Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I don't know if it is a law, but gas cans are red, kero cans are blue. This
avoids potential problems from mix-ups. Putting gas in a kerosene heater
can be a disaster. It is legal to use a plastic can. If a slight residue
is left, it will easily mix with gas and you'll never see a problem in a
mower or car once diluted.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I don't know if it is a law, but gas cans are red, kero cans are blue. This
avoids potential problems from mix-ups. Putting gas in a kerosene heater
can be a disaster. It is legal to use a plastic can. If a slight residue
is left, it will easily mix with gas and you'll never see a problem in a
mower or car once diluted.


Absolutely. Only one other thought. Kerosene is
sold in plastic containers. Personally, I prefer
to keep it a gallon glass bottle on the floor, but
some may consider that dangerous.

"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.


When you say the opposite is illegal, surely you don't mean putting plastic
gasoline cans in kerosene?

I don't see why it would be illegal, I think it would be a very dumb idea
for a dealer to do this - the two are NOT interchangible.

"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for 20
years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did it in
an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:24:00 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
.. .
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for 20
years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did it in
an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Are you my long lost brother? I've been searching for you for 20
years!

Maybe I'll take a marker with me, and write kerosene if the guy
insists. Later I can change it to skerosene, so as not to confuse
anyone.

mm wrote in
:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:24:00 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
. ..
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I
would only need it for a few months anyhow.

I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for
20 years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did
it in an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Are you my long lost brother? I've been searching for you for 20
years!

Maybe I'll take a marker with me, and write kerosene if the guy
insists. Later I can change it to skerosene, so as not to confuse
anyone.




Again, Red Green comes to the rescue...

Remember those things when you (me anyway) were a kid where you wrote on
the film over the silver/grey backing? You pulled the film up and it
erased the writing for a clean slate. Can't remember what it was called.

Just duct tape one of those to the can and change at will at the station.

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:54:39 -0500, Al Bundy
wrote:


I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for
20 years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did
it in an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Are you my long lost brother? I've been searching for you for 20
years!

Maybe I'll take a marker with me, and write kerosene if the guy
insists. Later I can change it to skerosene, so as not to confuse
anyone.


Again, Red Green comes to the rescue...

Remember those things when you (me anyway) were a kid where you wrote on
the film over the silver/grey backing? You pulled the film up and it
erased the writing for a clean slate. Can't remember what it was called.

I had that and I liked it. I don't remember the name.

Just duct tape one of those to the can and change at will at the station.

Great idea. I should have though of that. When in college I had keys
that were stamped on them Do Not Duplicate, I would put some paper
tape around the head of the key and write "Back Door" on the paper.

mm wrote in
:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:54:39 -0500, Al Bundy
wrote:


I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for
20 years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did
it in an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Are you my long lost brother? I've been searching for you for 20
years!

Maybe I'll take a marker with me, and write kerosene if the guy
insists. Later I can change it to skerosene, so as not to confuse
anyone.


Again, Red Green comes to the rescue...

Remember those things when you (me anyway) were a kid where you wrote on
the film over the silver/grey backing? You pulled the film up and it
erased the writing for a clean slate. Can't remember what it was called.

I had that and I liked it. I don't remember the name.

Some old memory bubbles have popped out saying Magic Slate" maybe. I think
I used a Magic Marker on it eventually. Figured they were both magic and I
wanted to see magically how this marker that won't come off anything came
off my Magic Slate. "Waaaaaahhhhh! Mommy, my Magic Slate is broke.
Wahhhhhhh!".

So mom tries to fix it by using fingernail polish remover and the film
melts big time.

Guess mom didn't "Know your solvents vs plastics:" and check the the MDS
sheet first, ehhh Richard :-)


Just duct tape one of those to the can and change at will at the station.

Great idea. I should have though of that. When in college I had keys
that were stamped on them Do Not Duplicate, I would put some paper
tape around the head of the key and write "Back Door" on the paper.

On Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:24:00 PM UTC-7, Toller wrote:
"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for 20
years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did it in
an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Yep, easy to mistake:

I heat with wood, cut my own. Went out to burn my brush piles one day, stopped filled up two cans, gas (for lawn mower) and diesel (to start fires) both in red cans but one with big yellow spout.

Fire piles were a bit stubborn starting so I was going back and forth adding diesel. Toss a bit WHOOSH!. About the third time I looked down and I was using the gas can and it had a flame flickering at the spout. Slapped my glove on it, retired to the truck for a cup of coffee while my nerves recovered.

Diesel is now in a yellow can (as it should have been then).

Harry K

On 1/2/2015 1:41 PM, Harry K wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:24:00 PM UTC-7, Toller wrote:
"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

I stenciled "kerosene" on a plastic gas can and have been using it for 20
years.
I don't recommend it because it is too easy to make a mistake. I did it in
an emergency, and now am too cheap to do otherwise.

Yep, easy to mistake:

I heat with wood, cut my own. Went out to burn my brush piles one day, stopped filled up two cans, gas (for lawn mower) and diesel (to start fires) both in red cans but one with big yellow spout.

Fire piles were a bit stubborn starting so I was going back and forth adding diesel. Toss a bit WHOOSH!. About the third time I looked down and I was using the gas can and it had a flame flickering at the spout. Slapped my glove on it, retired to the truck for a cup of coffee while my nerves recovered.

Diesel is now in a yellow can (as it should have been then).

Harry K


Years ago we laughed at my uncle that had painted "garbage" on his
garbage can.

I guess we would laugh today if he painted "gas" on his gas can

mm wrote in
:

Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.




If you have no room for a kero can you just plain have too much ****.

Don't swap them Period

There are a bizillion different plastics/properties. Different liquids
will eat or not eat away at plastics at a very fast or very slow rate.
I'm sure you want gallons of fuel leaking out of a can that "I dunno wha
happen. I've been using that can for months. Must be a can defect.".

But why are gas cans red and kero cans blue? Think fireman. So when they
go to put out a fire they will know what's in the can from far away
without having to go up and sniff your can (no pun intended) or pull out
binoculars to read makeshift labels. Then they know what to put on it so
they put it out and not spread the flammable.

Sell $10 worth of that useless **** you have on ebay and buy a can.
Solves the space problem.

Al Bundy writes:

Different liquids
will eat or not eat away at plastics at a very fast or very slow rate.

Don't be silly. If it holds gasoline it will hold kerosene. They're both
just petroleum distillates, with gasoline the lighter, more solvent
fraction.

Richard J Kinch wrote in
:

Al Bundy writes:

Different liquids
will eat or not eat away at plastics at a very fast or very slow
rate.

Don't be silly. If it holds gasoline it will hold kerosene. They're
both just petroleum distillates, with gasoline the lighter, more
solvent fraction.


I'm confident it would. Just a general statement not to develop a bad
habit that could be nasty.

I've seen xylene melt "plastic" on contact before my eyes. I've seen it
clean other "plastics" like ammonia on glass. Obviously they were two
very different plastics. Long ago but I think one may have been Lexan?

The main point was the firefighter issue.

Al Bundy writes:

I've seen xylene melt "plastic" on contact before my eyes.

Know your solvents vs plastics:

http://www.omega.com/pdf/tubing/tech...al_chart_5.asp

Al Bundy wrote:
mm wrote in
:

Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.




If you have no room for a kero can you just plain have too much ****.

Don't swap them Period

There are a bizillion different plastics/properties. Different liquids
will eat or not eat away at plastics at a very fast or very slow rate.
I'm sure you want gallons of fuel leaking out of a can that "I dunno wha
happen. I've been using that can for months. Must be a can defect.".

But why are gas cans red and kero cans blue? Think fireman. So when they
go to put out a fire they will know what's in the can from far away
without having to go up and sniff your can (no pun intended) or pull out
binoculars to read makeshift labels. Then they know what to put on it so
they put it out and not spread the flammable.



Gas and Kero are basically the same. The only difference in the cans
is the color.
Firemen don't care what is in the can. If it is red or blue they will
be treating it as highly flammable.

I have three different gas cans. Regular, premium, chainsaw - all are
identified with magic marker. I also have my decoy 5 gal. I pity the
thief who grabs the first "gas" can he sees. He will get about 4
gallons of diesel, used paint thinner, gas that was used for cleaning
parts and some other stuff I forgot. That is my brush pile fire
starter.

Harry K

According to Harry K :

Gas and Kero are basically the same. The only difference in the cans
is the color.
Firemen don't care what is in the can. If it is red or blue they will
be treating it as highly flammable.

Firemen do care. I was one for a bit. ;-)

Gasoline is far more of a fire hazard than kerosene or diesel, and
depending on the circumstances will be treated differently.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:07:18 -0000, (Chris
Lewis) wrote:

According to Harry K :

Gas and Kero are basically the same. The only difference in the cans
is the color.
Firemen don't care what is in the can. If it is red or blue they will
be treating it as highly flammable.

Firemen do care. I was one for a bit. ;-)

Gasoline is far more of a fire hazard than kerosene or diesel, and
depending on the circumstances will be treated differently.

Isn't that why in cowboy** movies, a guy on horseback can go into a
cabin where no one has been for months, and light the kerosene
lantern?

Did they have gasoline in the second half of the 19th century\? If
they did, I think it would be wicked up by the lantern wick and
evaporate. Wouldn't be nearly as practical as kerosene for that
reason, and I don't think one could safely burn it in a lantern.

**BTW, did you ever notice that there are no movies afaicr with both
cowboys and Indians in the same movie. Maybe "cowboy and Indian
movies" refers to two kinds.

mm writes:

Did they have gasoline in the second half of the 19th century\? If
they did, I think it would be wicked up by the lantern wick and
evaporate. Wouldn't be nearly as practical as kerosene for that
reason, and I don't think one could safely burn it in a lantern.

Correct.

In the 19th century petroleum was distilled for kerosene lamp oil. They
threw out the gasoline (!) from the process, as there was no use for it
prior to the invention of the internal combustion engine.

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:07:18 -0000, (Chris
Lewis) wrote:

According to Harry K :

Gas and Kero are basically the same. The only difference in the cans
is the color.
Firemen don't care what is in the can. If it is red or blue they will
be treating it as highly flammable.

Firemen do care. I was one for a bit. ;-)

Gasoline is far more of a fire hazard than kerosene or diesel, and
depending on the circumstances will be treated differently.

Isn't that why in cowboy** movies, a guy on horseback can go into a
cabin where no one has been for months, and light the kerosene
lantern?

Did they have gasoline in the second half of the 19th century\? If
they did, I think it would be wicked up by the lantern wick and
evaporate. Wouldn't be nearly as practical as kerosene for that
reason, and I don't think one could safely burn it in a lantern.

They did have gasoline, it was sold in the drugstore as a cleaning
agent/solvent.



**BTW, did you ever notice that there are no movies afaicr with both
cowboys and Indians in the same movie. Maybe "cowboy and Indian
movies" refers to two kinds.

On Monday, August 14, 2006 8:07:18 AM UTC-7, Chris Lewis wrote:
According to Harry K

Gas and Kero are basically the same. The only difference in the cans
is the color.
Firemen don't care what is in the can. If it is red or blue they will
be treating it as highly flammable.

Firemen do care. I was one for a bit. ;-)

Gasoline is far more of a fire hazard than kerosene or diesel, and
depending on the circumstances will be treated differently.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Actually the part you quoted was by Bundy. I did a poor job of editing.
Yes firemen care greatly!!

Harry K

replying to Harry K, Cheryl Grosso wrote:
Ok so how do I clean out an old gas can to transport kerosene as a temporary
solution. Cold snap hit, and I dire need of heat, kerosene heaters and one
fire place are all I have and the fire place alone is not sufficient. I plan
to purchase proper container when I can but now I need the money to pay for
the kerosene to heat my house.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...an-137544-.htm

On 01/09/2017 05:14 AM, Cheryl Grosso wrote:
replying to Harry K, Cheryl Grosso wrote:
Ok so how do I clean out an old gas can to transport kerosene as a
temporary
solution. Cold snap hit, and I dire need of heat, kerosene heaters
and one
fire place are all I have and the fire place alone is not sufficient. I
plan
to purchase proper container when I can but now I need the money to pay for
the kerosene to heat my house.

Pour out the gas and fill it with kerosene. They are miscible. You may
have to find a colorblind supplier if they're picky.

It is spooky to read "Stormin's" old posts...

m

Traces of kero won't hurt a gasoline engine. Half or a third kero
might not start the mower.

Years ago, they used to use kerosene and gasoline for remote location
pump houses. Start the engine on gas, and then switch over to kero.
Because kero stores longer without going stale.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"mm" wrote in message
...
Is it legal for a vendor to put kerosene in a plastic gasoline can?
(I assume the opposite is illegal, but I don't know about this.)

Is there any other reason not to put in in one?

If after I've emptied all the kerosene and want to use it for
gasoline, if there's a little bit of kerosene still in it, will that
be a problem for a lawn mower or a car?

I have a spare platic can and no room for a kerosene can, and I would
only need it for a few months anyhow.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Traces of kero won't hurt a gasoline engine. Half or a third kero
might not start the mower.

Years ago, they used to use kerosene and gasoline for remote location
pump houses. Start the engine on gas, and then switch over to kero.
Because kero stores longer without going stale.



And I remember that during WWII one of the DIY magazines like Pop
Science ran an article on how to adapt your car to start on gasoline and
then switch it over to kero or even #2 fuel oil which was easier to come
by during the war than rationed gasoline was.

IIRC they had you wrap a couple of feet of copper tubing loosely around
the exhaust manifold and ran the alternate fuel through it before it got
to the carb to make it easier to vaporize.

You had to switch back to gasoline for a short while before shutting
down, so the carb bowl was filled with gasoline for the next start.

You prolly would have a hell of a time trying to do that with one of
today's computerized fuel injected cars, but back then when all you
needed to make a car engine run was "fire and gas" and you could play
with thinkgs like ignition timing just by rotating the distributor,
stuff was a lot easier to tinker with. Hell, I swear my 2004 Lincoln
throws on its "Check Engine" light if I fart with the windows closed.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:46:33 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Traces of kero won't hurt a gasoline engine. Half or a third kero
might not start the mower.

Years ago, they used to use kerosene and gasoline for remote location
pump houses. Start the engine on gas, and then switch over to kero.
Because kero stores longer without going stale.



And I remember that during WWII one of the DIY magazines like Pop
Science ran an article on how to adapt your car to start on gasoline and
then switch it over to kero or even #2 fuel oil which was easier to come
by during the war than rationed gasoline was.

IIRC they had you wrap a couple of feet of copper tubing loosely around
the exhaust manifold and ran the alternate fuel through it before it got
to the carb to make it easier to vaporize.

You had to switch back to gasoline for a short while before shutting
down, so the carb bowl was filled with gasoline for the next start.

Sounds very high tech, and I'm not kidding.

You prolly would have a hell of a time trying to do that with one of
today's computerized fuel injected cars, but back then when all you

You couldn't do it yourself, but they could make the computer handle
the switchover and the switch back. Would make it pretty easy.

Of course, this war isn't like WWII. No one is asking anyone to cut
back on gasoline use. High prices may discourage some, but we were
told to buy things, to spend money. This is supposed to be a painless
war on the home front. Well, home is not a front, except for those
with family members in the war.

needed to make a car engine run was "fire and gas" and you could play
with thinkgs like ignition timing just by rotating the distributor,
stuff was a lot easier to tinker with. Hell, I swear my 2004 Lincoln
throws on its "Check Engine" light if I fart with the windows closed.

Jeff