Dear Readers,
My Burnham MPO boiler was installed in August. I've an indirect water
heater attached as well. The domestic hot water works fine and heats
up on demand as expected. Now that heating season has begun, I find
hydronic system with very very weak heat output. The new circulator
is running fine. The manual says there is a 15degree differential
between the "high limit setting" and a call for boiler ignition. I
see the high limit is set at 200F. I raise the thermostat to call for
heat, but I watch the boiler thermometer go down to under 90deg F and
never come on. The only way it does come on is if I run the hot water
too.

Any ideas or suggestions on what is wrong would be appreciated.

Regards,
Anthony Falcone

wrote:

Dear Readers,
My Burnham MPO boiler was installed in August. I've an indirect water
heater attached as well. The domestic hot water works fine and heats
up on demand as expected. Now that heating season has begun, I find
hydronic system with very very weak heat output. The new circulator
is running fine. The manual says there is a 15degree differential
between the "high limit setting" and a call for boiler ignition. I
see the high limit is set at 200F. I raise the thermostat to call for
heat, but I watch the boiler thermometer go down to under 90deg F and
never come on. The only way it does come on is if I run the hot water
too.

Any ideas or suggestions on what is wrong would be appreciated.

Regards,
Anthony Falcone

Hi,
Air in the system?

Air in the system?- Hide quoted text -

I bled everything more than once. Don't think that's the case as I
hear the circulator running smoothly with water.

Call nother dealr for warranty service


On Oct 17, 5:44 am, wrote:
Air in the system?- Hide quoted text -

I bled everything more than once. Don't think that's the case as I
hear the circulator running smoothly with water.

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Dear Readers,
My Burnham MPO boiler was installed in August. I've an indirect water
heater attached as well. The domestic hot water works fine and heats
up on demand as expected. Now that heating season has begun, I find
hydronic system with very very weak heat output. The new circulator
is running fine. The manual says there is a 15degree differential
between the "high limit setting" and a call for boiler ignition. I
see the high limit is set at 200F. I raise the thermostat to call for
heat, but I watch the boiler thermometer go down to under 90deg F and
never come on. The only way it does come on is if I run the hot water
too.

Any ideas or suggestions on what is wrong would be appreciated.

Regards,
Anthony Falcone


What's the installing dealer have to say?

What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

wrote in message
ups.com...
What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

Call around to the various suppliers for that particular boiler, and tell
them whats going on. Ask them if they know what happened to the installer.
Also ask them who's the best tech they got and go from there.
No its not gonna be free, and probably not gonna be cheap. Just consider it
the offset between the lowest bidder, and having it done by a *competent*,
licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician.

On Oct 17, 8:44 am, "Noon-Air" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com... What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

Call around to the various suppliers for that particular boiler, and tell
them whats going on. Ask them if they know what happened to the installer.
Also ask them who's the best tech they got and go from there.
No its not gonna be free, and probably not gonna be cheap. Just consider it
the offset between the lowest bidder, and having it done by a *competent*,
licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician.
Why not try Burnham first, you have a warranty.

"ransley" wrote in message
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On Oct 17, 8:44 am, "Noon-Air" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com... What's
the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

Call around to the various suppliers for that particular boiler, and
tell
them whats going on. Ask them if they know what happened to the
installer.
Also ask them who's the best tech they got and go from there.
No its not gonna be free, and probably not gonna be cheap. Just consider
it
the offset between the lowest bidder, and having it done by a
*competent*,
licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician.
Why not try Burnham first, you have a warranty.


Burnham will refer him to a Dealer, Period.

why don't you pay him a visit go there and find out what is going on

wrote in message
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What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

wrote in message
ups.com...
What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.


Was he the cheapest guy you could find?

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wrote in message
ups.com...
What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.


Was he the cheapest guy you could find?


In other words you have nothing to say about helping solve the problem but
you feel free to attack the original poster by assuming that his choice
was
price driven. Most definitely abusive.

Now you'll come back with an attack on me. It never fails. I post and you
dance. You'll just have to dance some more monkey boi. Dance boi, dance.


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there should be a "sig" here


Asking questions is now 'abusive'...
Boy, you're one clueless mother ****er.

I feel like abusing you a little...
What content of your post 'helped' the original poster?

Now you can post a clueless reply as always.

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message
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"Clark" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.


Was he the cheapest guy you could find?


In other words you have nothing to say about helping solve the problem
but
you feel free to attack the original poster by assuming that his choice
was
price driven. Most definitely abusive.

Now you'll come back with an attack on me. It never fails. I post and you
dance. You'll just have to dance some more monkey boi. Dance boi, dance.


--
---
there should be a "sig" here


Asking questions is now 'abusive'...
Boy, you're one clueless mother ****er.

I feel like abusing you a little...
What content of your post 'helped' the original poster?

Now you can post a clueless reply as always.

Dammit Kenny, quit feeding the trolls

"Clark" wrote in message
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"Clark" wrote in message
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@STARBAND.NET:


wrote in message
ups.com...
What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.


Was he the cheapest guy you could find?


In other words you have nothing to say about helping solve the problem
but
you feel free to attack the original poster by assuming that his choice
was
price driven. Most definitely abusive.

Now you'll come back with an attack on me. It never fails. I post and
you
dance. You'll just have to dance some more monkey boi. Dance boi,
dance.


--
---
there should be a "sig" here


Asking questions is now 'abusive'...
Boy, you're one clueless mother ****er.

I feel like abusing you a little...
What content of your post 'helped' the original poster?

Now you can post a clueless reply as always.

As usual you deny instead of attempting to understand.


It's not my job to understand people with mental problems.
You should seek out a professional psychiatrist.

Meat Plow posted for all of us...

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:44:02 -0700, anthonymmfalcone wrote:

What's the installing dealer have to say?-

He's, literally, unresposive. May have gone out of business, or may
be exceedingly unprofessional to not reply after 3 phone calls over
the course of a month.

Take a drive to the dealer's place of business and demand to see him/her.


He should be easy to spot: clapped out bondo Pinto wagon hooptie with used
parts in cardboard box, ladder on roof bigger than hooptie, broken jamb
material and majik undies fluttering from a loose piece of trim.
--
Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service.

It sounds like the indirect is the only control wired to fire the boiler.
For the boiler to maintain tank temperature, it should have a control on it
with two settings. High limit cutout, and low limit cut in. Some boilers
only have a high limit cutout. These are cold start boilers. They depend on
a control circuit from the indirect's aquastat and the circulator relay's
auxiliary switch, to fire the boiler. It's possible that the heating part of
the system wasn't properly connected to do this. Not knowing the controls
you have on the boiler, I can only make these assumptions, but if you could
provide pictures, I'm sure I and others can figure this out



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Dear Readers,
My Burnham MPO boiler was installed in August. I've an indirect water
heater attached as well. The domestic hot water works fine and heats
up on demand as expected. Now that heating season has begun, I find
hydronic system with very very weak heat output. The new circulator
is running fine. The manual says there is a 15degree differential
between the "high limit setting" and a call for boiler ignition. I
see the high limit is set at 200F. I raise the thermostat to call for
heat, but I watch the boiler thermometer go down to under 90deg F and
never come on. The only way it does come on is if I run the hot water
too.

Any ideas or suggestions on what is wrong would be appreciated.

Regards,
Anthony Falcone

On Oct 17, 12:16 am, wrote:
Dear Readers,
My Burnham MPO boiler was installed in August. I've an indirect water
heater attached as well. The domestic hot water works fine and heats
up on demand as expected. Now that heating season has begun, I find
hydronic system with very very weak heat output. The new circulator
is running fine. The manual says there is a 15degree differential
between the "high limit setting" and a call for boiler ignition. I
see the high limit is set at 200F. I raise the thermostat to call for
heat, but I watch the boiler thermometer go down to under 90deg F and
never come on. The only way it does come on is if I run the hot water
too.

Any ideas or suggestions on what is wrong would be appreciated.

Regards,
Anthony Falcone

In the end, the DHW was properly wired to the relay. However, the
hydronic heat loop was not so properly wired. Furthermore, there was
a TON of air in the system and we had to bleed it out about 5 times
over 3days.

Thanks very much to all for the advice.
Regards,
-Anthony Falcone