I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

Thoughts welcome.

dgk wrote:
I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

WTF wants to sit in a tub of dirty water?? Personally, I wouldn't even
consider buying a house without a shower. Or one that has only a shower in
a tub.

I spent my college years sitting in a claw foot tub trying to shower with a
shower head attached to a rubber hose. Later on, I spent a decade and a
half showering in a tub. Tubs aren't meant for showering, IMO.

When I finally built a house I built it with shower stalls. Sizeable ones
(one is 4x5, other 4x8)...no doors or curtains, semi-open sides. There is a
separate "garden tub" too but only because code required a tub - it is never
used.


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dgk wrote:
I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true?

It is much easier and safer to stop into a shower with a low curb that
to step into and out of a tub with a larger step over and likely a rounded
bottom and slippery finish.

When I remodel my master bath it will have a separate shower. Actually
it likely will not have a bath, I have not decided yet, but I have room
either way.

I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

Thoughts welcome.

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Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

i live in a house that is 16' wide. i like showers. my wife likes
baths. so like most people, we have a tub/shower unit. lots of
personal preference involved, but i'd side for getting rid of it.

"dgk" wrote in message
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I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

Thoughts welcome.


Lots of opinions here! I had a long list of things I wanted when house
hunting. A separate stall shower was nowhere on the list. I'd rather have
the space. There's nothing wrong with showers in tubs, unless it's difficult
for someone in the house to step over the side of the tub.

Doug Kanter wrote:

Lots of opinions here! I had a long list of things I wanted when house
hunting. A separate stall shower was nowhere on the list. I'd rather have
the space. There's nothing wrong with showers in tubs, unless it's difficult
for someone in the house to step over the side of the tub.

And eventually it always will be. 'less you're not planning on getting
old or injured.

R

dgk wrote:
I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

Thoughts welcome.


Personally, I'd pull out the bathtub and just leave the shower. Baths
disgust me - I can't stand the thought of sitting in dirty water. Ick.
We have one bathroom with just a tub and one with just a shower. We
call the tub bathroom the "half bath", and in 20 years, I don't think
it's been used once.

"RicodJour" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Lots of opinions here! I had a long list of things I wanted when house
hunting. A separate stall shower was nowhere on the list. I'd rather have
the space. There's nothing wrong with showers in tubs, unless it's
difficult
for someone in the house to step over the side of the tub.

And eventually it always will be. 'less you're not planning on getting
old or injured.

R


.....or living there that long.

On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:48:37 GMT, "dadiOH"
wrote:

dgk wrote:
I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be

The only real advantage I can see is that some older or handicapped
people have trouble getting in and out of tubs, so it's good if
there's at least one shower-stall in the building that doesn't require
picking up your feet to get in.

Personally, I'd pull out the bathtub and just leave the shower. Baths
disgust me - I can't stand the thought of sitting in dirty water. Ick.
We have one bathroom with just a tub and one with just a shower. We
call the tub bathroom the "half bath", and in 20 years, I don't think
it's been used once.


Admit it... you're really a gypsy, aren't you?

On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:48:37 GMT, "dadiOH"
wrote:

dgk wrote:
I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining
them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom
because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

WTF wants to sit in a tub of dirty water?? Personally, I wouldn't even
consider buying a house without a shower. Or one that has only a shower in
a tub.

I spent my college years sitting in a claw foot tub trying to shower with a
shower head attached to a rubber hose. Later on, I spent a decade and a
half showering in a tub. Tubs aren't meant for showering, IMO.

When I finally built a house I built it with shower stalls. Sizeable ones
(one is 4x5, other 4x8)...no doors or curtains, semi-open sides. There is a
separate "garden tub" too but only because code required a tub - it is never
used.

Interesting view. I haven't used the tub in years but I don't really
worry about lying in dirty water. After all, the dirt comes from me
and is vastly diluted by the water. Plus you get to throw in all those
nifty bubble things that accumulate over the years. Not to mention the
toy submarines with baking soda ballast.

I think that soaking in hot water is good for aching muscles, and I
seem to get more of those as I get older. The gross thing to me is
just drying off after the bath. I'd rather turn on the shower for a
few seconds to rinse off the various ungents and dirt. That's why a
shower and bath combination makes sense.

I wasn't planning on having a shower head attached to a rubber hose.
Oh, that's the other really weird thing about the stall shower. The
water outlet is dead center overhead. It drove me crazy for the first
few weeks until I found an extension that I could use to get the
shower head over on the side. I don't like water coming straight down
at me apparently.

Personally, I'd pull out the bathtub and just leave the shower. Baths
disgust me - I can't stand the thought of sitting in dirty water. Ick.
We have one bathroom with just a tub and one with just a shower. We
call the tub bathroom the "half bath", and in 20 years, I don't think
it's been used once.


Admit it... you're really a gypsy, aren't you?

Huh? What on earth is that supposed to mean? Even as a child when I
took a bath I always finished with a quick shower to rinse off.
Otherwise you have all that revolting soap and bubble slime on your
skin. Since our tub doesn't have a shower option, I can't imagine ever
using it. Again, I say, "Ick". To me, that's like not showering before
you get into a swimming pool. Eeeeeuww.

"dgk" wrote in message

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer.

I'd toss the tub and make a larger, more elegant shower and still have room
for a cabinet or whatever. People today tend to take more showers than
baths. Showers are easier to get in and out of for older or otherwise
handicapped people.

Friend built a house about 20 years ago and did not put a shower of any kind
in the one bathroom. They all use the shower in the downstairs bathroom.

On Fri, 12 May 2006 08:49:42 -0400, dgk wrote:

I have a small house (18' wide) that has a small bathroom The odd
thing to me is that there is a stall shower and a separate tub without
a shower. I can't understand why they wasted space by not combining

In theory, one person could take a bath and another a shower at the
same time. I don't know how often that happens.

I have a bathtub and a shower and mostly take baths (long story), but
when I take a shower, I use the shower stall. It's flatter on the
bottom, and it has a textured surface. Both reasons that it is less
likely I'll fall.

I don't like those stickup strips for bathtubs, because I'm sure they
will feel bad when I'm taking a bath. But a lot of people have them,
which seems to me to mean that they are afraid of falling.

them, and I have another thread going about replacing the tub and
installing a shower. But, my original thought was to demolish the
shower stall and open up the area and perhaps put in a small cabinet
(and place for the cat litterbox) and have room for a nicer sink area.

However I was talked out of removing the shower on the grounds that a
separate stall shower is a big selling point and that people really
like them. Is it true? I would think that having an open room would be
nicer. Currently there is a narrow corridor as you enter the bathroom

A matter of taste. One would have to take a survey.

because the stall shower (big tile thing) is on the left as you enter
the bathroom, and then it opens up as you pass by. Plus, the shower is
dark because it faces the corridor and the only light that gets in is
reflecting in.

Most showers don't have lights, afaik. My little bathroom has a
ceiling light and that illuminates the shower. I have a folding,
translucent plastic door**, and it lets in the light, plus the door
stops about 6 inches from the top, so that lets light in too. White
walls in the bathroom so it's pretty light in the shower, but even if
it weren't, I think I could find my body.

**It's probably brittle after 27 years, so I'm very gentle.


Thoughts welcome.