I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines. I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or other
witching techniques?

Steve

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:19:57 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines. I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or other
witching techniques?

Steve



If you actually believe you can do anything besides random chance with
those bent rods you should go here..

http://www.randi.org/

and take the challenge and make an easy million dollars.

"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:19:57 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines.
I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably
just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or other
witching techniques?

Steve



If you actually believe you can do anything besides random chance with
those bent rods you should go here..

http://www.randi.org/

and take the challenge and make an easy million dollars.

It must be tough to be you. Your reading comprehension sucks bigtime.

Steve

On Mar 7, 7:19 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines. I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or other
witching techniques?

Steve

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowse

I've done it.

As I said before, we own a very up to date electronic locator and
radioactive? beacon. When and if it gives mixed or questionable
readings, I get out the wires. I'm not sure I believe in it
myself, but when the wires cross and we dig we usually do find the
line.

Doubt away! It sure doesn't cost a dime to try it. Try it on
your own water line or UGE, the worst thing that happens is that
it doesn't work.

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"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried
lines. I've done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day
any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done,
probably just because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires?
Or other witching techniques?

Steve

Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:19:57 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried
lines. I've done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day
any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done,
probably just because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or
other witching techniques?

Steve



If you actually believe you can do anything besides random chance with
those bent rods you should go here..

http://www.randi.org/

and take the challenge and make an easy million dollars.

I have seen it done. It's not Voodoo. As long as the user knows what
they are doing and there is a current in that line, it will work. Frankly I
thought the supervisor from the gas company was crazy when he brought out
the two bent welding rods. I had a gas leak and they could not find the
curb shut off. (big leak) The first tech to show up was a nice young man,
but he could not find it. The supervisor, an older guy like me got his
electronic box out, but the battery was dead, so he got the rods. He was
able to pick up the magnetic current acting on the rods and follow the line
(they put a line with a low current through it with the plastic gas lines
around here.) In any case he walked down the line and found the buried shut
off. He explained it all to me after the younger guy left. :-)

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

I've seen it done and I've done it myself.

It is all in the person.

They either have the ability or they don't.

It can't be learned.

"buffalobill" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 7, 7:19 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines.
I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably
just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or
other
witching techniques?

Steve

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowse


sigh ............

another reading comprehension impaired contestant ............

Steve

On Mar 7, 6:46 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"buffalobill" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Mar 7, 7:19 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines.
I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done, probably
just
because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or
other
witching techniques?

Steve

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowse

sigh ............

another reading comprehension impaired contestant ............

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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I do it. I don't trust it. I have witched both new wells, existing
water lines, septic tank drain fields. I tell them that I don't trust
it and they will have to dig to tell if I am accurate. Almost
everything was in the only logical place for it or had other obvious
indicators. Without knowing _where_ another witcher had indicated for
drilling a new well, I ran the rods and marked the same spot. I also
traced a water line from a community well to an old school house for
1/4 mile. Only problem was when we dug on the school house end, the
water line came in 180 degrees away from where the rods said and
digging a cross trench where the rods said the line was turned up zip.

There have been no successful finds under controlled, scientific
conditions. Randi's offer is still unclaimed.

Harry K

sigh ............

another reading comprehension impaired contestant ............

Um...someone's reading comprehension is impaired because you bring up a
topic and they present a link to the Wikipedia article on this very same
topic? How does an appropriate link suggest a comprehension problem?

It doesn't speak highly of your position if all you can muster is name
calling. Obviously it means you are unable to provide us with any facts.
At least the others are providing some interesting anecdotes, whether
scientifically defensible or not. It beats name calling.

In article .com, wrote:
I've seen it done and I've done it myself.

It is all in the person.

They either have the ability or they don't.

It can't be learned.

Fine -- go claim Jim Randi's prize.
http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article , "Steve B" wrote:
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines. I've
done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

Fine -- go claim Jim Randi's prize.
http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Mar 7, 10:04 pm, Steve Kraus
wrote:
sigh ............

another reading comprehension impaired contestant ............

Um...someone's reading comprehension is impaired because you bring up a
topic and they present a link to the Wikipedia article on this very same
topic? How does an appropriate link suggest a comprehension problem?

It doesn't speak highly of your position if all you can muster is name
calling. Obviously it means you are unable to provide us with any facts.
At least the others are providing some interesting anecdotes, whether
scientifically defensible or not. It beats name calling.

Thanks. That needed to be said and one more entry from him on the
same line would have drawn a much harsher reply from me.

Harry K

Steve B wrote:
I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried lines.
I've done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done,
probably just because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or
other witching techniques?

No, but I have seen the results of crop circles.

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:19:57 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

I have used bent wires held loosely in my hands to find buried
lines. I've done it many many times. I'd do it on a bet any day
any where.

There seems to be some here who don't believe it can be done,
probably just because they haven't seen it first hand.

Has anyone here ever seen someone locate a line with bent wires? Or
other witching techniques?

Steve



If you actually believe you can do anything besides random chance with
those bent rods you should go here..

http://www.randi.org/

and take the challenge and make an easy million dollars.

I have seen it done. It's not Voodoo. As long as the user knows what
they are doing and there is a current in that line, it will work. Frankly
I thought the supervisor from the gas company was crazy when he brought
out the two bent welding rods. I had a gas leak and they could not find
the curb shut off. (big leak) The first tech to show up was a nice young
man, but he could not find it. The supervisor, an older guy like me got
his electronic box out, but the battery was dead, so he got the rods. He
was able to pick up the magnetic current acting on the rods and follow the
line (they put a line with a low current through it with the plastic gas
lines around here.) In any case he walked down the line and found the
buried shut off. He explained it all to me after the younger guy left.
:-)

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




I'm trying to understand this. If you have a gas leak, do you really want to
inject an electrical current down the gas line and why would a bended wire
be necessary as oppose to a straight wire?

The gas line is something like 5' below ground and the wire is something
like 3' above ground giving you a distance of something 8' between the gas
line and the wire. The current along the pipe is small, assuming in the
milliamp range, and electric gradient is even much smaller and may not be
able to be measured by instruments. You walk along the path at a slow speed
and try to interrupt the electric gradient and this current induced is even
much smaller than the electric gradient from the pipe. Looks to me that this
induced current from the bended wire is so small, if any, that ESP is more
applicable than physics. And how would you distinguish, electrically that
is, the leaking valve form any part of the pipe? If someone is this
sensitive to electric gradients I would think he would go crazy when he/she
is near a TV, microwave and how would you give MRI or EKG to this person?

replying to Steve B, Witcher wrote:
Yes. Witch my underground temporary power line today.

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