Awl,

Just a little ditty here, for those of you who actually use your garage for
your *car*--wow, what a novel idea!!
My garage is actually the basement of my house, and when I was foolish
enough to actually use it for the cars, I noticed the following:
When I brought the cars in in the winter, the house got warmer!
In summer, the house got miserable!
And, my garage, despite being in the basement, is really fairly remote from
the "house proper".
wow.....
Then, it made sense: a hot car is like a gigantic radiator, very high temp,
*very large mass*, adding boucou heat-- M x C x delta T, for the chemistry
peeple.
I'm sure this saved a cupla bucks a month--when I was silly enough to park
my cars in the garage.
Now, how bout dat motorcycle in the living room.....
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Only thing is the very time you would benefit, is the worst time for
the car to be garaged. The road salt stuck all over the car melts out
and dissolves the car. At least the cars left outside stay frozen much
of the time.

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Awl,

Just a little ditty here, for those of you who actually use your garage for
your *car*--wow, what a novel idea!!
My garage is actually the basement of my house, and when I was foolish
enough to actually use it for the cars, I noticed the following:
When I brought the cars in in the winter, the house got warmer!

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Hmm! Sounds theoretically possible! Maybe, maybe not?

Suppose you drive 60 miles to home and that you use one gallon of gas
per each 30 miles?

Also suppose that half that gasoline energy is wasted as heat; also
that not all of it is dissipated by the car radiator as you drive
along?

OK so far?

Pushing it, IMO, say that 20% of that heat is still in the car when you
park it in your basement?

That's one fifth of half the the energy used to drive the car; probably
that's overstating it and then some.

But anyway; each gallon of gas can provide about 110,000 BTUs of heat
energy.

So 0.2 x 0.5 x 110,000 BTU = 11,000 BTUs (right?) That's roughly (very
roughly) the equivalent of switching on a 1000 watt heater and leaving
it on for three hours.

Maybe it's possible but sound like 'pushing' it to me?

You mileage (Er. BTUs!) may vary!

Please feel free to disagree in any manner you wish.

Eric in North TX wrote:
Only thing is the very time you would benefit, is the worst time for
the car to be garaged. The road salt stuck all over the car melts out
and dissolves the car. At least the cars left outside stay frozen much
of the time.
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Yeah maybe it's the heat of the steel vehicle electrolytically
dissolving due to road salt.

What a stupid combination eh? Iron + salt. Shakespeare was right,
"Lord what fools these mortals be... ".

Why can't cars be made of fiberglass etc. Boats are! And you can often
buy a boat that resists seawater for years longer, also cheaper than a
road vehicle.

But it wouldn't matter whether you drove 60 miles or 600 miles. It's only a
matter of *when the car gets up to temperature*.
It then has a given mass and temperature, and therefore a certain amount of
energy to transfer.
Which gives 8.7 liter engines a little advantage, here.

Oh, and based on this li'l tidbit, in the summer, I would leave the cars on
the street until they cooled off, bring'em inside later.

Which also suggests warming your car up *inside* the garage, before
leaving--assuming you can vent the exhaust (actually not hard). Exhaust
gases can permeate the house *very* quickly, according to my CO monitor.

Yeah, the salt thing.
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Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
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The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Awl,

Just a little ditty here, for those of you who actually use your garage
for
your *car*--wow, what a novel idea!!
My garage is actually the basement of my house, and when I was foolish
enough to actually use it for the cars, I noticed the following:
When I brought the cars in in the winter, the house got warmer!

.................................................. ............................................
..
Hmm! Sounds theoretically possible! Maybe, maybe not?

Suppose you drive 60 miles to home and that you use one gallon of gas
per each 30 miles?

Also suppose that half that gasoline energy is wasted as heat; also
that not all of it is dissipated by the car radiator as you drive
along?

OK so far?

Pushing it, IMO, say that 20% of that heat is still in the car when you
park it in your basement?

That's one fifth of half the the energy used to drive the car; probably
that's overstating it and then some.

But anyway; each gallon of gas can provide about 110,000 BTUs of heat
energy.

So 0.2 x 0.5 x 110,000 BTU = 11,000 BTUs (right?) That's roughly (very
roughly) the equivalent of switching on a 1000 watt heater and leaving
it on for three hours.

Maybe it's possible but sound like 'pushing' it to me?

You mileage (Er. BTUs!) may vary!

Please feel free to disagree in any manner you wish.

Salt's bad any way you cut it... whether you park in your garage in
winter time or not.

I've used this method ever since I've gotten a garage. It leaves
puddles of water on the floor when it's snowy, but my garage doesn't
ever freeze if both cars are parked around 6 pm every day and the doors
are shut.

Saves me more than most... my water heater is in the garage.