What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times a month. I
have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose to it. So every once
in a while I had someone come by to either do pest control, or repair stuff,
or pressure wash something, or maintain the pool etc...they need to use
water. Pretty much every time they will end up breaking my hose coupling.
Either the strip the threads or cause it to leak. I think they don't turn
and unscrew the coupling from the spout, they just try to yank it off with
brute force. So I have to cut the hose and put in a new coupling.
Sometimes they even use my garden hose and have to attach their own fitting
on the other end and that usually result in breaking the couplings on both
ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After he is done I
know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause when I turn the water on it
shoots out to the side again in all directions, it's practically impossible
to turn the water on or off without getting soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn on
the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is the
metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, no luck.
It is locked tight. I tried for 2 hours and ended up stripping the metal.
This is the part I need to replace but this part has been there since day 1,
so it's been there like at least 15 years. It's not coming off. I tried
WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

MiamiCuse wrote:
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

....
I don't understand why they kept breaking it.
.....

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn on
the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is the
metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, ,,,

Pipe wrench. Pliers are for easy stuff. If still stout (but doubt
it), a little heat would undoubtedly do wonders.

Can't say why they're breaking it, would have to see what they're
actually doing. Looks like one of those "quick disconnect" thingies, I
gather? If so, quite possibly they don't have a clue has to how it is
supposed to work and if you expect/need others to use it, would be
better off simply leaving it as a ordinary spigot.

And, of course, a good quality brass-fittings hose would probably be
more rugged.

Anyone who brings their own hoses to work, will not have anything
compatible with your quick connect system.

They should have removed your adapter, and probably tried to or
did so. I, for one, would not be real happy to deal with some
proprietary piece of xxx that had been forced on with a pliers or
wrench. In the future, why not offer to remove your custom
adapter for them? Then you will know where it is and can
reinstall as you see fit.
___________________________
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times
a month. I have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose
to it. So every once in a while I had someone come by to either
do pest control, or repair stuff, or pressure wash something, or
maintain the pool etc...they need to use water. Pretty much
every time they will end up breaking my hose coupling. Either
the strip the threads or cause it to leak. I think they don't
turn and unscrew the coupling from the spout, they just try to
yank it off with brute force. So I have to cut the hose and put
in a new coupling. Sometimes they even use my garden hose and
have to attach their own fitting on the other end and that
usually result in breaking the couplings on both ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After
he is done I know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause
when I turn the water on it shoots out to the side again in all
directions, it's practically impossible to turn the water on or
off without getting soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the
hose, I replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is
an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out
when I turn on the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached
to the hose. It is the metal coupler above it. However I tried
removing it with a plier, no luck. It is locked tight. I tried
for 2 hours and ended up stripping the metal. This is the part I
need to replace but this part has been there since day 1, so
it's been there like at least 15 years. It's not coming off. I
tried WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

Suggest you buy brass also use a pipe wrench on the fitting put
penetrating fluid on the threads at the top of fitting let sit for 10
mins or so then try it. Wd40 is not good at lossining things.
dpb wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote:
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

...
I don't understand why they kept breaking it.
....

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn on
the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is the
metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, ,,,

Pipe wrench. Pliers are for easy stuff. If still stout (but doubt
it), a little heat would undoubtedly do wonders.

Can't say why they're breaking it, would have to see what they're
actually doing. Looks like one of those "quick disconnect" thingies, I
gather? If so, quite possibly they don't have a clue has to how it is
supposed to work and if you expect/need others to use it, would be
better off simply leaving it as a ordinary spigot.

And, of course, a good quality brass-fittings hose would probably be
more rugged.

That metal coupler as you call it is a vacuum breaker.
More likely than not you have a nozzle on the end of your hose
that is causing back pressure at the connection.
The "spray" is the vacuum breaker doing its job.
Should you try and remove it you're liable to break off the hose bibb.
They are installed with a "break-off" set screw that when properly
installed give them a semi-permanent installation.
You're welcome.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times a month.
I have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose to it. So every
once in a while I had someone come by to either do pest control, or repair
stuff, or pressure wash something, or maintain the pool etc...they need to
use water. Pretty much every time they will end up breaking my hose
coupling. Either the strip the threads or cause it to leak. I think they
don't turn and unscrew the coupling from the spout, they just try to yank
it off with brute force. So I have to cut the hose and put in a new
coupling. Sometimes they even use my garden hose and have to attach their
own fitting on the other end and that usually result in breaking the
couplings on both ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After he is done
I know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause when I turn the water on
it shoots out to the side again in all directions, it's practically
impossible to turn the water on or off without getting soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn
on the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is
the metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, no
luck. It is locked tight. I tried for 2 hours and ended up stripping the
metal. This is the part I need to replace but this part has been there
since day 1, so it's been there like at least 15 years. It's not coming
off. I tried WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

I do not have a quick connect on the spigot.

The way I had it set up.

The main spigot has a brass male coupler.

Then I had a brass "Y" that splits that into two. One side has a quick
connect coupler to my hose, the other side is a male end and it is always
left open for them to use.

What I noticed is that when they connect their hose to it, they always tried
to yank it on instead of screw it on. Their own hose always have a messed
up thread and they force them on mine, often times water leaks sideways out
of their but they don't care.

I did not leave out a quick connect and expect them to deal with it. I left
open a male coupler on one side of a "Y". It is a brass fitting, does not
matter they get them all twisted and crumpled and the threads worned out
anyways.

MC


"DanG" wrote in message
...
Anyone who brings their own hoses to work, will not have anything
compatible with your quick connect system.

They should have removed your adapter, and probably tried to or did so.
I, for one, would not be real happy to deal with some proprietary piece of
xxx that had been forced on with a pliers or wrench. In the future, why
not offer to remove your custom adapter for them? Then you will know
where it is and can reinstall as you see fit.
___________________________
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times a month.
I have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose to it. So every
once in a while I had someone come by to either do pest control, or
repair stuff, or pressure wash something, or maintain the pool etc...they
need to use water. Pretty much every time they will end up breaking my
hose coupling. Either the strip the threads or cause it to leak. I think
they don't turn and unscrew the coupling from the spout, they just try to
yank it off with brute force. So I have to cut the hose and put in a new
coupling. Sometimes they even use my garden hose and have to attach their
own fitting on the other end and that usually result in breaking the
couplings on both ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After he is done
I know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause when I turn the water
on it shoots out to the side again in all directions, it's practically
impossible to turn the water on or off without getting soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn
on the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is
the metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, no
luck. It is locked tight. I tried for 2 hours and ended up stripping the
metal. This is the part I need to replace but this part has been there
since day 1, so it's been there like at least 15 years. It's not coming
off. I tried WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the spigot
the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting out of the
end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink in
the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

Thanks,

MC


"Casino Knight" wrote in message
...
That metal coupler as you call it is a vacuum breaker.
More likely than not you have a nozzle on the end of your hose
that is causing back pressure at the connection.
The "spray" is the vacuum breaker doing its job.
Should you try and remove it you're liable to break off the hose bibb.
They are installed with a "break-off" set screw that when properly
installed give them a semi-permanent installation.
You're welcome.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times a month.
I have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose to it. So every
once in a while I had someone come by to either do pest control, or
repair stuff, or pressure wash something, or maintain the pool etc...they
need to use water. Pretty much every time they will end up breaking my
hose coupling. Either the strip the threads or cause it to leak. I think
they don't turn and unscrew the coupling from the spout, they just try to
yank it off with brute force. So I have to cut the hose and put in a new
coupling. Sometimes they even use my garden hose and have to attach their
own fitting on the other end and that usually result in breaking the
couplings on both ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After he is done
I know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause when I turn the water
on it shoots out to the side again in all directions, it's practically
impossible to turn the water on or off without getting soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I turn
on the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose. It is
the metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a plier, no
luck. It is locked tight. I tried for 2 hours and ended up stripping the
metal. This is the part I need to replace but this part has been there
since day 1, so it's been there like at least 15 years. It's not coming
off. I tried WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

From your picture, the hose bibb appears to be threaded on.
Shut off the water main
Grab two pipe wrenches and using one for a backup unthread it.
Replace with another female hose bibb. You may have to
remove the ground wire first.
Or call me, I'll come over and do it for $185.00 plus travel.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the spigot
the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting out of
the end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink in
the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

Thanks,

MC


"Casino Knight" wrote in message
...
That metal coupler as you call it is a vacuum breaker.
More likely than not you have a nozzle on the end of your hose
that is causing back pressure at the connection.
The "spray" is the vacuum breaker doing its job.
Should you try and remove it you're liable to break off the hose bibb.
They are installed with a "break-off" set screw that when properly
installed give them a semi-permanent installation.
You're welcome.

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
What is wrong with people handling garden hoses?

I found myself having to replace the hose coupling several times a
month. I have an exterior spout and I connected a garden hose to it. So
every once in a while I had someone come by to either do pest control,
or repair stuff, or pressure wash something, or maintain the pool
etc...they need to use water. Pretty much every time they will end up
breaking my hose coupling. Either the strip the threads or cause it to
leak. I think they don't turn and unscrew the coupling from the spout,
they just try to yank it off with brute force. So I have to cut the
hose and put in a new coupling. Sometimes they even use my garden hose
and have to attach their own fitting on the other end and that usually
result in breaking the couplings on both ends.

I don't understand why they kept breaking it.

Now this time I had someone pressure washed a driveway. After he is
done I know the hose coupler has to be replaced, cause when I turn the
water on it shoots out to the side again in all directions, it's
practically impossible to turn the water on or off without getting
soaked.

Except this time the problem was not the plastic coupler on the hose, I
replaced that already and it is still leaking. Here is an image:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/P1000492.JPG

I have indicated in blue lines where the water is jetting out when I
turn on the spigot. It is not the black coupler attached to the hose.
It is the metal coupler above it. However I tried removing it with a
plier, no luck. It is locked tight. I tried for 2 hours and ended up
stripping the metal. This is the part I need to replace but this part
has been there since day 1, so it's been there like at least 15 years.
It's not coming off. I tried WD40 no luck.

Any other suggestions?

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the spigot
the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting out of
the end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink in
the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

That looks like an anti-siphon valve and it just may be worn out. You should
be able to remove it with a large pipe wrench, Take it to the hardware store
and find a replacement.

Also, any chance that there is a rubber washer missing inside of the black
fitting?

"Noozer" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the spigot
the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting out of
the end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure
washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink
in the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

That looks like an anti-siphon valve and it just may be worn out. You
should be able to remove it with a large pipe wrench, Take it to the
hardware store and find a replacement.

Also, any chance that there is a rubber washer missing inside of the black
fitting?


Thanks but not really. I removed the hose and black fitting completely and
turn on the spigot and the water shoots down (as it should) and also jet in
all directions.

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...

"Noozer" wrote in message
news:Fmz3h.261452$5R2.145462@pd7urf3no...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the
spigot the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting
out of the end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure
washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink
in the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

That looks like an anti-siphon valve and it just may be worn out. You
should be able to remove it with a large pipe wrench, Take it to the
hardware store and find a replacement.

Also, any chance that there is a rubber washer missing inside of the
black fitting?


Thanks but not really. I removed the hose and black fitting completely
and turn on the spigot and the water shoots down (as it should) and also
jet in all directions.

Then definately a defective anti-siphon fitting then.

In article ,
Casino Knight wrote:

That metal coupler as you call it is a vacuum breaker.

More likely than not you have a nozzle on the end of your hose
that is causing back pressure at the connection.

The "spray" is the vacuum breaker doing its job.


Please say a bit more about a vacuum breaker,
and why it's needed, and how it works.

THANKS

David



Should you try and remove it you're liable to break off the hose bibb.
They are installed with a "break-off" set screw that when properly
installed give them a semi-permanent installation.
You're welcome.

In article Fmz3h.261452$5R2.145462@pd7urf3no,
Noozer wrote:

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
. ..
If I have nothing, no hose connected to it at all, and turn on the spigot
the water will jet out as well in addition to the water shouting out of
the end. That was not happening before they used it for pressure washing.

The hose I connected to it is open ended on the other side with no kink in
the hose. There can be no back pressure as far as I can see.

Can you suggest a way to fix this or do I need to call a professional
plumber?

That looks like an anti-siphon valve and it just may be worn out. You should

Likewise, what's an anti-siphon valve, why is it needed,
and how does it work?


THANKS!

David





be able to remove it with a large pipe wrench, Take it to the hardware store
and find a replacement.

Also, any chance that there is a rubber washer missing inside of the black
fitting?