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It all started when I discovered that I had high radon levels in my
basment.
So I asked someone to install the fan to extract the gas etc. and to
save some money I thought I would caulk the basement cracks myself.
I mean how hard can that be, and so what if it is not the most neat
job, it is in an unfinished concrete basement after all.

Well as with all DIY projects it is not as easy as it looks. The
issue was a crack between the basment concrete wall and the concrete
slab.
This crack varies in size between 1/4 inch to almost zero and extends
all the way round my basement. About 200 feet.

I start by using SikaFlex self leveling crack sealant. This stuff
forms a great seal, but dissapears into a bottom less crack. So after
using two tubes of this stuff on like 10 feet of crack and at $US 5
for a 10 oz tube ... time to regroup.

Read somewhere about foam backing rod. OK. go to Home depot and
locate some ... way to thick for the crack. Settle on some self
adhesive
foam roll sealers for doors and windows. This is thinner and at least
I have a fighting chance in getting it into the cracks. The adhesive
on this stuff is a pain and squeezing it into the crack is slow ...
slow
..... It does work though and I get like 10 feet of crack done in like
2 hours.

There has got to be an easier way. Try some non self leveling crack
sealant.
Polyeurethane PL Concrete and Masonary. This stuff works, but my hand
is falling off.
I bought one of those cheap caulking guns ... bad bad move. Next trip
to
Home Depot buy the best one there is at $US 11. Big difference hand
remains
in resonably good shape after 80 feet of caulking.

This Polyurethane stuff is great sticks to the concrete well .... that
means
it also sticks to hands, face, caulk guns. This stuff gets
everywhere.
Next trip to home depot get some latex gloves. These are well worth
it.


After alot of trial and error, I have finally got the magic formula
correct.

So the magical tips for anyone wanting to seal a concrete basement for
radon
is:

1) Get the best Caulk gun there is. Cost $US 11. Your hand will thank
you.
2) Get two sorts of Caulk:
a) Self Leveling Concrete Caulk, Sikaflex, Polyurethane
b) Polyurethane Concrete Caulk. Non self leveling
3) Latex Gloves
4) White Spirits to wash off caulk mess ....
5) Eye-goggles, safety protection.
6) Vaccum cleaner.

I do not have any basdement water issues so all I am trying to do it
caulk a crack.

Step 1: Vaccum out any loose debris from the crack
Step 2: Caulk using the Non-self leveling caulk first.
If required smooth over with your finger to get as much into
the
crack as you can. This caulk basically stops the self leveling
stuff dissapperaing into the bottom-less void.
Step 3: Go over now with the self leveling sealant. This will close
off
any small holes for a good gas tight fit.
Step 4: If there are any more holes remaining where the self-leveling
sealant dissappears
into, due to a void below. Fill with a dab of the non-self
leveling stuff.

With this technique I found I could make good, if messy progress. Note
that
both caulks are polyeurethane so that you can apply one on top of the
other.
I hope they are sort of compatible. So far so good, never did
extensive checks on this
though.


Good luck, best, Mike.

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It all started when I discovered that I had high radon levels in my
basment.
So I asked someone to install the fan to extract the gas etc. and to
save some money I thought I would caulk the basement cracks myself.
I mean how hard can that be, and so what if it is not the most neat
job, it is in an unfinished concrete basement after all.

Well as with all DIY projects it is not as easy as it looks. The
issue was a crack between the basment concrete wall and the concrete
slab.
This crack varies in size between 1/4 inch to almost zero and extends
all the way round my basement. About 200 feet.

I start by using SikaFlex self leveling crack sealant. This stuff
forms a great seal, but dissapears into a bottom less crack. So after
using two tubes of this stuff on like 10 feet of crack and at $US 5
for a 10 oz tube ... time to regroup.

Read somewhere about foam backing rod. OK. go to Home depot and
locate some ... way to thick for the crack. Settle on some self
adhesive
foam roll sealers for doors and windows. This is thinner and at least
I have a fighting chance in getting it into the cracks. The adhesive
on this stuff is a pain and squeezing it into the crack is slow ...
slow
.... It does work though and I get like 10 feet of crack done in like
2 hours.

There has got to be an easier way. Try some non self leveling crack
sealant.
Polyeurethane PL Concrete and Masonary. This stuff works, but my hand
is falling off.
I bought one of those cheap caulking guns ... bad bad move. Next trip
to
Home Depot buy the best one there is at $US 11. Big difference hand
remains
in resonably good shape after 80 feet of caulking.

This Polyurethane stuff is great sticks to the concrete well .... that
means
it also sticks to hands, face, caulk guns. This stuff gets
everywhere.
Next trip to home depot get some latex gloves. These are well worth
it.

After alot of trial and error, I have finally got the magic formula
correct.

So the magical tips for anyone wanting to seal a concrete basement for
radon
is:

1) Get the best Caulk gun there is. Cost $US 11. Your hand will thank
you.
2) Get two sorts of Caulk:
a) Self Leveling Concrete Caulk, Sikaflex, Polyurethane
b) Polyurethane Concrete Caulk. Non self leveling
3) Latex Gloves
4) White Spirits to wash off caulk mess ....
5) Eye-goggles, safety protection.
6) Vaccum cleaner.

I do not have any basdement water issues so all I am trying to do it
caulk a crack.

Step 1: Vaccum out any loose debris from the crack
Step 2: Caulk using the Non-self leveling caulk first.
If required smooth over with your finger to get as much into
the
crack as you can. This caulk basically stops the self leveling
stuff dissapperaing into the bottom-less void.
Step 3: Go over now with the self leveling sealant. This will close
off
any small holes for a good gas tight fit.
Step 4: If there are any more holes remaining where the self-leveling
sealant dissappears
into, due to a void below. Fill with a dab of the non-self
leveling stuff.

With this technique I found I could make good, if messy progress. Note
that
both caulks are polyeurethane so that you can apply one on top of the
other.
I hope they are sort of compatible. So far so good, never did
extensive checks on this
though.

Good luck, best, Mike.


Aren't you going to hate when someone replies with the words "Never,
ever, seal the crack between the basement slab and the basement
walls."? ;-)

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1) Get the best Caulk gun there is. Cost $US 11. Your hand will thank
you.


[snip]

Ryobi makes a cordless powered caulking gun that uses their standard 18V
battery. I've got mixed reviews on most of their cordless equipment, but I
really like the cordless caulking gun. It's not just that you don't have to
keep squeezing the gun -- caulking is both easier and better quality. My
results are more consistent and a lot smoother and my work is much faster.
I've also found out that some of the professionals in this area are now
using this same item. Regards --


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Ryobi makes a cordless powered caulking gun that uses their standard 18V
battery. I've got mixed reviews on most of their cordless equipment, but
I really like the cordless caulking gun. It's not just that you don't
have to keep squeezing the gun -- caulking is both easier and better
quality. My results are more consistent and a lot smoother and my work is
much faster. I've also found out that some of the professionals in this
area are now using this same item. Regards --


Best thing since warm toast and peanut butter! Many folks simply can't
maintain a nice bead of caulk and pump the handle at the same. Power
caulking is the nuts.


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