After poking around the vents today, doing more work to insulate and clean
up before winter I noticed that the vent stack on my furnace is for the most
part coated in a white fine powder material, as well as rust flakes. I
understand from reading about CO, that the white powder indicates CO
problems.

But what does that mean, does it mean that the vent is leaking CO, or does
it indicate the furnace is venting excessive CO (maybe burning inefficiently
due to age)? The powder is only forming on the joints between pipes, which
to my mind says exhaust gas leakage.

Just for reference my furnace is 23 years old, and none of the venting
joints are sealed.

The "white powder" is residual salts left from the water vapor that
condenses within the flu [chimney] pipe. This water vapor is the result of
burning natural gas. An abundance collects inside the flu piping, and
condenses to water. When the water finally dries, it will leave a residual
salt. Which by the way has the relative same pH as a glass of red wine
[generally not exactly.] It does not mean you are leaking carbon monoxide,
although, there is some carbon dioxide leakage occurring and is likely
minimal.

What you don't want, is the flu piping to rust through, and allow excessive
amounts of "products of combustion" leaking under your home or in your
attic.

Seek the advice of your friendly neighborhood licensed furnace repair guy
and have your heating unit inspected annually.

--
Zyp
"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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After poking around the vents today, doing more work to insulate and clean
up before winter I noticed that the vent stack on my furnace is for the
most
part coated in a white fine powder material, as well as rust flakes. I
understand from reading about CO, that the white powder indicates CO
problems.

But what does that mean, does it mean that the vent is leaking CO, or does
it indicate the furnace is venting excessive CO (maybe burning
inefficiently
due to age)? The powder is only forming on the joints between pipes,
which
to my mind says exhaust gas leakage.

Just for reference my furnace is 23 years old, and none of the venting
joints are sealed.

"Zephyr" wrote in message
news:iNCdnZjJxIpAG6TYnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@championbroa dband.com...
The "white powder" is residual salts left from the water vapor that
condenses within the flu [chimney] pipe. This water vapor is the result
of
burning natural gas. An abundance collects inside the flu piping, and
condenses to water. When the water finally dries, it will leave a
residual
salt. Which by the way has the relative same pH as a glass of red wine
[generally not exactly.] It does not mean you are leaking carbon
monoxide,
although, there is some carbon dioxide leakage occurring and is likely
minimal.

What you don't want, is the flu piping to rust through, and allow
excessive
amounts of "products of combustion" leaking under your home or in your
attic.

Seek the advice of your friendly neighborhood licensed furnace repair guy
and have your heating unit inspected annually.

Well I haven't had the house for a year yet, and it was inspected before I
bought it. How good a job they did, I can't say unfortunately I didn't pay
enough attention to that. It was is first house so I was a bit overwhelmed
by the whole thing.


So what I'm hearing is that salt is forming on the joints because water
vapor is escaping through them, which would also imply CO and CO2, and
exhaust gas as well. Damn, time to call an inspector.

BTW: Do I have to call the manufacturer to inspect it, or would any
qualified repair person be able to do work on it?


--
Zyp
"Eigenvector" wrote in message
...
After poking around the vents today, doing more work to insulate and
clean
up before winter I noticed that the vent stack on my furnace is for the
most
part coated in a white fine powder material, as well as rust flakes. I
understand from reading about CO, that the white powder indicates CO
problems.

But what does that mean, does it mean that the vent is leaking CO, or
does
it indicate the furnace is venting excessive CO (maybe burning
inefficiently
due to age)? The powder is only forming on the joints between pipes,
which
to my mind says exhaust gas leakage.

Just for reference my furnace is 23 years old, and none of the venting
joints are sealed.

Eigenvector wrote:
...

BTW: Do I have to call the manufacturer to inspect it, or would any
qualified repair person be able to do work on it?



Any qualified professional should be able to do it.

If you don't already have them, now is a good time to add CO detectors
in you home.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
Eigenvector wrote:
..

BTW: Do I have to call the manufacturer to inspect it, or would any
qualified repair person be able to do work on it?



Any qualified professional should be able to do it.

If you don't already have them, now is a good time to add CO detectors
in you home.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit
I will,

BTW: I'm gonna have to start talking to my buddies at the gas company more
often. I mentioned the white powder to them and first thing out of their
mouth was - furnace is short cycling, too large a unit for the house. I
mentioned calling in an HVAC person, which I still am, and they cautioned me
that the HVAC person will use the white powder as an excuse to sell a new
furnace. They still recommended putting a CO detector at the thermostat.

Eigenvector wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
Eigenvector wrote:
..

BTW: Do I have to call the manufacturer to inspect it, or would any
qualified repair person be able to do work on it?



Any qualified professional should be able to do it.

If you don't already have them, now is a good time to add CO
detectors in you home.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit
I will,

BTW: I'm gonna have to start talking to my buddies at the gas
company more often. I mentioned the white powder to them and first
thing out of their mouth was - furnace is short cycling, too large a
unit for the house. I mentioned calling in an HVAC person, which I
still am, and they cautioned me that the HVAC person will use the
white powder as an excuse to sell a new furnace. They still
recommended putting a CO detector at the thermostat.

They gave you good advice.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Eigenvector wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
Eigenvector wrote:
..

BTW: Do I have to call the manufacturer to inspect it, or would any
qualified repair person be able to do work on it?



Any qualified professional should be able to do it.

If you don't already have them, now is a good time to add CO
detectors in you home.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit
I will,

BTW: I'm gonna have to start talking to my buddies at the gas
company more often. I mentioned the white powder to them and first
thing out of their mouth was - furnace is short cycling, too large a
unit for the house. I mentioned calling in an HVAC person, which I
still am, and they cautioned me that the HVAC person will use the
white powder as an excuse to sell a new furnace. They still
recommended putting a CO detector at the thermostat.

Let me add to my last response. A good professional would not use
anything for an excuse to sell you something, but there are plenty that are
not good who would.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit