Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.

- My house is new (5 months old)
- I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
kitchen and the dining room
- A cold air return runs in this wall

I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey

wrote:
Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.

- My house is new (5 months old)
- I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
kitchen and the dining room
- A cold air return runs in this wall

I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey

I just tore out some drywall for a kitchen remodel and discovered
pieces of dog food lodged 4 feet up in the insulation - mouse storage.
I've also found it in the basement piled on a shim between a door frame
and stud. I get them moving in every once and awhile. Just use the
cheap snap traps - don't want poison around the pets. A bit of bacon
or peanut butter seems to be a good bait. I put them in the closet
near where I feed the dogs - I know the mice travel there and the dogs
don't end up with a trap on their nose.

In article .com,
says...
Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.



I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

If the activity is inside the walls the trick would be getting them to
get to the bait or a trap. If they get into bait in the attic then a
trap in the attic would work too. Concentrate on making sure there is
no debris close to the house...tall grass..wood piles..etc. It will be
impossible to close all the openings on a home a mouse could get in but
you need to try to get as many as you can, ground level and above your
head. There is no poison to dry them out, but you can get secure bait
stations and place them out on the property to help keep numbers from
building up close to the house, thus allowing them to move inside.



Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

The safest trap with children involved will be glue traps. I have never
heard of a mouse chewing a foot off though I have seen and hear often of
rats doing this, mainly because of them being a larger animal if not
stuck well can still struggle about where a mouse is usually caught
tight. Peanut butter works well for bait as well as a couple of drops of
vanilla extract or a smear of chocolate on the trigger... wrapping yarn
or foil around the trigger is said to be another attractant. You can
also purchase the large rat sized bait stations that will easily hide
mouse sized snap or glue traps that will keep children and pets out.


--
Lar

Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.

to email....get rid of the BUGS

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oups.com...
Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.

- My house is new (5 months old)
- I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
kitchen and the dining room
- A cold air return runs in this wall

I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey

If the politically correct liberal apologists that run your province and
your country haven't outlawed them as dangerous predators yet, pick up a cat
or two. They'll make short work of the mice-- sparing your sweet little
angel an important lesson in how life works ;-)

Patrick

On 12 Nov 2005 11:20:34 -0800, wrote:

:
wrote:
: Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.
:
: - My house is new (5 months old)
: - I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
: kitchen and the dining room
: - A cold air return runs in this wall
:
: I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
: killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
: well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
: inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
: that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
: small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
: what the outcome.
:
: Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
: the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
: a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
: that.
:
: I'm in Eastern Ontario...
:
: Thanks a lot.
:
: Corey
:
:I just tore out some drywall for a kitchen remodel and discovered
ieces of dog food lodged 4 feet up in the insulation - mouse storage.
:I've also found it in the basement piled on a shim between a door frame
:and stud. I get them moving in every once and awhile. Just use the
:cheap snap traps - don't want poison around the pets. A bit of bacon
r peanut butter seems to be a good bait. I put them in the closet
:near where I feed the dogs - I know the mice travel there and the dogs
:don't end up with a trap on their nose.

Yes, assuming there's nothing in the walls that sustains them they will
look for food. Whenever I notice mouse problems I put down a mouse trap
or to with a bit of peanut butter for bait. I usually catch all the mice
(usually one or two) in a day or two and don't get bothered by them for
a long time, generally years.

I had animals living under the house and got a recommendation to chase
them out by putting a container with some ammonia down there. They hate
the smell of ammonia and abandoned the premises. You have small
children, but I don't think that a little ammonia poses a threat if you
get some of the evaporating gas where the mice will smell it (you should
check that out, but that's my guess. Ammonia is toxic, but not THAT
toxic. Just don't combine it with bleach or you get chlorine gas, which
is seriously toxic!). That is something you might try if you aren't
successful in trapping them like I have. Maybe you can put a small open
container with some ammonia in it where it will gross them out.

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Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey


When I lived in a colder climate, I would always have a mouse move in
when the fall weather got cold. I tried decon once, and had the mouse
die beneath the kitchen sink - I was able to get it out by fishing the
vacuum into the space from a nearby drawer opening. Seal up all food
packages that can be chewed into and put them on upper shelves if you
don't put them into hard containers. Clean up the crumbs. Put the trap
in their pathway, if they have left signs. My favorite was behind the
fridge because it was nice and warm and kids/pets could not get to it.
I used cheese, which never failed. They won't likely head for the bait
if the usual packages of cereal, flour, cookies, pet food, are still
easily available.

clipped

I just tore out some drywall for a kitchen remodel and discovered
pieces of dog food lodged 4 feet up in the insulation - mouse storage.
I've also found it in the basement piled on a shim between a door frame
and stud. I get them moving in every once and awhile. Just use the
cheap snap traps - don't want poison around the pets. A bit of bacon
or peanut butter seems to be a good bait. I put them in the closet
near where I feed the dogs - I know the mice travel there and the dogs
don't end up with a trap on their nose.

We had the fire department out late one night when the clothes dryer
started putting out really nasty black smoke. They took a look and
found dog food in the gas burner chamber ) Dog chow might be better
bait than cheese ) Ants like it, too )

As far as snap traps go....THese are probably the safest should little kids
stick their fingers in them
http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...&id=prod869134
.. I also catch more mice with these than any other type of snap trap. Push
them up against the wall so that mice are forced to walk thru them as they
scurry along the wall.

You can aslo buy them direct from the manufacturer on the internet.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.

- My house is new (5 months old)
- I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
kitchen and the dining room
- A cold air return runs in this wall

I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross. I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey

HeyBub wrote:

wrote:

Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.



Think cat.


Hi,
They don't like peppermint oil smell. You can have a little bottle with
cap removed and leave it in the wall or sprinkle a few drops once in a
while.
Tony

On 12 Nov 2005 11:04:19 -0800, wrote:

Just as the subject states: I have some mice in my walls.

- My house is new (5 months old)
- I hear them chewing at the framing inside the wall between the
kitchen and the dining room
- A cold air return runs in this wall

I've used Riddex and the like the past with good results as far as
killing the mice. But they usually crawl somewhere, die, rot...and
well -- stink. Fine for a garage or attic area but these guys are
inside the wall. What would be recommended? Traps? Is there poison
that will kill them and dry them out or something? I have pets and
small children so poison and traps are obviously damgerous no matter
what the outcome.

Any thoughts? And any thoughts as to bait on the traps? I hate to use
the glue traps because the mouse gets stuck and usually ends up chewing
a leg off or something gross.

I've used glue traps and usually they struggle for 10 minutes, then
stop struggling until I disturb them to remove them. One of the big
makers of glue traps said that vegetable oil poured on the surface
will let them loose again. (Remember to do this outside.) It's
probably true of all brands, but this was a famous brand for the last
50 years. They make mousetraps and mouse poison boxes too.. Check
their webpages or ask me.

Oh yeah, when I just tried to ask them a question the customer
service person didn't understand, she sent me some free traps,
including a reusuable one. The mice goes in to eat the bait and
somehow can't get out. I haven't caught a mouse with it yet, but I
think I relied on what they called permanent bait. I also saw a
reusable of a different style in a dollar store. it was shaped like
__/ so that when the mouse went in to get the bait you chose, it
tipped over on its vertex (?), angle, and locked.

No way your kids or animals could get hurt by reusable traps.

I've heard that one should wash his hands or wear gloves before
touching this stuff, because the mice can smell your smell, and then
they won't bite, but the customer service person said she hadn't heard
that.


I think there are also glue traps with roofs, like roach traps, so
that what goes on inside is not so noticeable. And it's not so
likely your pet or child will step in one.

Cats are very effective, but I wouldn't be certain that your kid won't
learn a lesson. I believe they often torment a mouse after they have
caught it. I saw this in the cartoons first, but then I saw it real
life. Even if she just sees the cat eat it.... well, she has to grow
up sometime. If you lived on a farm, she know all this already.
Where does she think lambchops, chicken, and steaks come from. OK,
she might not ask about that for a few years yet, and she might not
see anything that you do to the mice either.

After mice die, they sometimes dry up without any smell. I found one
in the basement, and I found one just outside the kitchen door, under
the lawnmower.



I don't need my six year old girl seeing
that.

I'm in Eastern Ontario...

Thanks a lot.

Corey


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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:52:18 -0600, "Jmagerl"
wrote:

As far as snap traps go....THese are probably the safest should little kids
stick their fingers in them
http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...&id=prod869134
. I also catch more mice with these than any other type of snap trap. Push
them up against the wall so that mice are forced to walk thru them as they
scurry along the wall.

It looks like a good trap, but what's funny is they list as one of the
features " Attractive, clean styling. Nobody but you will know it's a
mousetrap."

Yet in the picture, it says right on it: "The better mousetrap / by
Intruder, Inc.". along with a little sketch of a mouse.

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me know if you have posted also.

UGH.. my skin crawls just thinking about it because I've had the same
problem and it was awful!! I havre found the glue traps do not work --
the mice get off of them and when do they do get stuck they make a lot
of noice, very unpleasant. They have these black box type traps that
mice crawl into and do not come out of and you can get someone to put
them in the walls for you. Plus, when the mouse is in there you don't
have to see it when you toss out the trap.


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In article ,
wrote:

LOL
I bet the Fire Dept got a laugh out of that one. That's pretty
bizarre. I dont doubt it though. Living in the country I am
constantly battling mice and occasionally a rat. I can deal with the
mice, but rats are very persistant and tend to freak me out a bit.

You'll like this one. I had a rat chew a hole in the floor next to a
pipe when I was lining in an old trailer house. The pipe was under
the tub. I set traps and all of that stuff. One day I see the rat
run into the bathroom and go down that hole. Immediately I sprayed
some "Great Stuff" foam in the hole. A couple days later I hear
chewing. I follow the sound over to that pipe. Sure enough, that
damn rat is chewing back into the house, right thru that foam. I
could tell it was getting close to the floor surface too because the
foam was moving. I grab a screwdriver and poke a small hole in the
foam. Stuck the tube from the can of "great stuff" into the hole and
wait till I hear chewing again. As soon as I heard the chewing, I put
my finger on the nozzle of that can and pump that hole (and the rat)
full of foam. If you have ever gotten "Great Stuff" (or any similar)
foam on your fingers, you know how hard it is to get off. Imagine
that entire rat coated with that stuff....

I never heard from that rat again !!!!

a little wad of steel wool really discourages chewing through anything.

--
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Operation Iraqi Liberation = O.I.L.

"Jmagerl" wrote in message
...
As far as snap traps go....THese are probably the safest should little
kids
stick their fingers in them

http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...ion=jump&navCo
unt=0&id=prod869134
. I also catch more mice with these than any other type of snap trap.
Push
them up against the wall so that mice are forced to walk thru them as they
scurry along the wall.

These traps are worthless.
My wife bought them once. True, they are safe around children. They are
also, as a result, very safe for the mice. Think about it- How effective do
you think a trap will be that closes with such little force, it won't injure
a toddler's finger? The mouse might thank you for getting that kink out of
his neck, but that would be the only effect.

Buy a real trap. Keep it away from the kids. Or, let the kids learn a life
lesson, to stay away from mouse traps. It only takes once.

ME

In article ,
says...
a little wad of steel wool really discourages chewing through anything.


On the exterior though there will be a chance of an unsightly rust stain
if used.
--
Lar

Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.

to email....get rid of the BUGS

I find that mixing pea gravel with great stuff and than troweling it in
works good too.

"A Veteran for Peace" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

LOL
I bet the Fire Dept got a laugh out of that one. That's pretty
bizarre. I dont doubt it though. Living in the country I am
constantly battling mice and occasionally a rat. I can deal with the
mice, but rats are very persistant and tend to freak me out a bit.

You'll like this one. I had a rat chew a hole in the floor next to a
pipe when I was lining in an old trailer house. The pipe was under
the tub. I set traps and all of that stuff. One day I see the rat
run into the bathroom and go down that hole. Immediately I sprayed
some "Great Stuff" foam in the hole. A couple days later I hear
chewing. I follow the sound over to that pipe. Sure enough, that
damn rat is chewing back into the house, right thru that foam. I
could tell it was getting close to the floor surface too because the
foam was moving. I grab a screwdriver and poke a small hole in the
foam. Stuck the tube from the can of "great stuff" into the hole and
wait till I hear chewing again. As soon as I heard the chewing, I put
my finger on the nozzle of that can and pump that hole (and the rat)
full of foam. If you have ever gotten "Great Stuff" (or any similar)
foam on your fingers, you know how hard it is to get off. Imagine
that entire rat coated with that stuff....

I never heard from that rat again !!!!

a little wad of steel wool really discourages chewing through anything.

--
Impeach Bush ! a noble cause
Operation Iraqi Liberation = O.I.L.

IT doesnt take much force to hold and kill a mouse. They are not Hulk
monsters. Gentle squeezing is all it takes. THe trouble with a regular snap
trap is that 9 out of 10 times the mouse can eat the bait without tripping
trap. I would hot melt glue sunflower seeds to a regular snap trap a find
the seeds gone the next day but no mouse. THe intruder trap gets then every
time. IF you do go for a regular snap trap, get the ones with the plastic
paddles. THey are a tad bit more sensitive than the metal paddle traps but
still not as sensitive as the intruder traps.

"alienz" wrote in message
...

"Jmagerl" wrote in message
...
As far as snap traps go....THese are probably the safest should little
kids
stick their fingers in them

http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...ion=jump&navCo
unt=0&id=prod869134
. I also catch more mice with these than any other type of snap trap.
Push
them up against the wall so that mice are forced to walk thru them as
they
scurry along the wall.

These traps are worthless.
My wife bought them once. True, they are safe around children. They are
also, as a result, very safe for the mice. Think about it- How effective
do
you think a trap will be that closes with such little force, it won't
injure
a toddler's finger? The mouse might thank you for getting that kink out of
his neck, but that would be the only effect.

Buy a real trap. Keep it away from the kids. Or, let the kids learn a life
lesson, to stay away from mouse traps. It only takes once.

ME

clipped
Now if I could only keep those things out of the barn. I have 11 cats
and still got mice and rats in the barn. Cats generally do not kill
rats anyhow, yet they kill chipmunks and gophers which are the same
size.... go figure???
Maybe I need larger cats, like lynx or panther


The rats are probably getting fat and sassy on the cat droppings. I
couldn't convince my hubby that we should have an exterminator for
roaches until I told him the bugs crawl through the cat box before they
tap dance on his dinner plate. That convinced him )

"Jmagerl" wrote:

IT doesnt take much force to hold and kill a mouse. They are not Hulk
monsters. Gentle squeezing is all it takes. THe trouble with a regular snap
trap is that 9 out of 10 times the mouse can eat the bait without tripping
trap. I would hot melt glue sunflower seeds to a regular snap trap a find
the seeds gone the next day but no mouse. THe intruder trap gets then every
time. IF you do go for a regular snap trap, get the ones with the plastic
paddles. THey are a tad bit more sensitive than the metal paddle traps but
still not as sensitive as the intruder traps.

I had some rats in the garage early this year. I used standard snap
rat traps and baited them by soaking cotton twine in peanut butter and
tying several turns of it around the trigger, They couldn't just lick
it off.

The traps on the floor didn't catch any, but the one on top of a
folding trailer about 4 feet off the floor caught all three in two
days. I never had to re-bait it, and the rat blood left on the trap
didn't deter them at all.
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Spammers are Scammers. Exterminate them.

One of the big
makers of glue traps said that vegetable oil poured on the surface
will let them loose again. (Remember to do this outside.)

Why? That'll just have them running right back into the house! Better to
just kill them.