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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:32:01 -0500, anoldfart2 wrote:

I dont know if this is on topic or not because I am not sure what they
are? I heard the term used for those in store self serve photo
developing machines but have seen it used other ways too. What is it?
Is this just another of those buzz words or is it an actual "thing"?


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Look in a ****ing dictionary.



*Yawn*

Dumbass!



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In alt.home.repair on Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:32:48 GMT "Joseph Meehan"
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I dont know if this is on topic or not because I am not sure what they
are? I heard the term used for those in store self serve photo
developing machines but have seen it used other ways too. What is it?
Is this just another of those buzz words or is it an actual "thing"?


kiĀ·osk (kĀ¶"Ā¼sk", kĀ¶-Ā¼sk") n. 1. A small open gazebo or pavilion. 2. A small
structure, often open on one or more sides, used as a newsstand or booth. 3.
A cylindrical structure on which advertisements are posted.


Ah, the dictionary! What an idea!

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It's something a business does to:

1) not hire another person but instead "invest" in electronics
2) basically the use of a shared computer in some prefabricated melamine
enclosure
A) allows you to
a) find gifts for those with a wedding registry
b) print duplicate photos from originals
c) purchase gift certificates of buy that stores goods on-line


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It's something a business does to:

1) not hire another person but instead "invest" in electronics
2) basically the use of a shared computer in some prefabricated melamine
enclosure
A) allows you to
a) find gifts for those with a wedding registry
b) print duplicate photos from originals
c) purchase gift certificates of buy that stores goods on-line


Thanks to all that replied (except those using vulgar words).
I also heard the ATM (and other) cash machines at banks and other
public places are called kiosks. Apparently this is a modern word
because my older dictionary does not contain it.

I'm going to have to qualify that as a free standing structure as well.

There is a bustling business selling Kiosks, and it involves my company as
well, so I *do* have some knowledge.


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Gee, if you'd DAGS on "kiosk dictionary" you'd have gotten 112K hits.
Looking through those would have kept you from stimulating vulgar words
(tsk, tsk) by laziness.

Then go to amazon and pull plastic for a modern dictionary if the above
is a problem.

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I dont know if this is on topic or not


NOT, Bozo. Your really are an invalid old fart.


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Look in a ****ing dictionary.

Dumbass!


You don't think that's the right thing to do?

Who's the dumbass here?

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In alt.home.repair on Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:31:44 -0500
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:00:20 -0400, "ng_reader"
wrote:

It's something a business does to:

1) not hire another person but instead "invest" in electronics
2) basically the use of a shared computer in some prefabricated melamine
enclosure
A) allows you to
a) find gifts for those with a wedding registry
b) print duplicate photos from originals
c) purchase gift certificates of buy that stores goods on-line


Thanks to all that replied (except those using vulgar words).
I also heard the ATM (and other) cash machines at banks and other
public places are called kiosks. Apparently this is a modern word
because my older dictionary does not contain it.


Things are not always as they appear. Merriam-Websters Ninth New
Collegiate dates the word in English to 1625. The use of kiosk to
refer to a small structure in a shopping mall only became common after
there were shopping malls.

The use of kiosk to mean a photographic machine or an ATM may catch
on, but for now it is a misunderstanding of what the word means.
Kiosk refers to the structure and not to what is, once was, or could
have been put in the structure.

There are some food recipes called filled or stuffed, in which only
the filling is served some or most of the time, and not what the
filling was meant to be stuffed into. Yet the original name of the
recipe is retained. "Stove-top stuffing" is probably one example, at
least when not stuffed into anything. Somehow, I think that is more
reasonable, because it is the particular recipe of the stuffing that
was considered worth notice.

In the case of an ATM kiosk, it is the entryway, inside the main door
but before the second set of doors that lead to a bank, that is the
kiosk**. Even that is probably metaphoric, because it's not really a
structure. It's the bank building with an extra set of inside doors
that can be locked to allow people access to the ATM's but not into
the bank, after closing hours. But if one can't find a separate room
or at least something to *call* a structure, it's an ATM, not a kiosk.

**ATMs mounted in the outside wall of a bank are not kiosks and are
not in kiosks.

Maybe there were some early appearance of photo machines that were in
kiosks, but I myself didn't see one. Until a substantial percentage of
the population uses kiosk to mean a free-standing photo machine or
ATM, it's just commercial-speak, argot, shop lingo, or a figure of
speech, and not within a standard English definition.

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In the case of an ATM kiosk, it is the entryway, inside the main door
but before the second set of doors that lead to a bank, that is the
kiosk**.


That would be called an airlock. Not a kiosk. I understand the term
as a structure of some sort also. In retail businesses, one would
expect to pay for their purchase in a "point of sale" system, such as
at best buy or Circuit City, at a payment kiosk. usually assisted by a
sales person of some kind, often called something entirely different
such as "associate" or "advisor". The word kiosk does in fact describe
the structure that is used to house the terminal used for that
transaction. Not the terminal, not the location in the store or
anything else. There is no ATM in it usually either. However, the
"advisor" or "associate" may , at some time during the transaction ask
if you would like "cash back" at which time you fall into a deep coma
and are rendered helpless and must be taken from the store in an
ambulance, due to trauma caused by the rather lengthy transaction that
was made "simple" by some over indulgent accountant who is sleeping
with a major decision maker high up in the corporate structure in the
publicly owned company that thinks that the idiots who are running the
company are making "sound decisions" based on years and years of
research and experience.

**ATMs mounted in the outside wall of a bank are not kiosks and are
not in kiosks.

ATM's mounted inside are not kiosks, unless they are free standing
structures such as one out in the middle of the walkway of the mall,
limiting the ability of even the wisest of pedestrians to form a line
to the right allowing smooth traffic flow. The fashion in which an ATM
is presented may be many different types. Kiosk is just one of them.


Maybe there were some early appearance of photo machines that were in
kiosks, but I myself didn't see one. Until a substantial percentage of
the population uses kiosk to mean a free-standing photo machine or
ATM, it's just commercial-speak, argot, shop lingo, or a figure of
speech, and not within a standard English definition.


As with much of the current culture of money makers, the word itself
is not important. It is more important to use it to carve your own
niche in common language using misspelled or partial words to label
your product, process or place. Common knowledge is becoming more
important to the current US culture than correctness. This is how
different countries are born isn't it?

( not trying to hammer on anyone, I just started where I last read ,
and felt the need to elaborate.) no offense Mr Meirman.


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