I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in the
bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's) early
demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning waterbar is
guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling out the bottom
rack with silverware dangling through these holes will ensure a fair number
of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things won't
fall through?

Thanks,
Be

You are right!!! try putting a hand full of chop sticks in there sure
failure of the dishwasher for sure.
Best bet is to just wash the silverware in the sink by hand.
Muff


"BE" wrote in message
.. .
I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in
the
bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's) early
demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning waterbar is
guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling out the
bottom
rack with silverware dangling through these holes will ensure a fair
number
of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things
won't
fall through?

Thanks,
Be

BE wrote:

I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in the
bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's) early
demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning waterbar is
guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling out the bottom
rack with silverware dangling through these holes will ensure a fair number
of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things won't
fall through?

Thanks,
Be


Maybe the design reasoning is that if they used a smaller mesh too many
food particles would end up stuck in it?

Notwithstanding that the typical spray arm shoots water up from below
the rack?

You could prolly experiment by cutting squares out of a plastic coffee
can lid and punching some holes in it with a paper punch.

HTH,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Life is like a sewer -- what you get out of it depends on what
you put into it."

On Wed 10 May 2006 08:33:30a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it BE?

I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in
the bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's)
early demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually
they saw through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the
larger hole is born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning
waterbar is guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling
out the bottom rack with silverware dangling through these holes will
ensure a fair number of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life
of the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut
into squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so
things won't fall through?

If you were more careful about how you loaded the silverware basket, you
might not have this problem.

--

Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________ ___________

"How can a nation be great if it's bread taste like Kleenex?"

Julia Child

In article , BE says...

I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in the
bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's) early
demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning waterbar is
guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling out the bottom
rack with silverware dangling through these holes will ensure a fair number
of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

"Of course you toss knives point first..." Un-hunh...well, dont' get *me*
started on a rant about folks who treat stuff roughly, then blame the design of
whatever they break!

That said, my GE did come with a kind of holder to be placed under certain
utensils (the heads of the utensils..) so as not to let them slip through.


Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things won't
fall through?

You wouldn't want that as it would block the dishwasher action.

SO either see if you have all the original doo-dads that came with your washer
(yeah, I know, the applications of some of these aren't ovbious...), or develop
a habit of *placing* things in their places, and given the situation you have,
avoiding putting knives where you've already cut through.

Banty


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"BE" wrote in message
Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

Beats me, We recently replaced a 20 you Kitchen Aid with the original tray
and no holes. Maybe you need a better brand of dw? Put the knives in point
up?

On 5/10/06 12:24 PM, in article
, "Wayne Boatwright"
wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com wrote:

If you were more careful about how you loaded the silverware basket, you
might not have this problem.

The problem is that I am meticulous about these things, but children and a
non-meticulous wife are also present.

Be

On 5/10/06 12:50 PM, in article , "Banty"
wrote:

In article , BE says...

I swear that these things are designed with holes that are too large in the
bottom on purpose - to facilitate their (and their dishwasher's) early
demise. Of course you toss knives in point first and eventually they saw
through the plastic joint(s) in the waffle pattern and the larger hole is
born. Then the silverware falls through, and the spinning waterbar is
guaranteed to whack something from time to time. And pulling out the bottom
rack with silverware dangling through these holes will ensure a fair number
of scratches on the inside of the dishwasher door.

I believe these are designed this way to help shorten the overall life of
the dishwasher.

OK, end of rant.

"Of course you toss knives point first..." Un-hunh...well, dont' get *me*
started on a rant about folks who treat stuff roughly, then blame the design
of
whatever they break!

I don't do that, but others (who refuse instructions to do otherwise) do.


That said, my GE did come with a kind of holder to be placed under certain
utensils (the heads of the utensils..) so as not to let them slip through.


Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things won't
fall through?

You wouldn't want that as it would block the dishwasher action.

SO either see if you have all the original doo-dads that came with your
washer
(yeah, I know, the applications of some of these aren't ovbious...), or
develop
a habit of *placing* things in their places, and given the situation you have,
avoiding putting knives where you've already cut through.

Banty

On 10 May 2006 10:50:44 -0700, Banty wrote:

In article , BE says...

Does anyone sell some kind of plastic waffle material that I can cut into
squares and create a better bottom for the silverware rack, so things won't
fall through?

Just look around. Things like this don't have to be paid for. They
are everywhere.

The containers that strawberries and cherry tomatoes come in might be
useful. they're not all the same, and though light ones might last a
lotng time, there may be heavier ones.

It could be made out of wood too. If it dries out between uses, it
will last a long time, and if it doesn't, it will still last a couple
years. Then make another one.

It doesn't have to be waffle, it just has to have holes.

You wouldn't want that as it would block the dishwasher action.

Even if there were no holes, the water would still come out through
the sides.

SO either see if you have all the original doo-dads that came with your washer
(yeah, I know, the applications of some of these aren't ovbious...), or develop
a habit of *placing* things in their places, and given the situation you have,
avoiding putting knives where you've already cut through.

Banty