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I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about
36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. |
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on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following:
I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"willshak" wrote in message ... on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). Well like I said the numbers aren't important, besides the stud spacing in my house isn't consistent enough to rely on. It'll all get measured out when I build the rack. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Jul 22, 2:28 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote:
"willshak" wrote in message ... on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). Well like I said the numbers aren't important, besides the stud spacing in my house isn't consistent enough to rely on. It'll all get measured out when I build the rack. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ EV- IMO molly toggles & molly bolts suck. They're a PITA to work with, I hatethem, never use them. I think your weight estimate ( 50 lbs) is good. SO even if you only use three screws the withdrawl load on the center screw (worst case) is less than 25 lbs. I would use plastic wall anchors, I know they're not all that strong but the loads in your situation are pretty low. OR use threaded drywall anchors (plastic or zinc); quick, easy, strong http://www.artistcraft.com/Sealants/Anchors_Bits/210 Mollys are overkill for you application; too much work & harder to remove & patch cheers Bob |
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"BobK207" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 22, 2:28 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote: "willshak" wrote in message ... on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). Well like I said the numbers aren't important, besides the stud spacing in my house isn't consistent enough to rely on. It'll all get measured out when I build the rack. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ EV- IMO molly toggles & molly bolts suck. They're a PITA to work with, I hatethem, never use them. I think your weight estimate ( 50 lbs) is good. SO even if you only use three screws the withdrawl load on the center screw (worst case) is less than 25 lbs. I would use plastic wall anchors, I know they're not all that strong but the loads in your situation are pretty low. Personally, I find most plastic wall anchors are made of cheap slippery plastic and easily slide out of drywall. Anchors that spread the load behind the drywall, I find best for taking weight. |
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On Jul 22, 3:58 pm, "EXT" wrote:
"BobK207" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 22, 2:28 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote: "willshak" wrote in message ... on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). Well like I said the numbers aren't important, besides the stud spacing in my house isn't consistent enough to rely on. It'll all get measured out when I build the rack. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ EV- IMO molly toggles & molly bolts suck. They're a PITA to work with, I hatethem, never use them. I think your weight estimate ( 50 lbs) is good. SO even if you only use three screws the withdrawl load on the center screw (worst case) is less than 25 lbs. I would use plastic wall anchors, I know they're not all that strong but the loads in your situation are pretty low. Personally, I find most plastic wall anchors are made of cheap slippery plastic and easily slide out of drywall. Anchors that spread the load behind the drywall, I find best for taking weight. Plastic anchors are indeed made of "cheap slippery plastic" but they do not easy slip out of drywall IF the correct drill size is used AND the correct screw size is used. Correctly installed, the anchor spreads & grips the drywall...never had pull out problem with them as long as the loads were reasonable. cheers Bob |
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EXT wrote:
I would use plastic wall anchors, I know they're not all that strong but the loads in your situation are pretty low. Personally, I find most plastic wall anchors are made of cheap slippery plastic and easily slide out of drywall. Anchors that spread the load behind the drywall, I find best for taking weight. You and just about everyone else. Specifically, molly bolts, not toggle bolts. A couple of those should easily hold your shelf with a 50# load. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"BobK207" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 22, 2:28 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote: "willshak" wrote in message ... on 7/22/2007 4:28 PM Eigenvector said the following: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. Where do you live? Here in the US, studs are usually 16" on center (or 24") which would be 48" for three studs (48" for 2 studs 24" OC). Well like I said the numbers aren't important, besides the stud spacing in my house isn't consistent enough to rely on. It'll all get measured out when I build the rack. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ EV- IMO molly toggles & molly bolts suck. They're a PITA to work with, I hatethem, never use them. I think your weight estimate ( 50 lbs) is good. SO even if you only use three screws the withdrawl load on the center screw (worst case) is less than 25 lbs. I would use plastic wall anchors, I know they're not all that strong but the loads in your situation are pretty low. OR use threaded drywall anchors (plastic or zinc); quick, easy, strong http://www.artistcraft.com/Sealants/Anchors_Bits/210 Mollys are overkill for you application; too much work & harder to remove & patch cheers Bob I've never actually used a moly bolt. I can see how they'd be a bear to patch and use, but my experience with plastic anchors is pretty ugly. I can try what you have there, also perhaps may try those drywall toggles - they seem a bit more solid - but probably won't work as well if there's insulation behind the wall. I know it's not a lot of weight per screw - I'm thinking 4 holes myself - so that's less than 15 lbs per hole |
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"Eigenvector" wrote:
I've never actually used a moly bolt. I can see how they'd be a bear to patch and use, but my experience with plastic anchors is pretty ugly. If you take care to drill the right size hole with a new bit, insert the insert flush with the wall, and use the right size screw in the insert (with enough penetration), they hold well. You have to go by the numbers, though, but if done right they are pretty sturdy. Jon |
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Eigenvector wrote:
I've never actually used a moly bolt. I can see how they'd be a bear to patch and use, What's so hard? 1. Drill bolt size holes in whatever you are going to put up. 2. Temporarily put against wall and use bolt holes to mark/drill holes in drywall. 3. Drill holes in DW the diameter of the molly insert 4. Insert mollys 5. Tighten bolt so molly expands behind wall and the collar flange sets slightly into DW 6. Remove bolts 7. Put bolts through what you want to hang. A washer under the head may be needed depending on how big a hole you drilled. 8. Screw bolts into molly inserts If you ever remove your shelf all you need do is swipe a bit of spackle or DW compound over the sunken collar of the molly. Easier than fixing a hole from a plastic insert, lots easier than fixing a large hole from a toggle bolt or the big threaded DW anchors. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"BobK207" wrote in message oups.com... use threaded drywall anchors (plastic or zinc); quick, easy, strong http://www.artistcraft.com/Sealants/Anchors_Bits/210 Yep, these will do just fine. The holding strength is 50 lbs per anchor. They also make ones like these that have swing out hangers in the back that hold 90 lbs per anchor. |
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BobK207 wrote:
Mollys are overkill for you application; too much work & harder to remove & patch One doesn't - can't - remove them if they have been used properly. All that is necessary is a swipe of spackle or DW compound over the slightly sunken collar/flange. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"dadiOH" wrote in message news:Ii0pi.3174$7w.42@trnddc05... BobK207 wrote: Mollys are overkill for you application; too much work & harder to remove & patch One doesn't - can't - remove them if they have been used properly. So you're telling me I can't use a little hole saw and drill around the head so it will fall into the wall? :-) |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:28:04 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. Try using a French cleat (old thread I've read). Building a French Cleat Simple, Strong and Cheap http://www.newwoodworker.com/frenchcleat.html -- Oren "If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me." |
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"Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:28:04 -0700, "Eigenvector" wrote: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. Try using a French cleat (old thread I've read). Building a French Cleat Simple, Strong and Cheap http://www.newwoodworker.com/frenchcleat.html -- Oren Hmm, that's an idea. May be able to incorporate it into the design too. That would also eliminate the need to put a hole in my nice oak boards too! |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:03:46 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:28:04 -0700, "Eigenvector" wrote: I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. Try using a French cleat (old thread I've read). Building a French Cleat Simple, Strong and Cheap http://www.newwoodworker.com/frenchcleat.html -- Oren Hmm, that's an idea. May be able to incorporate it into the design too. That would also eliminate the need to put a hole in my nice oak boards too! Enlarge the pictures for the cabinet back The cleat only needs two holes (1/4 X 3 1/2") lag bolts. And you can move it with "minimal damage". That site limits the cleat to 36".. bottom of page... -- Oren "I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you." |
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"Abe" wrote in message ... I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. If you use molly bolts or toggle bolts you'll be fine. http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/i...infanchor.html That's kind of what I was thinking, but I wanted to check first. |
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"Abe" wrote in message ... I'm planning on mounting an oak DVD rack on my wall, 3 studs wide - about 36" assuming 18" centers. This is just guesswork for now so the numbers aren't that important. Anyway, so I'm going to hang a single shelf 36" oak DVD rack, assume it will be filled with DVD's. The plan is to mount it directly to the studs, but that's not something I can necessarily count on in case I move the rack in the future. So I'm wondering whether or not drywall will be able to hold that much weight if I use drywall anchors. I actually don't know how much it will weigh I'm guessing less than 50 lbs. If you use molly bolts or toggle bolts you'll be fine. http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/i...infanchor.html I would use the "Threaded Drywall Anchors" or the "Threaded Drywall Toggles" from the above link. I have never had one come out... |
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