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GAS Dryer- no heat
I reviewed many previous messages and looked at the gas dryer repair
web page but still have questions. I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. i dont think it has a high temp cut off. the leads to the ignitor only showed 38v. i also had 120v to the gas valve. drum turns..but no heat. any ideas. thanks |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:12:19 -0400, bill wrote:
I reviewed many previous messages and looked at the gas dryer repair web page but still have questions. I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. i dont think it has a high temp cut off. the leads to the ignitor only showed 38v. i also had 120v to the gas valve. drum turns..but no heat. any ideas. thanks Is the gas turned on? -- If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 |
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Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:12:19 -0400, bill wrote: I reviewed many previous messages and looked at the gas dryer repair web page but still have questions. I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. i dont think it has a high temp cut off. the leads to the ignitor only showed 38v. i also had 120v to the gas valve. drum turns..but no heat. any ideas. thanks Gas dryers are most difficult to diagnose online. Especially without a model number! If igniter cycles on and off every 30 seconds or so, and no fire, check the split coil assembly on the gas valve, and make sure the gas is turned on. If one of the coils is weak or dead, it won't open the main burner valve and keep it open. You might not have to replace the entire valve - only the coils, depending on your particular model. The coils can't be checked reliably with an ohmmeter, because they develop shorted turns internally and become weak, from fatigue, so the best test is to just replace them. They are not terribly expensive. But, if the igniter never glows, check for a loose/burnt/broken connection in the wiring to the flame sensor and igniter. If it's a tubular shaped igniter, like on older Kenmore/Whirlpool models, make sure it is seated well in its holder. I haven't worked on appliances in pert near 15 years, so I've forgotten a few model specifics off the top of my head, but if you post back here with a model number, there are a couple of regular appliance repair guys in here who really know their stuff. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQucbgAIk7T39FC4ZEQLauACgg8tIRvyFSiELtCL273mBbY y9pngAoI78 mf3Hx/1IzCKAbP48tVywhw6S =Medc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -john wide-open at throttle dot info |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:28:34 -0700, ~^Johnny^~
wrote: I haven't worked on appliances in pert near 15 years OOPS! Typo... I meant 5 years, not 15... but it sure feels like 15 sometimes! (and forget the digital sig, too) -- -john wide-open at throttle dot info |
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bill wrote: I reviewed many previous messages and looked at the gas dryer repair web page but still have questions. I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. i dont think it has a high temp cut off. the leads to the ignitor only showed 38v. i also had 120v to the gas valve. drum turns..but no heat. any ideas. thanks Hi, Make, model#, approx age? I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. Still leaves....motor heat switch, timer, temp selector switch ( if used ), operating thermostat(s), safety thermostat(s). jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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Hash: SHA1 On 27 Jul 2005 04:31:08 -0700, "Appliance Repair Aid" wrote: Still leaves....motor heat switch, timer, temp selector switch ( if used ), operating thermostat(s), safety thermostat(s). unless his igniter is cycling (getting current) but he didn't say -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQue8cQIk7T39FC4ZEQLtIACdGn5uGqmoGXqo2jYDRuXQi0 Gps/gAoLr+ +n/JyhJB7TeDXLg8OHdASFaY =WDxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -john wide-open at throttle dot info |
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thanks, guys. sorry its a Kenmore model 11087870100 22000 btu/h i
got 120v to the gas valves. the ignitor does not glow however when i shorted across the sensor (flame) the ignitor glowed but the gas valve didnt open. should the gas valve open when the sensor "sees" the glow from the ignitor? or does the sensor switch need to open after it sees the glow ( to allow the gas to come on)?? at this point i'd think its the flame sensor.....what u think? thanks On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:55:19 -0700, ~^Johnny^~ wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Jul 2005 04:31:08 -0700, "Appliance Repair Aid" wrote: Still leaves....motor heat switch, timer, temp selector switch ( if used ), operating thermostat(s), safety thermostat(s). unless his igniter is cycling (getting current) but he didn't say -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQue8cQIk7T39FC4ZEQLtIACdGn5uGqmoGXqo2jYDRuXQi0 Gps/gAoLr+ +n/JyhJB7TeDXLg8OHdASFaY =WDxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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I worked on a Kenmore with similar symptoms. Needed new coils for the
solenoid on the gas valve. No natural gas work needed, all electric. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "bill" wrote in message ... I reviewed many previous messages and looked at the gas dryer repair web page but still have questions. I checked the ignitor, 2 soldnoids, flame sensor and the thermal fuse (on back panel) =--all had continuity. i dont think it has a high temp cut off. the leads to the ignitor only showed 38v. i also had 120v to the gas valve. drum turns..but no heat. any ideas. thanks |
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bill wrote: thanks, guys. sorry its a Kenmore model 11087870100 22000 btu/h i got 120v to the gas valves. the ignitor does not glow however when i shorted across the sensor (flame) the ignitor glowed but the gas valve didnt open. should the gas valve open when the sensor "sees" the glow from the ignitor? or does the sensor switch need to open after it sees the glow ( to allow the gas to come on)?? at this point i'd think its the flame sensor.....what u think? thanks Hi, Flame sensor sounds bad!! when i shorted across the sensor (flame) the ignitor glowed but the gas valve didnt open. It shouldn't have, the sensor must be closed and opens up at a specific time. http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=2681 Gas dryer sensor for igniter and flame. jeff Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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Its solved. I replaced (for testing purposes) the sensor switch with
a switch i could operate by a turn knob. after the ignitor glowed, i turned the switch and gas flowed. i will replace the radiant sensor tomorrow. thanks for all the insights and discussion. it was fun. bill On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:42:06 GMT, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I worked on a Kenmore with similar symptoms. Needed new coils for the solenoid on the gas valve. No natural gas work needed, all electric. |
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In alt.home.repair on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:32:48 -0400 bill
posted: thanks, guys. sorry its a Kenmore model 11087870100 22000 btu/h i got 120v to the gas valves. I see it's fixed now, but for something next time, you shouldn't stop with the voltage. Unplug it and check the resistance across the gas valves. It shouldn't be zero ohms on the lowest scale and they shouldn't be infinity. (shorted and open). I'm sure that even if it is inbetween the electric part of the valve could be bad, and certainly the mechanical part, but that would be rare. Most failures of most simple electrical things are opens or shorts. P&M the ignitor does not glow however when i shorted across the sensor (flame) the ignitor glowed but the gas valve didnt open. should the gas valve open when the sensor "sees" the glow from the ignitor? or does the sensor switch need to open after it sees the glow ( to allow the gas to come on)?? at this point i'd think its the flame sensor.....what u think? thanks On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:55:19 -0700, ~^Johnny^~ wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Jul 2005 04:31:08 -0700, "Appliance Repair Aid" wrote: Still leaves....motor heat switch, timer, temp selector switch ( if used ), operating thermostat(s), safety thermostat(s). unless his igniter is cycling (getting current) but he didn't say -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQue8cQIk7T39FC4ZEQLtIACdGn5uGqmoGXqo2jYDRuXQi0 Gps/gAoLr+ +n/JyhJB7TeDXLg8OHdASFaY =WDxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Meirman -- If emailing, please let me know whether or not you are posting the same letter. Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. |
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