Putting a bathroom in the basement and have to rough it in. Any tips or
tricks to help me after I bust up the concrete floor?

Thanks

First - Make sure there is nothing under, or in, the slab like pipes or
what not.

Second - Make a cut with a circular saw and a masonary blade outlining
where you want your openings.

Third - Get out your sledge hammer and pound away.

Options - Rent/borrow a demolition hammer and/or a concrete saw. These
tools will add to the cost but may make it easier in the long run. It
may not actually be faster, given trips to rental yard, etc, if your
job is small.

No wrote:
First - Make sure there is nothing under, or in, the slab like pipes or
what not.

Second - Make a cut with a circular saw and a masonary blade outlining
where you want your openings.

Third - Get out your sledge hammer and pound away.

Options - Rent/borrow a demolition hammer and/or a concrete saw. These
tools will add to the cost but may make it easier in the long run. It
may not actually be faster, given trips to rental yard, etc, if your
job is small.

I rented a rotary hammer, drilled several holes on the perimerter of
the cutout then smashed away with the sledge. Didn't take long and yes
it does not make a neat hole but who cares, you need to put in new
cement anyhow and decent floor covering anyhow. There are places where
neatness counts and others where is doesn't.

Harry K

Putting a bathroom in the basement and have to rough it in. Any tips or
tricks to help me after I bust up the concrete floor?

A diamond blade cutting wheel works wonders on concrete slabs, when
used in conjunction with an electric jackhammer, both available at any
diy rental place. Cut the outline first and then jack the rest out.
Makes a wonderful mess.

I'd use the rotary drill and drill some holes and then sue the sledge. A lot
less dust and less mess.

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
I'd use the rotary drill and drill some holes and then sue the sledge. A
lot less dust and less mess.

You'll need a darned good lawyer.

-Tim

Diamond blade saw and the basement = LOTS OF DUST!!!

I assume you are putting in an ejector pump for the bathroom right??

I located the pump not too far from the bathroom.

What I did was break up the concrete with a sledge hammer (its not too
thick)
First the ejector pump well (biggest hole) then from there I made a few
holes where the pictures would be. I made little tunnels to the other
holes.
I dry fitted all my pipes (shower, toilet and sink) when all looked
good
I glued it all together. Backfilled all the pipes and all is working
well.

The reason why I didnt just break up all the concrete was that I didnt
feel like replacing all the concrete. I only had to patchup a few
holes here and there....

The best question would be.... How did I tunnel out all that sand??
Easy I just used
a shopvac. The sand is fine and dry. Very easy to get out.

Just a thought

wrote in message
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from there I made a few
holes where the pictures would be.

OK, I'm not trying to be a smarta**, but what in the world are "pictures" as
they relate to this context?

-Tim

wrote in message
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Diamond blade saw and the basement = LOTS OF DUST!!!


Did this for my parents years ago with one of those cheapo abrasive blades
that go on a circ saw. Lots of dust is the understatement of the year. You
literally couldn't see 4' in front of you in the room, and cleaning up the
layer of dust that coated everything in the whole house was horrible (and it
turned back into concrete if it got a little wet, .e.g. a damp dust rag...)

-Tim

Hi and thanks for all the replies, I am going to break up the concrete and
connect to the main drain, what slope should I have? Toilet will be about 12
feet from the main.
wrote in message
oups.com...
I assume you are putting in an ejector pump for the bathroom right??

I located the pump not too far from the bathroom.

What I did was break up the concrete with a sledge hammer (its not too
thick)
First the ejector pump well (biggest hole) then from there I made a few
holes where the pictures would be. I made little tunnels to the other
holes.
I dry fitted all my pipes (shower, toilet and sink) when all looked
good
I glued it all together. Backfilled all the pipes and all is working
well.

The reason why I didnt just break up all the concrete was that I didnt
feel like replacing all the concrete. I only had to patchup a few
holes here and there....

The best question would be.... How did I tunnel out all that sand??
Easy I just used
a shopvac. The sand is fine and dry. Very easy to get out.

Just a thought

On 2005-09-29, Tim Fischer wrote:

wrote:

from there I made a few holes where the pictures would be.

but what in the world are "pictures" as they relate to this context?

BocesLib must have meant "fittings", holes would be requires wherever
fittings would be in his method.

Cheers, Wayne

Rick wrote:
Hi and thanks for all the replies, I am going to break up the concrete and
connect to the main drain, what slope should I have? Toilet will be about 12
feet from the main.

1/4" slope per foot.

More important, have you given thought to how you will
vent all these fixtures?

Can we assume that city inspection will not be required?

Jim

opps typo... pictures = fixtures...

Wow my spelling is shot to ****.

Sorry

Are they allowing white PVC under the ground now???

I recall a few years ago they (around here on Nassau County, NY)
they wanted cast iron to be used. I think they've changed that
policy, but I was just wondering what others are allowed to use
in their neck of the woods.

Tom

Did this for my parents years ago with one of those cheapo abrasive blades
that go on a circ saw. Lots of dust is the understatement of the year. You
literally couldn't see 4' in front of you in the room, and cleaning up the
layer of dust that coated everything in the whole house was horrible (and it
turned back into concrete if it got a little wet, .e.g. a damp dust rag...)

Yup, you gotta plan for this appropriately.

Turn off the central air for a while, surround the work area with
plastic hanging from the ceiling, adequate cross-ventilation to carry
the dust out... wear appropriate ppe, send the wife and kids out.

You (the OP) get the picture.