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I'm trying to repair an 8" circle cut out of a textured ceiling in our
kitchen.
I've been testing with joint compound to try and reproduce the texture.
Dragging a wire brush to reproduce the random swirls that are in the
original then dabbing the compound with a dry brush gives a pretty good
pattern.
The difference looks like the original had something in the paint to give it
the texture. What I do with a brush leaves little peaks in the compound.
Close but not the same. I tried mixing sand in the compound but it looked
worse. Something coarser than the fine sand I used might work? I foolishly
tried kitty litter. It was about the right size but the absorbency just made
it turn to a blob of mud.

I haven't tried buying textured paint yet. I see different types of spray on
texture at HD. I may experiment a little with that. Do they sell paint with
something in it that gives it a texture?
My guess is there are many variations and matching what was used on my
ceiling may be a problem.
Still It may be closer than my compound attempt?

My plan is to try and patch the hole. simulate the texture as best I can.
Then because I most likely wont get a perfect match I was thinking I could
then go over the whole ceiling with a textured paint?
This would hopefully blend with the original texture and the patch texture
making the patch less obvious..
Like I said, I've never used texture paint so I don't know if this plan is
feasible?
Is it ok to put one kind of texture paint over a preexisting texture?
I would test in a closet first...


Thanks if you can offer any advice???

I don't want to sheet rock and put up a new ceiling. I'll live with the
patch before I go to that trouble!
I just want to make it look as good as possible,,


Steve


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I'm trying to repair an 8" circle cut out of a textured ceiling in our
kitchen.
I've been testing with joint compound to try and reproduce the texture.
Dragging a wire brush to reproduce the random swirls that are in the
original then dabbing the compound with a dry brush gives a pretty good
pattern.
The difference looks like the original had something in the paint to give it
the texture. What I do with a brush leaves little peaks in the compound.
Close but not the same. I tried mixing sand in the compound but it looked
worse. Something coarser than the fine sand I used might work? I foolishly
tried kitty litter. It was about the right size but the absorbency just made
it turn to a blob of mud.

I haven't tried buying textured paint yet. I see different types of spray on
texture at HD. I may experiment a little with that. Do they sell paint with
something in it that gives it a texture?


I just did this in my living room. The existing texture looked like
it was brushed with a whisk broom into swirls and then flattened down
a bit.

There was a 10 foot area that still showed some indication that a wall
had been removed and not well patched.

They sell a paint that is like thick paint or thin spackle for
texturing.

I had a lot of trouble matching what was up there but I'd call
my effort a success. It took many tries.

I tried sand paint, that didn't work at all.
I think it really depends on what you are trying to match.
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THANKS DAN!
we are about to remove a wall and will be faced with the same problem.

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"steve" writes:

I'm trying to repair an 8" circle cut out of a textured ceiling in our
kitchen.
I've been testing with joint compound to try and reproduce the texture.
Dragging a wire brush to reproduce the random swirls that are in the
original then dabbing the compound with a dry brush gives a pretty good
pattern.
The difference looks like the original had something in the paint to give
it
the texture. What I do with a brush leaves little peaks in the compound.
Close but not the same. I tried mixing sand in the compound but it looked
worse. Something coarser than the fine sand I used might work? I
foolishly
tried kitty litter. It was about the right size but the absorbency just
made
it turn to a blob of mud.

I haven't tried buying textured paint yet. I see different types of spray
on
texture at HD. I may experiment a little with that. Do they sell paint
with
something in it that gives it a texture?


I just did this in my living room. The existing texture looked like
it was brushed with a whisk broom into swirls and then flattened down
a bit.

There was a 10 foot area that still showed some indication that a wall
had been removed and not well patched.

They sell a paint that is like thick paint or thin spackle for
texturing.

I had a lot of trouble matching what was up there but I'd call
my effort a success. It took many tries.

I tried sand paint, that didn't work at all.
I think it really depends on what you are trying to match.



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THANKS DAN!
we are about to remove a wall and will be faced with the same problem.

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BOYCOTT THE CHINA OLYMPICS!
(China which has extensive business and oil ties to Sudan)


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"steve" writes:

I'm trying to repair an 8" circle cut out of a textured ceiling in our
kitchen.
I've been testing with joint compound to try and reproduce the texture.
Dragging a wire brush to reproduce the random swirls that are in the
original then dabbing the compound with a dry brush gives a pretty good
pattern.
The difference looks like the original had something in the paint to
give it
the texture. What I do with a brush leaves little peaks in the compound.
Close but not the same. I tried mixing sand in the compound but it
looked
worse. Something coarser than the fine sand I used might work? I
foolishly
tried kitty litter. It was about the right size but the absorbency just
made
it turn to a blob of mud.

I haven't tried buying textured paint yet. I see different types of
spray on
texture at HD. I may experiment a little with that. Do they sell paint
with
something in it that gives it a texture?


I just did this in my living room. The existing texture looked like
it was brushed with a whisk broom into swirls and then flattened down
a bit.

There was a 10 foot area that still showed some indication that a wall
had been removed and not well patched.

They sell a paint that is like thick paint or thin spackle for
texturing.

I had a lot of trouble matching what was up there but I'd call
my effort a success. It took many tries.

I tried sand paint, that didn't work at all.
I think it really depends on what you are trying to match.


They make roller covers with all sorts of textures (bumps, loops, etc.) -
you might find one of those is what was used originally. I used a loop-style
cover to patch a stucco-style wall, and it worked really well.

TMcLone


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