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Drill leaks electricity to case
Ignoramus3408 wrote:
I have this Black and Decker 450 RPM drill: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/450-rpm-drill.jpg When plugged into a GFCI outlet, it leaks electricity to ground and pops the GFCI breaker. The leak is substantial, I believe, however when plugged into a regular breaker (and handled with caution appropriate for leaks to case), it actually works and does not blow the breaker. So, I think, the leak is limited in extent. To trip a regular breaker, it'd have to be "leaking" 15Amps worth of electricity. If you're leaking 15Amps worth of electricity, then the stuff it's leaking into is being cooked with a couple thousand watts (think several horsepower worth of power). GFCI's trip at the few milliamp level (I forget the official number). Currents as small as 100 microamps can cause heart fibrilation. Although typically only a fraction of the current flowing through your hands or feet will go to your heart (I've read a couple of medical papers where they take fresh cadavers and run electricity through them sideways, upways, downways, etc, measuring heart current so there must be some interest in this number.) My question is, what is the most likely culprit and how to approach repair of it. Looking at the picture, grunge grease or dirt in the plug, cable, or drill body or motor can be enough to trip the GFCI. Looks like somebody already changed the plug, check it out and make sure they don't cross-connect neutral with ground (this is guaranteed to trip a GFCI, unless you've got an open ground connection... the myriad problems with multiple failure diagnosis!) What would be the typical application [for this kind of drill] I hear that California has been having some technical problems with their method of execution :-). Timi |
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Drill leaks electricity to case
Ignoramus3408 wrote:
A question: can it be related to brushes in some way? Truly excessive dirt/dust/grunge on the brushes could do this, but if it were that bad then probably the drill wouldn't run. On very heavily used and abused motors you can find metallic dust from the brushes etc. distributed over everything and this can certainly cause leakage. That drill looks used enough that it could fall in this category. Do check where the brushes attach for grunge as well as the insulators, and also look over the motor windings. Does it trip the breaker even when the drill isn't on? If so, look on everything on the upstream side of the switch all the way to the plug (including the switch.) Does it only trip the breaker with the drill is on? Then you should be looking at the windings and grunge that would cause leakage from the brushes to the body. Tim. |
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