on
the scientific analysis of the anthrax samples.

So basically Greenspan and Bush didn't "do anything for Lay" but
obviously the banks did. But the $3 billion doesn't help the locked-
out employees much because nobody cheers up Enron's "poor" frozen
asset holders with the good news.

This is called "not doing anything for Enron".

Ridge emphasized that the anthrax samples are from the same Ames
strain.

The next day President Bush signs the "Patriots Don't Know Anything
About Enron Act" and Mr. Lay calls Mr. Greenspan.

The Fed doesn't disclose the details of the call but it does say "Mr.
Greenspan did nothing in response".

On the 28th Lay speaks to O'Neil who adds his name to the list of
people who do not intervene.

Here is Isaac Newton's tip on rule # 1 of how to intentionally and
successfully debase the vehicle of monetary exchange (in this case the
stock certificate).

Don't intervene.

Now on the 29th we are about to find out that the anthrax spores are
ten times worse than we thought they were and by now you can probably
imagine what other events occur during this announcement by the Major
General John S. Parker.

On the 28th of October (the day Lay spoke to O'Neill) Moody lowers
Enron's rating.

The next day the bin Laden family ends its Carlyle Group
"relationship" and Commerce Secretary Donald Evans is "reached" by
Kenneth Lay. Enron blocks employees younger than 50 years old from
selling stock in their accounts from this day to November 12th. Enron
claims that it is because of a change of administrators, but at the
same time, 29 top executives cash out of more than $1 billion
(remember the $3 billion credit line?)

A "change of administrators" during an SEC investigation?

Two days later, Kathy Nguyen dies and Major General John S. Parker
testifies before the Senate Committee on Internal Security and Federal
Service concerning the anthrax found in the Daschle letter and the SEC
elevates the Enron inquiry to a formal investigation which is more
tough news for the locked-out 49 year-old employees, but its only
paper money anyway.. except for yesterday's 29 top executives (that
was real money).

Those are 29 people (none over 50 years-old?) that are pretty happy
"nobody helped Enron".

November:

Peter G. Peterson joins ImClone's board, Lay puts his Aspen houses on
the market, the price of a 128-MB chip is $1.50 (A Boston investment
bank later says that Enron's "collapse" triggered a price spike for
DRAM. Enron had begun negotiating forward contracts with buyers and
sellers as part of its planned entry into the DRAM market. Sources
said that Enron told them that Enron had "suggested or consummated"
financial swap contracts at $4 per 128-megabyte chip.)

Also in November, El Paso trader, Todd Gieger, begins fabricating 48
natural gas trades and sends fake volume and price information by
email to "Inside FERC's gas market report.

This is called wire fraud and so soon after 9-11.. how patriotic is
that?

Also this month, after receiving the "formal accident package" the
assurance manager at the FAA crushes the tape of the 9-11 controllers
contained within the package.

On November 1st Enron secures another $1 billion in new credit lines,
pledging its natural gas pipeline as collateral and President Bush
signs EO 13233 which limits public access to papers of all presidents
since 1980 including George W. Bush.

What was that about another billion for Enron?

Is it me or does it seem the bank's intent is to create "a higher
number of millionaires in America.. then ever before"?

Also on Nov 01 talking points are prepared for President Bush's
meeting with the India Prime Minister and Bush avoids discussing Enron
during the meeting.

I would imagine Executive Order 13223 includes this meeting?

The next day Spencer Abraham called Lay to "check up on the company"
and neither mentions any assistance for the company.

$4 billion in bank loans isn't assistance?

Here is what the banks are really doing: They are acting like they are
being duped and basically debasing their own wealth at the expense of
their own shareholders.

The same day Margaret "Medicare" Chiara (Western Michigan) and Daniel
" Medicare" Bogden (Nevada) are sworn in as USAs. Note: Medicare has
intentionally allowed itself to be defrauded ever since Johnson signed
the legislation in 1965 which is the reason the program exists.

On the 6th of November OPIC President Peter Watson contacts a top aide
of the India Prime Minister saying: "The acute lack of progress in
this matter has forced Dabhol to rise to the highest levels of the
United States Government."

Yeah sure.. Shakespeare couldn't have made it more dramatic. Pete
should get an Emmy.

The following day Governor Ridge, in a press briefing, dismisses
bentonite as a binding agent for the anthrax in the Daschle letter
saying the ingredient is silicon.

Remember what I was saying about Russia?

Well, as Ridge is dismissing bentonite, Russia began the next Enron
leapfrog phase and clinches a deal to build a $2.5 billion nuclear
power in Southern India, expanding its relationship which has seen New
Delhi become one of Russia's arms purchasers. Russian and Indian
officials signed a memorandum on construction of the plant, at
Kudunkulam in India's southern state of Tamil Nadu.

Go figure. Russia can't afford its labor force either?

India's poor payment history has risen to the "highest levels of the
United States Government." and Russia thinks its going to get paid by
India by 2007? Russia isn't too familiar with current American
history, huh?

The day after Russia's nuc plant agreement, Enron announces "improper
accounting and reduces its previously reported income going back to
1997 by $566 million." This statement led to a chain reaction that led
to Enron's Dec 02 bankruptcy court filing seeking protection from its
creditors.

Hey somebody call Russia's energy bureau and tell them yesterday's
Tamil Nadu plan may not be such a great deal after all?

Actually Enron's last 2 quarters was.. proper accounting.

On the 8th, Rubin and Fischer join the "I didn't lift a finger for
Enron club".

Darnit, those employees are still locked-out of their accounts too.

The same day Rubin and Fischer bail, President Bush gets an email
tagged "Importance High":

"President Bush cannot talk about Dabhol."

On the 13th of November 2001, President Bush signed the order
establishing military tribunals and James Daniel Watkins' (consultant
to Arthur Anderson) body disappears.

It looks like Bush's tribunals have already started.

Watkin's body is found on December 01 .

Notice the so-called "liberal media" didn't jump all over this one?

On the 14th of Nov., Kenneth Lay acknowledges that "Enron made
billions of dollars of very bad investments".

This is 5 days before Enron shares are unfrozen so this can't possibly
help the value of those holdings very much.

Russia's Rosatom will be making this same announcement regarding its
Tamil Nadu and Iran Nuc plant projects sometime after Oct 23, 2007.

By the way you should all pick up a copy of the New York Times every
day for two weeks starting on the above date.

http://www.legatus.org/public/index.asp

Note the "Spiritual pilgrimage".

This is when the "executive compensation" takes its trip to Rome.

The checks clear on the 23rd.

The media debasement begins on the 24th.

Scan the NYT for comments made by a Texas stock analyst by the name of
"David Tice" regarding "improper accounting" at a certain company (my
guess: a telco and/or a "popular private equity firm").

Advice: Shift holdings from the sector with the negative press over to
energy then bail from energy and move to healthcare for a while then
get out of that before the new administration makes some kind of
depressing Medicare change announcement.

Lets backtrack a second.

Remember Bush's "Importance High" email?

On September 09, the day after the email was sent, Mr. Lay called
O'Neill again, supposedly warning of parallels between Enron's
impending collapse and the Long Term Capital Management failure.

Here we go again.

Ask yourself, why would 29 executives who just cashed out of $1
billion want Enron's stock to go higher?

So, in yet another Shakespearean move, Kenneth Lay pretends to suggest
that "a bailout may be in order".

O'Neill asks Mr. Fischer, the undersecretary, to analyze what an Enron
collapse would mean for the markets.

Remember what I was saying about day 1 of Q3, 2001?

Lets take a look at the "unlikely" events of Q2, 2001.

As of April 01 2001 (Day1, Q2) Jeff Skilling had served as CEO of
Enron for about 1 month.

Arthur Anderson's CEO, Joseph Berardino is into his second month as a
member of the Legatus chapter near his home in Greenwich, Conn., and
Berardino is also into his second month as head of Arthur Anderson
Worldwide, SC (Arthur Anderson's umbrella organization) and George
Herbert Walker Bush is elected Chairman of the M.D. Anderson Cancer
Center's Board of Visitors.

This is the Enron health-care connection and the reason I make
references to the healthcare monopolist's piggy-bank known as Medicare
so often.

On Christmas Eve 2002, not a creature was stirring as the Wall Street
Journal (while we were busy wrapping presents) printed the following
article headlined:

"Double Trouble"

"Ties to Two Firms Tainted by Scandal Haunt Top Doctor"

"A Director at Enron, ImClone, John Mendelsohn Sparked Fireball at His
Hospital"

"Dilemma for Houston's Elite"

"HOUSTON"
"When news of the insider trading scandal at ImClone Systems Inc.
broke in January, it stunned the elites of this city. One of their
own, John Mendelsohn, president of the famed M.D. Anderson Cancer
Center here, sat on the board of ImClone. What's more, Dr. Mendelsohn
was also on the board of another company in the midst of a notorious
meltdown."

"Not this! Not on top of Enron!" Charles Miller, chairman of the state
body that governs M.D. Anderson recalls thinking. "Now John is in
serious trouble."

"Dr. Mendolsohn may be the only person with official ties to two of
the companies most widely associated with the financial crimes of the
new millennium. That set off a scramble over Dr. Mendelsohn's fate
among Houston's leading power-players, including the chairman of
Anderson's advisory board, former President George Herbert Walker
Bush."

Christmas Eve.. in fact.. the whole week between Christmas and New
Years Day is a publisher's laundry period. As an investor, it is well
worth one's money to purchase the WSJ during this rare media exposure
of financial laundry. Another popular laundry day is Valentine's Day.

You may notice that the "investigative" journalist from the WSJ, Kurt
Eichenwald does not make any mention of Dr. Mendelsohn or M.D.
Anderson in his New York Times Best Seller "Conspiracy of Fools".
Eichenwald also makes no reference to the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission nor does he mention Frank Savage's ethics policy
suspensions or Toffler (the ethics advisor,) but he does mention the
potential role of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

In Q1 and Q2 of 2001.. as Lay and Skilling are making electricity
cheaper in Mumbai, India.. they are making electricity disappear.. in
California .

The first week of April, Clinton makes his phony (give Enron its money
or nobody will ever invest in your country again) trip to India and
Richard Celeste ends his post as U.S. Ambassador to India. Celeste
also served as a director of HealthSouth Corp.

If you think the Enron story is interesting so far.. wait until you
hear the HealthSouth story.

So, in April, 2001, Jeff Skilling calls Richard Grubman of Highfield
Capital an a__ hole because Grubman questions why the company's
balance sheet wasn't available when the quarterly earnings were
released.

Again: This is the last quarter that Arthur Anderson cooks Enron's
books.

Now here is a funny one. On the 23rd of April, Warren Buffett said he
plans to invest over $10 billion in utilities if Congress repeals a 66
year-old law enacted to curb abuses in the energy industry.

Now what are the odds that Warren Buffett didn't know that the SEC had
freed Enron from registering under this very same law (the Public
Utility Holding Company Act; PUHCA) shortly after the first bombing of
the WTC in 1993 which is also the same year Wendy Gramm and Sherron
Watkins joined Enron and the also the same year Arthur Anderson took
over Enron's internal audit operation?

Common Warren.. give us a break.

Three days after Buffett pretends he doesn't get it, Kenneth Lay and
President Bush attend that infamous literacy fund raiser hosted by
former First Lady Barbara Bush.

Remember? Bush said it was the last time he spoke to Lay?

There was a reason for that. And that reason was because they
realized that should be the last time they can be connected.

"literacy?"

The MBA President and former Harken Energy executive, should have
asked Kenneth: "When are you going to stop cooking your books? And did
you hear global power producer AES just announced its first quarter
profit has plunged by 60% and what is up with those rolling blackouts
in California and did you hear about the whistle-blower over at
Dynegy's Project Alpha?"

Let me distract your attention for a second and mention that it is
April 30th 2001 and Chandra Levy makes the last appearance at her
Washington D.C. health club.

Its now May and J. Clifford Baxter quits the Enron energy firm.. but
Watson doesn't blow a whistle to Lay for three more months?

Now here is a guy who didn't have any faith in the system.

For those political witch-hunters out there, here is a partisan bone
for you to chew on.

It is late Q2 and India's Dabhol plant is now "on-line" and India
stops paying its Enron bills one more time.. just before Karl Rove
sells his Enron holdings in June.

Talk about timing.

What the heck did he know.. and what do the rest of the newly-minted
Enron millionaires have planned for America in Q3 2001?

May 2nd 2001: President George Bush pretends like he had never heard
of something called energy trading (even though the top 60 utility
companies in the nation were doing it) and orders all federal agencies
in California to cut power use in an effort to find a solution to the
state's energy crisis.

On May 9th, The Street.com posts one of the first articles publicly
discussing Enron's suspicious financial transactions

8 days later the terminator, Kenneth Lay and Michael Milken meet at
the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles to formulate a phony scheme to make
it seem like Gray Davis is the cause of California's energy
manipulation (as if Gray Davis doesn't know how the game works).

The following day, Saudi Arabia announces that it "picked eight
companies to participate in three projects that are expected to total
$25 billion over several years". Included are Exxon Mobil Corp.,
Royal Dutch Shell Group, BP, TotalFinaElf, and Enron Corp., the only
non-oil company chosen." Gotta get that gas to India's power-plants
somehow otherwise how are we going to transfer those Silicon Valley
jobs to Mumbia?

Enron even fooled Saudi Arabia and Crown Prince Abdullah?

Get outta here.

Two days later a California poll finds that President Bush is faring
far better then Gov. Davis amid the state's power crisis. The same
day, a Mumbia, India poll finds that Bush is faring far better then
Gov. Davis amid Maharashtra state's power surplus.

The next day on the 22nd of May, as if the California Attorney General
Bill Lockyer doesn't know how the energy trading game is played,
Lockyer blames Reliant and Enron and Lay, personally saying he would
"love to escort Lay to a 8 x 10 cell that he could share with a
tattooed dude who says "Hi, my name is Spike, Honey."

Electricity? "Spike" get it?

Doesn't Lockyer know Enron's "problems don't start" until December?

At this point there are a lot of people that are onto Enron's games
but Sharron Watkins (the whistle-blower) hasn't even entered the
picture yet.

It is now June.. and it is the last month Enron accountants cook their
books so if you are thinking about selling your shares at a profit,
this month would be the last opportunity.

June Highlights: Louis Freeh steps down.

To put things into perspective.. Freeh presided over the FBI during
"The Era of Greed" while Bristol Meyers Squibb was misstating years of
earnings. Louis now sits on the Board of Bristol Meyers Squibb.

June: Cheney raises Enron concerns over payment of Dabhol energy in
meetings in Washington with India's Congress Party, Sonya Gandhi which
now controls Maharashtra. Again, this is not only pure theatre but in
a little while we find out that Gandhi is actually Italian (the
Indians in the world's largest Democracy were totally taken by
surprise by this one). Sonya had been giving some consideration to
opening a chain of restaurants after she ends her stint in "public
service" called "Gandhi's Traditional Pizza".

June: Karl Rove sells his shares of Enron (this is big money).

June: Kenneth Lay donates 25K to Governor Rick Perry (this is small
money).

Note: In the bigger picture, campaign contributions are "small money"
which is why the "liberal" media and politicians and so-called "watch-
dog" groups focus so much on campaign contributions. Following the
small money makes it appear that somebody is actually following ANY
money. As a rule, if there is "much fanfare" regarding financial
transactions it is either a diversion or it is relatively
insignificant.

Here are three examples:

John Kerry and Enron: The small money that was followed here was
"dividends".

When Monika was getting started with Bill in December of 1995, Heinz
Kerry announced that Kenneth Lay will serve as a member of the Heinz
Center philanthropy, then John Kerry's Heinz family trust bought
between $250,000 and $500,000 worth of Enron's stock.

Do the math.

Enron is trading at $18.00 per share when they buy it and its trading
at about $21.00 per share when they are "reported to" sell it.

$500,000.00 would have bought about 28,000 shares. 28,000 multiplied
by $21.00 is about $588,000.00.

Net Profit: $88,000.00.

So.. both the "liberal" and "conservative" media report that the Heinz-
Kerry ownership and sale of stock brought about $5,000 to $15,000 in
"dividends".

The trivial amount diverted attention from the net profit.

Leave it to the money-counters to assume that the gain in "dividends"
is more significant than the gain in share value.

Martha Stewart and ImClone: The small money that was followed here
was the short term loss.

On the 28th of December 2001, the FDA decided not to approve Erbitux.

The day before the FDA decision.. Martha Stewart sold her 3,928 shares
of ImClone stock.

The Wall Street Journal claimed that by selling "before the news"
Martha avoided a loss of $51,222.00

Did the math.. and this math sounds like Arthur Anderson is around
here somewhere.

ImClone was trading at $75.00 per share ($294,600.00) when she sold.
When the s__t hit the fan in June of 2002 the shares were trading at
$7.00 to $8.00 per share ($31,423.00).

$294,600.00 minus (-) $31,423.00?

It appears Martha avoided a loss of a little bit more than $263,000.00
but then again nobody was actually counting money back then anyway.

I wonder what kind of "a loss" Peter G. Peterson, John Mendelsohn and
George H.W. Bush from M.D. Anderson Cancer Center "avoided"?

Insider trading is one thing.. but insider trading in fictitious
money.. in a corrupt company.. run by a corrupt CEO.. is another.

October 23rd of 2010 is when Sam Waksal.. gets out of prison.

Example #3: George H.W. Bush and Global Crossing: On the 16th of
November 1999, when everyone was expecting the DOW to reach 36,000,
George and Barbara decided to play it safe so they sell their 100,000
shares of Global Crossing for a reported $4.45 million.

These were the shares he got for free for a speech he vomited at in
Japan.

Lets say Global Crossing is reported to have donated $30,000 (small
money) in 1999 to the Bush campaign.

Here is the math the "liberal press" can't seem to compute: What is
$30,000 (small money) subtracted from $4.45 million (big money)?
Actually, even the published amount was wrong since Global Crossing
was trading at $52.00 per share at the time of the sale.

Rush Limbaugh got the Terry "Global Crossing" McCullife part right but
he never made any references to Barbara or George "Global Crossing"
Bush?

Half of history and half of the facts have always been good enough for
the King and his Court.

The big money is in corporate holdings in corrupt companies. Follow
the big money.. not the small money.

Back to events in June just before Enron starts counting their money
accurately in Q3:

Sami al Arian and some 130 other Muslims attend a White House meeting
with President Bush.

In June of 2000, Sami al Arian was campaigning for George Bush in
Florida (this would be during the war we supposedly didn't know was
going on at the time).

I'll be writing on a mishap in 1999 often referred to as the "U.S.S
Cole bombing" to put this Muslim meeting and many other unlikely
events in 1999 into clearer perspective.

Suffice it to say, at this point in time there should have been a
U.S.S. Cole mindset among government leaders.

On the first of June the "Premium Processing Program" begins.

Foreign celebrities, athletes, executives, and other types of workers
will be able to pay $1,000 to get work-visa applications processed
within 15 days instead of the usual 3 months or more.

3 months?

Isn't that a business quarter?

Remember: The function of all government is to pretend to fail.

So wouldn't you know it.. the "visa express" program expedites the
entry of both Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhamzi.

Let me get this straight. The agencies responsible for keeping
Americans safe from foreign terrorists were having such a difficult
time gathering, assembling, and coordinating information from visa
holders for approval within a waiting period of "three months or more"
they decide to shorten the approval period to 15 days?

One would think that after seeing the August 6 2001 document: "Bin
Laden Determined To Attack Inside The United States" Condoleezza Rice
would have suggesting suspending the new "Premium Processing Program"?

On the 18th of June, the FBI pulls agents investigating the bombing of
the U.S.S. Cole out of Yemen due to a "specific and credible" threat
against them.

Two days later, Yemen arrests 15 people suspected of plotting to bomb
the U.S. Embassy in Sanna. Meanwhile, a reported recruitment
videotape from Osama bin Laden's group claims responsibility for the
Cole bombing and is viewed by the AP in Kuwait.

The next day the INS announces that it "has no plans to actively
target H-1B workers for deportation". The INS spokeswoman says she
"doesn't know of any H-1B workers who have been deported simply
because they have lost their jobs."

The "most recent" contact between Kenneth Lay and Dick Cheney occurs
at a conference on the 24th of June.

To try to help Enron collect a $64 million debt from Dabhol, on June
27th Cheney lobbies India's opposition leader, Sonia Gandhi on behalf
of Enron shortly after the Cheney energy task force specifically
recommended promoting energy production in India.

The next day in an attempt to make it look like he doesn't understand
the book-cooking energy business either, the Wall Street Journal's
Daniel Pearl, writes "AES Expresses Interest In Enron's India Project"
.... "AES offers to buyout troubled electricity venture. Dabhol hasn't
produced power for more than a month".

Those bumbling fools at AES. Dabhol isn't paying Enron.. why would
they pay AES?

As if India was ever expected to pay Enron?

The same day of Pearl's piece, Bush names Elliot Abrams to the top
national security post and the Supreme Court rules 5-4 that immigrants
who commit crimes can't be held in prison indefinitely, if the U.S.
can't deport them.

Huh? Its that damn ACLU I tell ya!

It seems like the "A" in ACLU might stand for.. "Arab"?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Remember the words: "racial profiling".

...

Enron's second business quarter is over.

July 01, 2001: This is the first day of the first quarter that Enron
counts its money honestly.. since 1993.

Eventually every financial scam comes to a point where it needs to
invoke its exit plan.

What is Enron's exit plan?

July 01, 2001: California Senator Diane Feinstein who is on the
Intelligence Committee warns CNN "Intelligence staff tell me that
there is a major probability of a terrorist incident within the next
three months.

Next three months?

Isn't that a business quarter?


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On Oct 17, 8:26 am, wrote:
wrote:
PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:


Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2


or


s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)


Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2


Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds


Proposition 3:
You're just another discredited 911 conspiracy kook.


But as physics prof Steven Jones and others have mentioned, this is a matter
of physics. If momentum had been conserved, the 47-floor collapse might have
taken 27 vs 6 seconds.

Nick- Hide quoted text -

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Which it did. Not sure of the 27 but it did take more than 6
seconds. That idiotic 'free fall' has been debunked repeatedly over
the past 6 years. It has been used for the WTC 1 & 2 also even while
films show things falling past the building while it is collapsing.
Kooks will believe anything.

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On Oct 17, 7:10 am, wrote:
Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.


snip stupidity

Take it over to alt.conspiracy. I suspect you were probably driven
out of there.

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Harry K wrote:

... If momentum had been conserved, the 47-floor collapse might have
taken 27 vs 6 seconds.


Which it did.


Wrong. Watch the video.

Nick

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Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds


We must be getting close to another election.
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Do you know why you havent been abducted and whisked off to detention
in some god-forsaken place?

BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!



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Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.


Truther Whack Job ****-For-Brains.

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I agree. Conspiracy kooks do exist.
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Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here...



Like you said, "Most people don't know that there were actually 3
buildings which came crashing down on the day of 9/11."

So why did they bother?!?
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:10:04 -0700, wrote:

Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds


Let's assume that a demo team somehow got in the towers to rip open
insulation, cut some beams and install trip and guide wires all over the
buildings along with the explosives...and their work went unnoticed.

What do you think happens to explosives in the high heat of burning jet
fuel? Do you think they calmly wait for the computerized sequence to send
signals through the trip wires? Oops, the trip wires are melted and the
explosives start to go off out of sequence because of the heat, which would
kind of screw up the controlled demolition theory.

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Rocinante wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:10:04 -0700, wrote:

Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds


Let's assume that a demo team somehow got in the towers to rip open
insulation, cut some beams and install trip and guide wires all over the
buildings along with the explosives...and their work went unnoticed.

What do you think happens to explosives in the high heat of burning jet
fuel? Do you think they calmly wait for the computerized sequence to send
signals through the trip wires? Oops, the trip wires are melted and the
explosives start to go off out of sequence because of the heat, which would
kind of screw up the controlled demolition theory.


You only need to rig the one floor below the center of the stack. The
pancaking effect will take care of the building.

Whadaya think? Three guys and about two hours?


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