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Which small Engine is Better - Briggs / Tecumseh?
Which small Engine is Better - Briggs or Tecumseh?
If you mow a city lawn and do it every few days this probably wont even affect you. But I own a farm and mow heavy grass. Sometimes it's a foot tall. Having had numerous push mowers, I have decided that the Tecumseh engines are much better. When I was younger, it seemed that every mower had a Briggs engine. Then I started to run across mowers with Tecumseh engines. The last Tecumseh mower I had was a 3HP model. That mower just went thru everything and rarely ever stopped. Even when the blade was dull, it still kept going. I finally destroyed it when I ran over some metal and bent the crankshaft so badly the blade chopped the frame to shreads (because I kept going). I just got another mower with a crappy Briggs engine. Also a 3HP. Once again I got a mower that dies constantly, dont have the guts to get thru even the lightest weeds, and takes me ten times as long to mow. Considering both engines are 3HP, and the frames are identical (meaning no powered wheels, etc), I will say the Tecumseh has 3 times the power of the Briggs engine. And just for the record, this new Briggs mower has less usage than that Tecumseh one had. I already know that this POS will be going to the next auction. I just cant stand these weak Briggs engines with no power and no guts. Which do you prefer, and why? Mark |
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Harry K wrote: One with a Honda will outperform your Tecumseh or Briggs but it will cost you. It will also still be running after the world ends. My oldest one is over 25 years old ... The worlds going to end in 25 years? Yikes! *sets doomsday clock* |
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Harry K wrote: Be aware that Honda has brought out some lower priced engines recently, which skimp on some of the features to cut costs. Of course, knowing Honda, they will probably still be superior to anything near the price. The new OHV Briggs engines are just outstanding. |
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... Which small Engine is Better - Briggs or Tecumseh? If you mow a city lawn and do it every few days this probably wont even affect you. But I own a farm and mow heavy grass. Sometimes it's a foot tall. Having had numerous push mowers, I have decided that the Tecumseh engines are much better. When I was younger, it seemed that every mower had a Briggs engine. Then I started to run across mowers with Tecumseh engines. The last Tecumseh mower I had was a 3HP model. That mower just went thru everything and rarely ever stopped. Even when the blade was dull, it still kept going. I finally destroyed it when I ran over some metal and bent the crankshaft so badly the blade chopped the frame to shreads (because I kept going). I just got another mower with a crappy Briggs engine. Also a 3HP. Once again I got a mower that dies constantly, dont have the guts to get thru even the lightest weeds, and takes me ten times as long to mow. Considering both engines are 3HP, and the frames are identical (meaning no powered wheels, etc), I will say the Tecumseh has 3 times the power of the Briggs engine. And just for the record, this new Briggs mower has less usage than that Tecumseh one had. I already know that this POS will be going to the next auction. I just cant stand these weak Briggs engines with no power and no guts. Which do you prefer, and why? Mark Tecumseh shill? |
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Robert Barr wrote: z wrote: Harry K wrote: Be aware that Honda has brought out some lower priced engines recently, which skimp on some of the features to cut costs. Of course, knowing Honda, they will probably still be superior to anything near the price. The new OHV Briggs engines are just outstanding. I don't have a cite for it but my understanding is that that those engines are actually Japanese, either imported or built under license. Kawasaki I think. Harry K |
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ups.com... wrote: Which small Engine is Better - Briggs or Tecumseh? That's like asking which is better, chevy or ford. If you mow a city lawn and do it every few days this probably wont even affect you. But I own a farm and mow heavy grass. Sometimes it's a foot tall. Having had numerous push mowers, I have decided that the Tecumseh engines are much better. When I was younger, it seemed that every mower had a Briggs engine. Then I started to run across mowers with Tecumseh engines. The last Tecumseh mower I had was a 3HP model. That mower just went thru everything and rarely ever stopped. Even when the blade was dull, it still kept going. I finally destroyed it when I ran over some metal and bent the crankshaft so badly the blade chopped the frame to shreads (because I kept going). I just got another mower with a crappy Briggs engine. Also a 3HP. Once again I got a mower that dies constantly, dont have the guts to get thru even the lightest weeds, and takes me ten times as long to mow. Considering both engines are 3HP, and the frames are identical (meaning no powered wheels, etc), I will say the Tecumseh has 3 times the power of the Briggs engine. And just for the record, this new Briggs mower has less usage than that Tecumseh one had. I already know that this POS will be going to the next auction. I just cant stand these weak Briggs engines with no power and no guts. Which do you prefer, and why? Mark You are aware that Brigs (and probablyi Tecumseh also) build different grades? Buy a cheap mower, you will get a cheap engine. If you really want a good engine you will have to buy a better grade mower. One with a Honda will outperform your Tecumseh or Briggs but it will cost you. It will also still be running after the world ends. My oldest one is over 25 years old and still starts first pull every time...well I did have to pull 3 or 4 times last spring first time out of the shed. All I have replaced is the sparkplug (once), clutch cable (once) and drive wheel tires twice. Harry K I have a 27 year old Tecumseh in my riding mower that's only had oil, plugs and filter cleaning. Have a 3.5HP Tecumseh in the shed that outlasted the chassis it came in. The 4HP B&S Quantum that replaced it doesn't seem to have any more power than the 3.5HP .All of them were made before mulching mowers became popular. A mower with a blade for mulching might not discharge well or so I've heard. Did you get the first mower off Honda's assembly line?grin My only experience with Honda mowers is my friends. His threw a rod through the crankcase last year, just out of warranty. I convinced him to take it back to Sears and see if they would make it right. They told him it was still under warranty and gave him a new one. Don't know if he didn't know when the warranty was up or if they gave an extended warranty because of a known defect or something else. Just pointing out they all can have problems. I have an ST1100 and love it other than the, $30 each, proprietary headlight bulbs. YMMV |
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Which small Engine is Better - Briggs / Tecumseh?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:00:58 GMT, "JohnR66" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Which small Engine is Better - Briggs or Tecumseh? If you mow a city lawn and do it every few days this probably wont even affect you. But I own a farm and mow heavy grass. Sometimes it's a foot tall. Having had numerous push mowers, I have decided that the Tecumseh engines are much better. When I was younger, it seemed that every mower had a Briggs engine. Then I started to run across mowers with Tecumseh engines. The last Tecumseh mower I had was a 3HP model. That mower just went thru everything and rarely ever stopped. Even when the blade was dull, it still kept going. I finally destroyed it when I ran over some metal and bent the crankshaft so badly the blade chopped the frame to shreads (because I kept going). I just got another mower with a crappy Briggs engine. Also a 3HP. Once again I got a mower that dies constantly, dont have the guts to get thru even the lightest weeds, and takes me ten times as long to mow. Considering both engines are 3HP, and the frames are identical (meaning no powered wheels, etc), I will say the Tecumseh has 3 times the power of the Briggs engine. And just for the record, this new Briggs mower has less usage than that Tecumseh one had. I already know that this POS will be going to the next auction. I just cant stand these weak Briggs engines with no power and no guts. Which do you prefer, and why? Mark Tecumseh shill? NO I dont work for Tecumseh. In fact I am retired but do small scale farming because I enjoy it. But being a farmer, requires powerful equipment. Practically anything can mow a city lawn that gets mowed every week or more. I am just looking for opinions from others. I can honestly say that the mower I have now is a royal pain in the ass. It's got a Briggs 3HP, and it kills every few minutes on grass that's 8 to 10 inches tall. Yet, my 3HP Tecumseh mower would take down grass that was 3 feet tall, and even chop off 1 inch thick burdock stalks. It hardly ever killed. I spent nearly 3 hours yesterday mowing a 50 ft. piece of lawn with 8 to 10" grass, and must have restarted the thing nearly 50 times. With that old mower, I would have done the job in 20 minutes and restarted probably 3 times at most. I just got this Briggs engine mower last week, actually it was given to me, but I left it with a relative. I absolutely hate the thing. When I mow, I want to mow, blast thru whatever needs to be taken down, and get the job done, not baby the thing, and have to keep restarting even if I do go as slow as I can. I know what works and what ****es me off. This mower I have now is a "**** off". In fact I just went out to look for another mower, and one with a Tecumseh engine. I have more important things to do than **** around with a mower that dont want to cut the lawn. This is probably the worst mower I ever had, but I have never owned a mower with a Briggs eng. that had enough power for my needs. Mark |
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T Shadow wrote: "Harry K" wrote in message snip You are aware that Brigs (and probablyi Tecumseh also) build different grades? Buy a cheap mower, you will get a cheap engine. If you really want a good engine you will have to buy a better grade mower. One with a Honda will outperform your Tecumseh or Briggs but it will cost you. It will also still be running after the world ends. My oldest one is over 25 years old and still starts first pull every time...well I did have to pull 3 or 4 times last spring first time out of the shed. All I have replaced is the sparkplug (once), clutch cable (once) and drive wheel tires twice. Harry K snip Did you get the first mower off Honda's assembly line?grin My only experience with Honda mowers is my friends. His threw a rod through the crankcase last year, just out of warranty. I convinced him to take it back to Sears and see if they would make it right. They told him it was still under warranty and gave him a new one. Don't know if he didn't know when the warranty was up or if they gave an extended warranty because of a known defect or something else. Just pointing out they all can have problems. I have an ST1100 and love it other than the, $30 each, proprietary headlight bulbs. YMMV As to the "first off the assembly line. Nope. I tried once a few years ago to figure out just when I did buy it. I bought it on recommendation from my neighbor who had seen one and had a Honda tiller. Purchase was in early or mid 80s but I can't come closer than that. So I may be wrong, it could only be 20 yoa. Then when I was coming up on retirement about 10 years ago I figured it would be nice to have a mower that would last through my 'fixed income' years and bought another one. That one is still in the shed as this one just won't quit. Smokes like a fiend when first fired up but then clears up. Of course both mowers and the tiller I also have smoked at start up from new. Dealer says 'nature of the beast' but can't give an explanation other than a few drops of oil leaking past valve stems. Since none of the burn oil I don't undersand it. Harry K Harry K |
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newer mowers have been regulated by the feds, design of discharge hole,
limit blade tip speed etc. now all these make mowers safer but can adversely effect mower operation. heck new mowers have carb adjustements permanetely plugged so you cant easily raiue engine speed. this is why really old mowers were 2 or 3 horsepower and newer ones 5 or 6 hp and often dont work as well as old ones. our federal governmment at work...... |
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Robert Barr wrote: z wrote: Harry K wrote: Be aware that Honda has brought out some lower priced engines recently, which skimp on some of the features to cut costs. Of course, knowing Honda, they will probably still be superior to anything near the price. The new OHV Briggs engines are just outstanding. I don't have a cite for it but my understanding is that that those engines are actually Japanese, either imported or built under license. Kawasaki I think. Harry K Japanese engines certainly are good. The engines on my Shindaiwa chain saw and trimmer certainly kick butt and require little attention. Pete C. |
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newer mowers have been regulated by the feds, design of discharge hole, limit blade tip speed etc. now all these make mowers safer but can adversely effect mower operation. heck new mowers have carb adjustements permanetely plugged so you cant easily raiue engine speed. this is why really old mowers were 2 or 3 horsepower and newer ones 5 or 6 hp and often dont work as well as old ones. our federal governmment at work...... If you buy from the professional lines of equipment you bypass much of the asinine "safety" nonsense. Of course you can also modify the consumer units to fix the flaws if you're so inclined. I had to modify a snow blower that was downright dangerous with the "safety" junk. The "safety" clutch design made it impossible to have proper control of the machine to change direction quickly to get out of the road if a car was coming or to back up when you found the low stone wall. Pete C. |
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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:25:43 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote: wrote: Which small Engine is Better - Briggs or Tecumseh? If you mow a city lawn and do it every few days this probably wont even affect you. But I own a farm and mow heavy grass. Sometimes it's a foot tall. Having had numerous push mowers, I have decided that the Tecumseh engines are much better. When I was younger, it seemed that every mower had a Briggs engine. Then I started to run across mowers with Tecumseh engines. The last Tecumseh mower I had was a 3HP model. That mower just went thru everything and rarely ever stopped. Even when the blade was dull, it still kept going. I finally destroyed it when I ran over some metal and bent the crankshaft so badly the blade chopped the frame to shreads (because I kept going). I just got another mower with a crappy Briggs engine. Also a 3HP. Once again I got a mower that dies constantly, dont have the guts to get thru even the lightest weeds, and takes me ten times as long to mow. Considering both engines are 3HP, and the frames are identical (meaning no powered wheels, etc), I will say the Tecumseh has 3 times the power of the Briggs engine. And just for the record, this new Briggs mower has less usage than that Tecumseh one had. I already know that this POS will be going to the next auction. I just cant stand these weak Briggs engines with no power and no guts. Which do you prefer, and why? Mark You don't mention the ages of the engines in question, but it seems at some point over the years that engine horsepower numbers went the way of compressor horsepower numbers i.e. grossly inflated. I have a quite old Deere 110 riding mower with a Kohler 10HP engine that from every objective comparison I can make seems to have more power than the new mowers with "18HP" engines. Pete C. Both mowers are from the mid to late 1990's. The Teumseh I was able to date to 97 or 98. The other one I could not date, but he bought that one shortly before. I wonder if he found it tough to use too, and is why he bought the other one... |
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Rich256 wrote:
I agree. Just take care of it properly. I have found that 10W30 Mobil 1 synthetic oil is a great lubricant for air cooled engines. It doesn't break down due to heat like conventional oils. BEST ADVICE... I do this too. It's very cheap insurance, small engine parts & replacement engines are disproportionately expensive. Larger HP engines - Tecumseh Snow-Kings & up into The Briggs V-Twins seem to really thrive on synthetic oil. Rob |
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