I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ


make your measurements for Black Pipe and run your own lines. I did
this myself and the cost was for materials only: about $50 ( fifty
dollars ). Use teflon pipe dope for the connections: No TAPE! Teflon
pipe dope.

What's with this thousands of dollars baloney. Use pipe hangers to
secure the pipes into position. IOW, get some *guy* friend/neighbor
to do this. It takes about an hour once you have the stuff cut to
length and threaded at Ace Hardware.

Be sure to include a shut-off valve to meet code. The valve should be
AT the stove.

Lg
Chicago

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

snip

It depends on the type of house construction and how far the line has
to be run. If the house has a basement without a finished ceiling,
and the gas line to the furnace is not far from the kitchen location,
this is not a big job.

If the house is built on a slab (no basement or crawl space), and the
kitchen is far from the gas line, then it is more difficult.

A crawl space or a basement with all finished ceilings is somewhere in
between.

Hard to estimate $$ as it depends on the above plus local labor rates,
but once you know the above information, a call or two to local
plumbers should get you a ballpark. For the first situation
(unfinished basement, existing gas line to furnace runs near kitchen)
it should be well under $1000 in most areas. Pretty much the same
deal for a gas dryer line.

HTH,

Paul

In news:
typed:
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal
preference is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves.
Someone told me that even if the home has gas coming into it, for
heating, it is hugely expensive to have a line run for a stove.

snip

It depends on the type of house construction and how far the line has
to be run. If the house has a basement without a finished ceiling,
and the gas line to the furnace is not far from the kitchen location,
this is not a big job.

If the house is built on a slab (no basement or crawl space), and the
kitchen is far from the gas line, then it is more difficult.

A crawl space or a basement with all finished ceilings is somewhere in
between.

Hard to estimate $$ as it depends on the above plus local labor rates,
but once you know the above information, a call or two to local
plumbers should get you a ballpark. For the first situation
(unfinished basement, existing gas line to furnace runs near kitchen)
it should be well under $1000 in most areas. Pretty much the same
deal for a gas dryer line.

HTH,

Paul

You've given me a lot of helpful info. I am definately not comfortable
doing this myself. With my luck I'd cause the house to blow up. Now I
know what info I need when I make my calls for an estimate. thanks Paul.

bonnie

"Bonnie Jean" wrote:

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

It cost me $450 (here outside Chicago) for a plumber to add a gas stove
tap, and move the dryer over a couple of feet. About 4 hours work, as
the pipe was right close.

Of course, in this case the existing pipe has to be taken apart and the
new pieces fitted in. A pro plumber should have the tool to cut and
thread pipe, so it isn't that big a thing. Just ask them if they work
with black gas pipe when you call for an estimate.

Bonnie Jean wrote:
I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ

We just had a gas line run for a new gas range for $500, including
permit. We have an unfinished basement so the installation was not
particularly troublesome. Most places we called charged by the foot
(length of the gas line). Get mulitple bids for the work- we had bids
of $500, $700, and $1000.

Neil

Wow, I should install gas lines as a side job.

Granted, hiring a professional means he's insured if anything goes
wrong. But this isn't rocket science.
I recently ran a gas line for my dryer (the old line was done
improperly) in under an hour. I just shut off the gas at the meter.
After turning it back on you just have to check for leaks and relight
any appliances with pilots (in my case just the water heater).

Mike

wrote:
Wow, I should install gas lines as a side job.

Granted, hiring a professional means he's insured if anything goes
wrong. But this isn't rocket science.
I recently ran a gas line for my dryer (the old line was done
improperly) in under an hour. I just shut off the gas at the meter.
After turning it back on you just have to check for leaks and relight
any appliances with pilots (in my case just the water heater).

Mike

Hiring a professional also means not having to deal with the permit and
inspection. But permitting is a whole nuther thread. Our job involved
a lot more than just the gas line for the stove, but it's true that it
isn't hard to run a line yourself.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ


If you dont have gas coming in, it could be very costly. If you do
have gas in the house, there is mst likely a gas stove pipe where a
person would likely put the stove. If not, putting in some black pipe
is not all that difficult, or a plumber should not take too many
hours. Of course it all depends on location in the house, length of
pipe, etc, If you want prices, call a plumber. Asking for prices on
a newsgroup is assenine, since every location and every business is
different. You might find a reliable handyman to do the work too.
Gas pipe is much easier to work with than plumbing because it dont
normally rust together.

"You might find a reliable handyman to do the work too.
Gas pipe is much easier to work with than plumbing because it dont
normally rust together."

Yeah, but if you screw it up, instead of a leak you can get a big BOOM!
A gas pipe installation is probably the last thing a homeowner should
turn over to a "handyman."

On 7 Dec 2005 16:35:08 -0800, wrote:

"You might find a reliable handyman to do the work too.
Gas pipe is much easier to work with than plumbing because it dont
normally rust together."

Yeah, but if you screw it up, instead of a leak you can get a big BOOM!
A gas pipe installation is probably the last thing a homeowner should
turn over to a "handyman."

There are two kinds of handyman. Good ones and bad ones. I was in
that business for many years, and I always did my work properly and
according to the codes.

Some pros do crappy work too...

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ


If you dont have gas coming in, it could be very costly. If you do
have gas in the house, there is mst likely a gas stove pipe where a
person would likely put the stove. If not, putting in some black pipe
is not all that difficult, or a plumber should not take too many
hours. Of course it all depends on location in the house, length of
pipe, etc, If you want prices, call a plumber. Asking for prices on
a newsgroup is assenine, since every location and every business is
different. You might find a reliable handyman to do the work too.
Gas pipe is much easier to work with than plumbing because it dont
normally rust together.

In news:
typed:
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:

I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal
preference is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves.
Someone told me that even if the home has gas coming into it, for
heating, it is hugely expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do
this if it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of
labor in the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough
idea. Are we talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a
gas company person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2
if I wanted a line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ


If you dont have gas coming in, it could be very costly. If you do
have gas in the house, there is mst likely a gas stove pipe where a
person would likely put the stove. If not, putting in some black pipe
is not all that difficult, or a plumber should not take too many
hours. Of course it all depends on location in the house, length of
pipe, etc, If you want prices, call a plumber. Asking for prices on
a newsgroup is assenine, since every location and every business is
different. You might find a reliable handyman to do the work too.
Gas pipe is much easier to work with than plumbing because it dont
normally rust together.

I gleened from other posts that the cost will vary by location and the
length of pipe required for the job. And from some of the posts I WAS
able to get an idea of the cost...at least that it would be in my
affordable range. So it wasn't such an asinine question. It's really
not necessary nor nice to say that to someone anyway. If you think the
question is dumb, just move on to the next thread next time.
Bonnie

wrote:

Yeah, but if you screw it up, instead of a leak you can get a big BOOM!
A gas pipe installation is probably the last thing a homeowner should
turn over to a "handyman."

Because of the odor they add to the gas, the human nose is a pretty good
detector of natural gas. But yes, if you have any doubts, don't fool
with it.

After I had the gas work done inside, I noticed once in a while, a faint
odor of gas near the meter, so I called the gas co. To summarize, gas
valves can leak if they have been used after a long period of
inactivity, and they have to be greased to fix the leak.

"There are two kinds of handyman. Good ones and bad ones. I was in
that business for many years, and I always did my work properly and
according to the codes.

Some pros do crappy work too... "

And are you licensed to do gas work? Do you get a permit? And what
happens when the handyman job burns the house down and the insurance
company starts to ask those questions before paying the claim?

Paul Franklin wrote:
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote:


I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.


snip

It depends on the type of house construction and how far the line has
to be run. If the house has a basement without a finished ceiling,
and the gas line to the furnace is not far from the kitchen location,
this is not a big job.

If the house is built on a slab (no basement or crawl space), and the
kitchen is far from the gas line, then it is more difficult.

A crawl space or a basement with all finished ceilings is somewhere in
between.

Hard to estimate $$ as it depends on the above plus local labor rates,
but once you know the above information, a call or two to local
plumbers should get you a ballpark. For the first situation
(unfinished basement, existing gas line to furnace runs near kitchen)
it should be well under $1000 in most areas. Pretty much the same
deal for a gas dryer line.

HTH,

Paul

have a slab on grade house, Gas line runs through attic.
MC

The one time I ran a gas line for some folks stove, it came out about $150.
The other time when my boss (and company) ran a gas line to hook up a
fireplace, it was $300. Call a couple heating and AC companies, and ask
them. Or appliance companies. Or plumbers.

Not times two for the dryer --c ause they will be onsite with tools already.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
..
..


"Bonnie Jean" wrote in message
...
I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference
is to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that
even if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely
expensive to have a line run for a stove.

Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in
the region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we
talking under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company
person should do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a
line for a gas clothes dryer?

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ

Yep, you really should. Be sure to get a pipe table, threader, nipple tray,
bunch of pipe wrenches, insurance, and of course a gas detector for when
you're through so you can check for leaks.

Shouldn't be more than $5,000 or so to get started. Have at it.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
..
..


wrote in message
ps.com...
Wow, I should install gas lines as a side job.

Granted, hiring a professional means he's insured if anything goes
wrong. But this isn't rocket science.
I recently ran a gas line for my dryer (the old line was done
improperly) in under an hour. I just shut off the gas at the meter.
After turning it back on you just have to check for leaks and relight
any appliances with pilots (in my case just the water heater).

Mike

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message

Not times two for the dryer --c ause they will be onsite with tools
already.

--

Right, and depending on location, the stove may be a branch of the dryer
run.

Even if you don't get the dryer right away, you may want the branch run now
to avoid a lot of work (and money) later. The gasfitter or plumber will run
the dryer line and cap it off at some place saving a lot of labor to break
into a line when the time comes to add it. .

"Bonnie Jean" wrote in message
...
I may be looking for a new home...moving to NC. My personal preference is
to cook with gas. I really hate electric stoves. Someone told me that even
if the home has gas coming into it, for heating, it is hugely expensive to
have a line run for a stove.

Bull....its not.
BTW...Im in NC, and we do this all the time.
In NC, the homeowner cant do this legally either...so shop around and find
someone that will come out and look it over and give you a QUOTE, not an
estimate.


Is this true? Don't want to get my heart set on being able to do this if
it cost too much. I know the cost has to do with the cost of labor in the
region but maybe some of you could give me a rough idea. Are we talking
under a $1000? $3000? Is this something only a gas company person should
do? And would I have to multiply it by 2 if I wanted a line for a gas
clothes dryer?


It depends on the company, the city you are in...Charlotte, Raligh and
Greensboro are the higher rated areas.
You are going to need a secondary regulator, shut off valves and proper
lines to each run. It depends if the company runs black pipe, or stainless
flex. Cost is about the same...the labors less on the flex, cost of the
steel is higher...black pipe is cheap, but labor is very high.
Permits are a must in NC. Only a licenced contractor that is certified in
gas can pull them. Permits are fairly cheap.
Expect anywhere with permits from $250 up, depending on how long the run
is, where it will go, etc.

Thanks in advance for you opinion,
Bonnie in NJ

wrote in message
ps.com...
Wow, I should install gas lines as a side job.


Get your licence, and liability..cause here in NC if you aint got it, you
aint doing it...LOL

BTW...
Breakdown of a typical install.

1-Secondary Regulator, .5lbs. $70
2-Permits $40
3-25 Feet Stainless Steel line $50
4- Shut off valve approved by state $10
5-Stainless fittings, 2 required $20
6-Misc fittings $10
7-labor 2 hours min, estimated $150

Not too bad really...when you consider that if it leaks, you wont pass, if
something happens for the first 3 years after the installation, you are
liable for it here...ONLY if it can be traced back to the original install,
and then part of it falls back on the inspection official..either way, our
insurance pays for it.
It can be more....or less even than that...I ran one the other week for
under $300...just depends on the situation.
NC is a strange state with some of the regs, but I agree, it aint rocket
science..so why do we see some really forked over installs? LOL


Granted, hiring a professional means he's insured if anything goes
wrong. But this isn't rocket science.
I recently ran a gas line for my dryer (the old line was done
improperly) in under an hour. I just shut off the gas at the meter.
After turning it back on you just have to check for leaks and relight
any appliances with pilots (in my case just the water heater).

Mike