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Grease around Stove (Impossible to Remove)
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment
and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick |
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Ask for the stuff Limbaugh reccomends. Greased Lighning. It's lye
and some soap. Much the same as oven cleaner. Definitely needs gloves, lye eats skin. I've had good results with Simple Green. And I like the root beer barrel scent. Nylon scrubby pads, gloves, rinse. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "thehick" wrote in message ps.com... : I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment : and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very : difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing : Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll : try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. : : I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll : make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to : paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, : that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. : : Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick : |
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On 5/1/2007 9:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ask for the stuff Limbaugh reccomends. Greased Lighning. It's lye and some soap. Much the same as oven cleaner. Definitely needs gloves, lye eats skin. snip Must agree. Stuff will remove almost anything. Including skin around fingernails. Find it at $ General. -- Ted I wasn't born in Texas but I got back here as soon as I could (Don't forget to take out the trash) Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. |
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xPosTech wrote:
On 5/1/2007 9:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: Ask for the stuff Limbaugh reccomends. Greased Lighning. It's lye and some soap. Much the same as oven cleaner. Definitely needs gloves, lye eats skin. snip Must agree. Stuff will remove almost anything. Including skin around fingernails. Find it at $ General. Denatured alcohol works great for old, hardened grease as well. -- "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!" Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Dave Bugg wrote:
Denatured alcohol works great for old, hardened grease as well. I've removed polymerized vegetable oil with ethyl alcohol, which is to say roughly, "Yup". |
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On May 1, 8:40 pm, thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick Since you're planning to paint anyway, you could try a paste paint remover. It will soften the paint under the grease, then scrape off the whole mess, then prime and paint. |
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thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick You need a stronger alkaline cleaner. Heavy duty oven cleaner, or undiluted extra strength (10% to 27%) ammonium hydroxide. You can get the ammonia at Ace Hardware for about $2.50 per quart. If you want something cheap and less nasty to work with, you can try washing soda and hot water first. Don't expect it to work, but it's worth a try. I recommend the oven cleaner. Bob |
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On May 1, 11:26 pm, zxcvbob wrote:
thehick wrote: I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick You need a stronger alkaline cleaner. Heavy duty oven cleaner, or undiluted extra strength (10% to 27%) ammonium hydroxide. You can get the ammonia at Ace Hardware for about $2.50 per quart. If you want something cheap and less nasty to work with, you can try washing soda and hot water first. Don't expect it to work, but it's worth a try. I recommend the oven cleaner. Bob thanks for the suggestions. i knew about greased lightning but i haven't seen it yet. i'll try walmart tomorrow. hmmm. alkaline cleaner? is that a clue for me that i've been using the wrong type of cleaner? ....thehick |
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thehick wrote:
On May 1, 11:26 pm, zxcvbob wrote: thehick wrote: I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick You need a stronger alkaline cleaner. Heavy duty oven cleaner, or undiluted extra strength (10% to 27%) ammonium hydroxide. You can get the ammonia at Ace Hardware for about $2.50 per quart. If you want something cheap and less nasty to work with, you can try washing soda and hot water first. Don't expect it to work, but it's worth a try. I recommend the oven cleaner. Bob thanks for the suggestions. i knew about greased lightning but i haven't seen it yet. i'll try walmart tomorrow. hmmm. alkaline cleaner? is that a clue for me that i've been using the wrong type of cleaner? ...thehick You were on the right track with the TSP, but it's not strong enough. You need something that will attack polymerized vegetable oil, and that something is lye. It has gotten almost impossible to buy lye anymore, but heavy duty oven cleaner will contain either lye or some kind of caustic amine chemical that is almost as alkaline and will work. If you try the washing soda, it comes in a big yellow box, and is sometimes hard to find. It's not the same thing as baking soda. It will be next to the borax in the laundry detergent aisle. I probably shouldn't have mentioned the extra strength ammonia because its fumes are so bad. Bob |
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Most alkaline cleaners have the word hydroxide in their list of
ingredients. Lye is sodium hydroxide, for an example. Alkalines turn grease into soap, a process called saponification. It's how folks used to make soap. Lye mixed with animal fats, and then heat. You can do the same, and the resulting soap rinses off the walls easier than dried grease. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "thehick" wrote in message oups.com... : : thanks for the suggestions. i knew about greased lightning but : i haven't seen it yet. i'll try walmart tomorrow. hmmm. : alkaline cleaner? is that a clue for me that i've been : using the wrong type of cleaner? : ...thehick : |
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On May 1, 7:40 pm, thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick Once you have tried the things you said then you are not expected to do anything else, especially on a rental. It's clean enough for paint. I use an oil-based enamel on problem surfaces, a real problem fixer. |
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Had this problem for years on the wallpaper behind the stove. It laughed any
cleaner i tried. Tried a Magic Eraser and water on a whim - frigging amazing - like the finger of God. "thehick" wrote in message ps.com... I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick |
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On 1 May 2007 17:40:30 -0700, thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I just got some stuff at Sam's- says it is for commercial use only- and you definitely want to use gloves. "Proforce"- works wonders on baked on grease- says it is good for ovens, grills, etc. The second ingredient [after water] is Sodium Hydroxide aka lye. Comes in a handy spray bottle. OTOH- its a rental. . .get it close and paint it. Jim |
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In article om, thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick Washing soda. Not baking soda, washing soda. Available in many grocery stores on the same aisle as laundry detergent. When you find the "20-Mule Team Borax", you're getting close. Mix a cup or two of it into a gallon of warm water, and start scrubbing. It's nearly as effective a degreaser as lye, but nowhere nearly as dangerous. Just the same, wear rubber gloves and goggles. You don't want to splash the stuff in your eyes, and without gloves you will soon know the *exact* location of every tiny nick, cut, hangnail, or splinter on your fingers and hands. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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On May 2, 8:30 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article om, thehick wrote: I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick Washing soda. Not baking soda, washing soda. Available in many grocery stores on the same aisle as laundry detergent. When you find the "20-Mule Team Borax", you're getting close. I understand. Tomorrow. Today I tried full-strength Dunk which usually cleans my engine pretty well. No effect on the greasy walls! I checked Rona and Walmart and couldn't find any lye. Got some oven cleaner. Tomorrow I'll go to Sam's Club and check their cleaning aisle. Gonna look for Washing Soda and something-hydroxide. thanks to all for bearing with me on this mission...thehick |
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A question of how to remove grease was asked and to this I say:
Try fresh vegetable oil. Just take corn oil, canola,peanut or what have on A rag and massage the walls. The new stuff liquefies the old oil and grease than after it is liquified it can be removed with any household cleaner. I have not tried this on on drywall but it works on hard surfaces like stove tops and counters so it should work on plaster. Good Luck! H.R. |
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Simple Green. Start with a 25 % solution in w hot repeat hot water. If that doesnt work, go to 50 % solution. In hot water. Let it sit / stand whatever on surface for 5 - 10 ,imutes. Rinse with hot water. Use A LOT of dry loth towels to soak up dirty water. thehick wrote: I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick |
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On 1 May 2007 17:40:30 -0700, thehick wrote:
I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick When I moved into my house, I found parts of my stove too greasy. I thought nothing was working, but the truth was it was working, greenie with tough detergent. Just that it was removing layers of grease, but there was many, many layers of grease. After a while I won. tom @ www.MeetANewFriend.com |
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Just Joshin wrote:
On 1 May 2007 17:40:30 -0700, thehick wrote: I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick What is on the walls .. paint, tile, paper? If the surface is very smoothe, a razor-blade scraper can get the heavy stuff. Mineral spirits can cut grease. Fantastic and a green scrubber for the rest. If either of these take the paint with the grease, the grease has dried and been on the wall too long. Might want to think about tile or Formica just to keep it easier to clean. |
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What is on the walls .. paint, tile, paper? If the surface is very smoothe, a razor-blade scraper can get the heavy stuff. Mineral spirits can cut grease. Fantastic and a green scrubber for the rest. If either of these take the paint with the grease, the grease has dried and been on the wall too long. Might want to think about tile or Formica just to keep it easier to clean. i have easy-off oven cleaner to try still. probably this coming week i'll get to it. i'll check the kitchen section at home depot to see what wall coverings i can use. maybe i can just get a couple of pieces of formica and attach them covering everything. and making future cleaning simple. thanks for that idea. ....thehick |
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thehick wrote:
... What is on the walls .. paint, tile, paper? If the surface is very smoothe, a razor-blade scraper can get the heavy stuff. Mineral spirits can cut grease. Fantastic and a green scrubber for the rest. If either of these take the paint with the grease, the grease has dried and been on the wall too long. Might want to think about tile or Formica just to keep it easier to clean. i have easy-off oven cleaner to try still. probably this coming week i'll get to it. i'll check the kitchen section at home depot to see what wall coverings i can use. maybe i can just get a couple of pieces of formica and attach them covering everything. and making future cleaning simple. thanks for that idea. ...thehick Oven cleaner is a poor choice, even for ovens ) If you have a hard, flat surface, the razor scraper will get built-up hard grease. Fantastic has always worked very well on kitchen grease for me, but shouldn't be used on glass. If there is no vent hood, installing one would help immensely. |
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i have easy-off oven cleaner to try still. Ok. Easy-Off did the trick. Some parts came off RIGHT AWAY! Some just got better. So a little scraping with a putty knife and some more Easy-Off should do it. Thanks to all for the suggestions. Some stuff is difficult to source here in Canada (like Greased Lightning). ....thehick |
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On May 1, 7:40 pm, thehick wrote:
Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick Mineral spirits, regular, not the low odor stuff. |
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No one has suggested a steam cleaner yet. A bit on the expensive side for a
solution..... "thehick" wrote in message ps.com... I am cleaning up a rental (you know what that means) apartment and the grease on the walls around the stove is proving very difficult to remove. Tried: Baking Soda, TSP, Dishwashing Detergent, Bleach, WD40, Lysol, Spray Nine. Tomorrow I'll try Dunk (automotive degreaser). It just isn't coming off. I guess I could scrape it too and then sand it but that'll make an unholy dusty mess of the kitchen. We want to paint the whole apartment so if the paint comes off, that's OK too. Underneath is probably plaster. Not drywall. Any other suggestions? thanks...thehick |
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