Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.

Assuming it's an overhead service, the procedure is to remove the existing
service entrance cable, meter pan, panel, and grounding system and replace
all with 200 amp rated equipment. In the Northeast this typically runs from
$1500 to $2500


"Dave" wrote in message
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Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.

If you have the following breakers;

50 electric range
40 central a/c
30 water heater
30 dryer
60 subpanel of 120V circuits
------
210 total

Then what is the appropriate service?

RBM (remove this) wrote:
Assuming it's an overhead service, the procedure is to remove the existing
service entrance cable, meter pan, panel, and grounding system and replace
all with 200 amp rated equipment. In the Northeast this typically runs from
$1500 to $2500


"Dave" wrote:
Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.

"Dave" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you have the following breakers;

50 electric range
40 central a/c
30 water heater
30 dryer
60 subpanel of 120V circuits
------
210 total

Then what is the appropriate service?

The number and size of the breakers does not determine the service required.
That is determined by load. What is the actual load assuming that the AC
will be running while you are cooking and the dryer is working? I'd opt for
200A but you may get away with 100A real load. You have to read the
nameplates.

"Dave" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you have the following breakers;

50 electric range
40 central a/c
30 water heater
30 dryer
60 subpanel of 120V circuits
------
210 total

Then what is the appropriate service?


Service size is calculated using various methods outlined in article 220 of the NEC. Some
of the general load is allowed to reduced by a demand factor. That changes depending on
what calculation you use.

There may be an online calculator somewhere....

Dave wrote:
If you have the following breakers;

50 electric range
40 central a/c
30 water heater
30 dryer
60 subpanel of 120V circuits
------
210 total

Then what is the appropriate service?

RBM (remove this) wrote:
Assuming it's an overhead service, the procedure is to remove the existing
service entrance cable, meter pan, panel, and grounding system and replace
all with 200 amp rated equipment. In the Northeast this typically runs from
$1500 to $2500


"Dave" wrote:
Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.



The size of the service is found by taking the finished square feet of
the dwelling and multiplying by three. That gives you the volt-amperes
of lighting and convenience receptacle outlets that are not required by
another section of the code. You then add 2400 volt-amperes for each
kitchen counter circuit, two required; a laundry circuit; each bathroom
receptacle circuit, one required; the volt-ampere rating of each
appliance fastened in place, the larger of the heating and air
conditioning loads and so forth. The resultant volt amperes sum is
divided by your service voltage to obtain the size of your service in
amperes. There are on line tutorials that will walk you through that
process. Breakers are sized to protect the conductors of the circuit
through which they are supplied not by the loads those circuits actually
carry. The sum of the breaker ratings tells you nothing about the size
of your service.
--
Tom Horne

200 would be fine



"Dave" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you have the following breakers;

50 electric range
40 central a/c
30 water heater
30 dryer
60 subpanel of 120V circuits
------
210 total

Then what is the appropriate service?

RBM (remove this) wrote:
Assuming it's an overhead service, the procedure is to remove the
existing
service entrance cable, meter pan, panel, and grounding system and
replace
all with 200 amp rated equipment. In the Northeast this typically runs
from
$1500 to $2500


"Dave" wrote:
Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.

"Dave" wrote in message
oups.com...
Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.


Sure I have do it.

Your really not serious are you, cost and procedure BLIND.

What is the connected/calculated load? How do you know you need a 200 amp
service?
If your adding up the numbers on the breakers, you need to call a licensed
local contractor.

underground or overhead service conductors?
all in one panel or meter and panel combo? location of the meter and panel
is really important.
Location required by utility or jurisdiction?
Permits?

On 13 Jan 2006 09:40:19 -0800, "Dave" wrote:

Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.

Yep
I opened a phone book, looked under "E" and found the word
"electrcians". I called the one with the biggest ad. The guy came
while I was at work and did the job. When I got home all my lights
worked so I guess he changed it. The cost was 27.8 billion dollars.
I'm pleased. You can do the same.

wrote:
[...]
Rules of thumb
Dryers are 5000va (220.18)
Ranges are 8000va (220.19)
Water heaters are 4500 or 5500
HVAC has to be based on the largerr of heat or A/C

And if this adds up to over 100 amps?

SQLit wrote:
"Dave" wrote:

Anyone done this? What was the approximate procedure and cost? Thanks.


Sure I have do it.

Your really not serious are you, cost and procedure BLIND.

That's what I'm asking.

What is the connected/calculated load?

Minimal household with electric range, dryer, and hot water, but I want
excess capacity for two workshop sub-panels and welder outlets.

How do you know you need a 200 amp service?

Adding two sub-panels makes it likely?

If your adding up the numbers on the breakers, you need to call a licensed
local contractor.

I can do grade-school math.

underground or overhead service conductors?

Overhead.

all in one panel or meter and panel combo? location of the meter and panel
is really important.

Meter is outside. Panel is on basement wall.

Location required by utility or jurisdiction?

I doubt the panel location would have to move.

Permits?

Unknown.