Nice to use, essential, or unnecessary?

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Cats don't correct your stories.

You can get any answer you'd like on this subject. Some will tell you
they've used it for xxx years without having to pump the tank.

I've had two septic tank installers tell me that it does reduce the amount
of sludge that accumulates in the tank but at the risk of plugging your
drainfield. They claimed that in normal operation, septic effluent is taken
from approximately the center of the vertical height of the tank and goes to
the drainfield. In a properly operating system, the center section of the
tank will deliver the clearest water, which is what you want to go to the
drainfield. The top layer of the tank will have the floating sewage and the
bottom layer will be the denser sewage, along with the mineral matter that
came from the fully digested solids in the sewage. When you have a tank
pumped, what is being removed is primarily the mineral matter that has
accumulated from the digested sewage. The septic installer's explanation as
to why the Rid-X is not good for a septic system is that it causes solids in
the sewage to break into fine particles and that many of these fine
particles are suspended in the center layer and wind up going to the
drainfield. When they get to the drainfield, they create what they call a
'biomat' on the surfaces that are supposed to absorb the liquids into the
soil. Eventually, this can plug the drainfield.

This explanation sort of makes sense to me. I can't imagine how a 1000
gallon septic tank can hold 20 or 30 years of mineral matter accumulation
when you consider that the mineral matter should only be allowed to
accumulate in the bottom portion of the tank (to the bottom of the riser
that delivers effluent to the drainfield). If you let the mineral matter
(plus any solids in the sewage that is denser than water) build up to the
bottom of the riser, you'd either get sewage solids going to the drainfield
up through the riser or the riser would plug, which could allow floating
grease and sewage enter the drainfield line over the top of the riser.
Either situation would lead to plugging of the drainfield.

Harry

"Wayne Boatwright" wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com wrote in message
28.19...
Nice to use, essential, or unnecessary?

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Cats don't correct your stories.

Oh pshaw, on Mon 02 Oct 2006 06:23:16a, HarryS meant to say...

You can get any answer you'd like on this subject. Some will tell you
they've used it for xxx years without having to pump the tank.

I've had two septic tank installers tell me that it does reduce the
amount of sludge that accumulates in the tank but at the risk of
plugging your drainfield. They claimed that in normal operation, septic
effluent is taken from approximately the center of the vertical height
of the tank and goes to the drainfield. In a properly operating system,
the center section of the tank will deliver the clearest water, which is
what you want to go to the drainfield. The top layer of the tank will
have the floating sewage and the bottom layer will be the denser sewage,
along with the mineral matter that came from the fully digested solids
in the sewage. When you have a tank pumped, what is being removed is
primarily the mineral matter that has accumulated from the digested
sewage. The septic installer's explanation as to why the Rid-X is not
good for a septic system is that it causes solids in the sewage to break
into fine particles and that many of these fine particles are suspended
in the center layer and wind up going to the drainfield. When they get
to the drainfield, they create what they call a 'biomat' on the surfaces
that are supposed to absorb the liquids into the soil. Eventually, this
can plug the drainfield.

This explanation sort of makes sense to me. I can't imagine how a 1000
gallon septic tank can hold 20 or 30 years of mineral matter
accumulation when you consider that the mineral matter should only be
allowed to accumulate in the bottom portion of the tank (to the bottom
of the riser that delivers effluent to the drainfield). If you let the
mineral matter (plus any solids in the sewage that is denser than water)
build up to the bottom of the riser, you'd either get sewage solids
going to the drainfield up through the riser or the riser would plug,
which could allow floating grease and sewage enter the drainfield line
over the top of the riser. Either situation would lead to plugging of
the drainfield.

Thanks, Harry. A lot of food for thought.


--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

I have seen the future, and it looks a lot like
the present -- only much longer. --Dan Quisenberry

Oh pshaw, on Mon 02 Oct 2006 03:03:01a, Nobody You'd Know meant to say...

On 2 Oct 2006 06:33:39 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com wrote:

Nice to use, essential, or unnecessary?

I've used it or a competetive product for years. Had the tank
pumped for the first time at about 25 yrs of ownership; and the only
reason for problems was an accumulation of cigarette butts plugging
the outlet to the drain field.

The septic guy said he was amazed at how little sludge there
was in the tank.

I've since switched to another product from Bio-Safe One in
the NYC area.

http://www.biosafeone.com/

My drain field had become "blinded" with grease; and the
Bio-Safe cleared it when Rid-X couldn't.

Bottom line for me is: "Essential".

Thanks. I'll also take a look at that product.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

I have seen the future, and it looks a lot like
the present -- only much longer. --Dan Quisenberry

Looking into purchasing the Bio One for my septic system. Being the
untrusting skeptical I am, I am researching this product myself before
spending $1400+ on the product. My systems does not appear to be as bad
as some of the stories I have read but the sales guy insists that I
need to start with his recommendations based on the info I provided
(brown lines in the field - looks lie a football field) but no foul
odor.

Your thoughts

Dennis C.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
Nice to use, essential, or unnecessary?

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Cats don't correct your stories.

HarryS wrote:
You can get any answer you'd like on this subject.

The last time I had my tank pumped out I asked the service guy the same
question. He said some septic tank treatments do help, in fact they
sold one they recommended. I asked if it was any better than Rid-X.
He grinned and said "probably not".

Bob

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Nice to use, essential, or unnecessary?

None of the above.

The septic guy said he was amazed at how little sludge there
was in the tank.

That's because the RIDX kept it in suspension and it all went out into
your drain field.

stevelangler101 wrote the following:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ms-151523-.htm
stevelangler101 wrote:
I cannot agree with your more. The biosafeone products work unbelievable
well to say the least never seen anything like this before. Read my story
below. I will never doubt again. Don\'t let any other company tell you
they have the same thing either. I first tried the other product because I
didnt want to spend the money but I am so glad I gave this co. a spin.
Read my blog story:



Original message posted October 2, 2006

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On 3/28/2011 12:14 PM, willshak wrote:
stevelangler101 wrote the following:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ms-151523-.htm
stevelangler101 wrote:
I cannot agree with your more. The biosafeone products work unbelievable
well to say the least never seen anything like this before. Read my story
below. I will never doubt again. Don\'t let any other company tell you
they have the same thing either. I first tried the other product
because I
didnt want to spend the money but I am so glad I gave this co. a spin.
Read my blog story:


Original message posted October 2, 2006


To stevelangler101,

Trust me, if you are an intelligent man, posting from that site will
make you appear stupid. If you aren't intelligent, well that's why you
posted from there. Read and study about "usenet" and "newsgroups" give
it a month or so to learn a little. Then find the proper way to post
and you will never let the homeownershrub make you look stupid again.

Some people are naturally slow?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"willshak" wrote in message
m...
stevelangler101 wrote the following:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ms-151523-.htm
stevelangler101 wrote:
I cannot agree with your more. The biosafeone products
work unbelievable
well to say the least never seen anything like this
before. Read my story
below. I will never doubt again. Don\'t let any other
company tell you
they have the same thing either. I first tried the other
product because I
didnt want to spend the money but I am so glad I gave this
co. a spin.
Read my blog story:



Original message posted October 2, 2006

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @