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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
Is there any disadvantage to this? I got a bid for tile floor installation
and the contractor was not interested in using quickset. I'd like quickset since they need to do the hallways and if we can't walk in the hallways for a couple days, then we can't get to the bedrooms or bathrooms and would have to stay in a hotel those days which is a lot of extra expense and a big hassle. With quickset, they could install tile in the morning and we could walk on it that evening. |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
I use rapid set for various reasons, particularly for your
situation, but unless you're experienced using it, it can a negative. Because it sets quickly, it has the potential of not bonding well if not used exactly right, while typical thinset is more forgiving to use. If I need to set just a few tiles, such as with a repair job, I'll use Home Depot's rapid set, which has a very short open time, less than 1/2 hour. Since a hallway could take a couple or few hours with all the cuts and door jams, the above brand is not practical. My favorite brand to use when I need a longer workability of the thinset is a liquid that Laticrete makes called "Rapid Set". It resembles 2% milk and is mixed with _plain_ (not polymer based multi purpose) thinset. This makes a strong multi-purpose mix that will have between 1 and 2 hours of open-time, and can be walked on in about 4 to 6 hours. Every hour after 4 hours makes it harder and harder, so it would be best if you could come home late that evening, maybe 8 or 9 pm. Better to give it 7 hours to set then to take chances with 4 hours. Try to find a tiler who understands this stuff. There's no reason you should have to leave the home. thetiler |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
Doesn't the size of the tile determine what is used to adhere it?
Don't shoot me here, but isn't mastic OK for tiles up to about 6 inches but won't cure properly under a 12" tile? |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
"thetiler" wrote:
My favorite brand to use when I need a longer workability of the thinset is a liquid that Laticrete makes called "Rapid Set". It resembles 2% milk and is mixed with _plain_ (not polymer based multi purpose) thinset. They used a lot of this Laticrete on my house, no problems with it a year later. (I know, not much time) Both quick and later standard set. -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
Forget what anyone says, never use mastic to set floor tiles.
It takes a long long time for it to fully harden, and in that time you'll step on the tiles and move them slightly, breaking the bond. With the great thinsets available, there's no reason to ever use mastic to set floor tile. The temptation is that mastic comes pre-mixed and therefore is easier to use. Actually it only takes a couple of minutes to dump out some thinset in a bucket, add water and achieve a similar setting adhesive that will harden in hours, and not weeks or months. thetiler |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
In article .com,
thetiler wrote: Forget what anyone says, never use mastic to set floor tiles. It takes a long long time for it to fully harden, and in that time you'll step on the tiles and move them slightly, breaking the bond. With the great thinsets available, there's no reason to ever use mastic to set floor tile. The temptation is that mastic comes pre-mixed and therefore is easier to use. Actually it only takes a couple of minutes to dump out some thinset in a bucket, add water and achieve a similar setting adhesive that will harden in hours, and not weeks or months. thetiler I followed your advice about my living room ceramic floor tile job a couple weeks ago. Just wanted to let you know everything you told me was accurate and made the job much less stressful. The floor looks beautiful. I just wanted to thank you for your assistance. -Frank -- Here's some of my work: http://www.franksknives.com/ |
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Quickset tile adhesive not recommended?
That's great Frank. The reason I post here is to help people
do things right. I'm just a poor, burned out, falling apart old tileman, but people like me :-) thetiler |
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