I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

Mine have all been rather accurate.

How are you measuring the temperature? Are the door seals in good
condition and the doors properly adjusted?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

How hot is hot? Never had the problem. We do have a refrigerator at work
that cannot keep up when the ambient temperature reaches 110 degrees. Mine
at home are OK into the 90's with no adjustments.

Could it be you are turning the fridge to a cooler setting when it is in a
very hot climate and already running 100% of the time? If so, no matter how
far you adjust the knob, the compressor can do no more than it already is
doing. When it turns cooler, it will freeze things because you have it set
too cold. When the heat breaks, the cooling system can finally work
properly, but now you have set it too cold.

Again, how hot is hot? My guess is the problem would partly go away if you
just left it in the right setting.

scott moore wrote:

I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

There are some refrigerators that use modern electronics instead of
hundred year old mechanical thermostats. I have a GE Profile Arctica
unit with proper digital controls. I believe all the LG stuff used them
as well along with many of the other asian brands.

Pete C.

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:55:55 -0700, scott moore
wrote:

I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

I don't really think I can add to the first three answers, but I'm
posting anyhow.

The nine refrigerators I've own or used for a year or more since I was
born 59 years ago all seemed to work ok. None have had any
electronics. I adjust the temp, and if it has a freezer to fridge
ratio control, that a bit, until the ice cream just colder than soft,
and the milk is definitely cold, and then I'm done until I move
somewhere else.

Except when I was in college, in 1969, in an apartment, that one
started freezing the lettuce and would do so even at the warmest
setting. Maybe we shoudl have told the landlord,

Boring story that won't help the OP: but my roommate found an
abandoned, we thought (still think so), fridge in the basement, and we
dragged it up one flight of stairs to our back door. Wide wood
Chicago steps. Boy, was it hard to get it up the stairs with 2 or 3
of us. Then we used that fridge for our second and last year, and we
put the broken one in the pantry, and together the 3 of us and the
girl who came over to share meals with us 5 nights a week, we bought a
quarter cow.*** Of course fridges don't have enough insulation to be
used economically as a freezer, but we didn't realize that for months.
The meat lasted 3 or 5 months or something, so we wasted a bunch of
money and electricity, but the meat never spoiled.


***That's a cow that can run very fast over a quarter mile.

In article , (scott moore) writes:

| I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
| a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
| adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
| its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
| All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
| fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
| electronics ?

The only solution I found to this problem was to get an expensive
SubZero unit which has a separate cooling system for the freezer
and refrigerator sections. If you have the space then a cheaper
solution might be to get separate freezer and refrigerator units.
As far as I know, the problem has nothing to do with (lack of)
modern electronics. It seems to be caused by a combination of
cost-reduced construction and poor thermostat sensor placement.

Before the SubZero I had an expensive (yet still cheap compared
to the SubZero KitchenAid that had the problem you describe.
I even had to tweak it depending on how full it was and on whether
I was going to leave it unopened for a few days. Before the
KitchenAid I had a 1959-vintage Tappan which (until it failed)
regulated the temperature just fine with old mechanical/analog
technology. It appeared to have evaporator coils in both the
refrigerator and freezer sections, but there was only a single
compressor.

Had I realized what I was getting into with the KitchenAid I would
have spent more effort getting the Tappan fixed. Unfortunately I
bought the higher efficiency/lower cost argument for the spiffy
new KitchenAid model and thus suffered with it for seven years
until it failed completely. I've had the SubZero now for about
seven years and so far so good...

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

Joseph Meehan wrote:
scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

Mine have all been rather accurate.

How are you measuring the temperature? Are the door seals in good
condition and the doors properly adjusted?


The question was phrased badly. I should have said "why can't the
refrigerator have a temperature setting, in degrees, and why
can't it keep it to within a few degrees of that?".

The wall thermostat is capable of doing that. Refrigerators are not
(apparently).

scott moore wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote:
scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

Mine have all been rather accurate.

How are you measuring the temperature? Are the door seals in
good condition and the doors properly adjusted?


The question was phrased badly. I should have said "why can't the
refrigerator have a temperature setting, in degrees, and why
can't it keep it to within a few degrees of that?".

They could, but that would be more expensive and require some fans etc.
Different parts of your frig will be a few degrees different normally. You
can use this to your advantage and allow the butter to stay a a little
softer. If the setting showed degrees, think of all the problems they would
have when people put a thermometer in a different part and it was a few
degrees different.


The wall thermostat is capable of doing that. Refrigerators are not
(apparently).

Take a good thermometer and move it around your home. You will find
that there are cooler and warmer places. My second floor is usually several
degrees warmer than the down stare and five or more degrees difference in
different rooms different parts of the day is not unusual.



--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:

scott moore wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote:
scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

Mine have all been rather accurate.

How are you measuring the temperature? Are the door seals in
good condition and the doors properly adjusted?


The question was phrased badly. I should have said "why can't the
refrigerator have a temperature setting, in degrees, and why
can't it keep it to within a few degrees of that?".

They could, but that would be more expensive and require some fans etc.
Different parts of your frig will be a few degrees different normally. You
can use this to your advantage and allow the butter to stay a a little
softer. If the setting showed degrees, think of all the problems they would
have when people put a thermometer in a different part and it was a few
degrees different.

They can and do. A visit to an appliance store should show you a number
of models with real digital temperature controls and the extra sensors,
dampers and circulator fans.

I've got a 6 or so year old GE Profile Arctica unit that does exactly
that and it was not a super expensive model either (though not bottom
end either).

Pete C.




The wall thermostat is capable of doing that. Refrigerators are not
(apparently).

Take a good thermometer and move it around your home. You will find
that there are cooler and warmer places. My second floor is usually several
degrees warmer than the down stare and five or more degrees difference in
different rooms different parts of the day is not unusual.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?

You are probably running the temperature at what is considerd to be too
low. But I do the same thing with a similar Maytag. I keep the box
temperature as cold as possible because the food condition is much
better even after a long time. When the ambient swings and changes the
heat gain the box temperature can easily drop to freezing if you run it
this way.

Manufacturers suggest box temperatures close to 40F. So if the box temp
changed a few degrees it still wouldn't be freezing.

My SubZero is the same temperature all year long.

B

scott moore wrote:
I have owned 5 different refrigerators, and the latest is
a top of the line 6 year old Maytag. All of them have to be
adjusted up and down with the outside temperature. On hot days,
its not cold enough, and on cold days, it freezes lettuce.
All the refrigerators I have seen do this. Isn't there a
fridge that will keep an accurate temperature using modern
electronics ?