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Telephone wiring question
I thought that when hooking up a phone, the important wires are the red
and the green. I thought that the red wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the red wire in the wall jack, and the green wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the green in the wall jack. Today I examined the wires inside the jack box, and I see that a tan/white wire from the phone line is coupled with the red in the wall jack box, and a blue wire from the line was coupled with the green wire in the box. I tried to re-do the pairings by matching the red from the line with the red in the box and a green from the line with the green in the box, but when I did that, I didn't get a dial tone. What's going on? |
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Back in the old days, telephone wire was four conductor: R-G-Y-B and yes
you connected to the red and green. Now most telephone wiring is done with Cat 5 or other multiwire cables and the same color scheme does not apply. You need to reconnect the jack to the two wires that were on it originally. "chemqueries" wrote in message ups.com... I thought that when hooking up a phone, the important wires are the red and the green. I thought that the red wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the red wire in the wall jack, and the green wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the green in the wall jack. Today I examined the wires inside the jack box, and I see that a tan/white wire from the phone line is coupled with the red in the wall jack box, and a blue wire from the line was coupled with the green wire in the box. I tried to re-do the pairings by matching the red from the line with the red in the box and a green from the line with the green in the box, but when I did that, I didn't get a dial tone. What's going on? |
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chemqueries wrote:
I thought that when hooking up a phone, the important wires are the red and the green. I thought that the red wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the red wire in the wall jack, and the green wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the green in the wall jack. Today I examined the wires inside the jack box, and I see that a tan/white wire from the phone line is coupled with the red in the wall jack box, and a blue wire from the line was coupled with the green wire in the box. I tried to re-do the pairings by matching the red from the line with the red in the box and a green from the line with the green in the box, but when I did that, I didn't get a dial tone. What's going on? It looks like someone had a 2nd phone line, and it was converted at some point back into a single line in the house. The 2nd line was run on the 2nd pair. -- Respectfully, CL Gilbert |
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In alt.home.repair on 25 Jul 2005 01:59:54 -0700 "chemqueries"
posted: I thought that when hooking up a phone, the important wires are the red and the green. I thought that the red wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the red wire in the wall jack, and the green wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the green in the wall jack. Today I examined the wires inside the jack box, and I see that a tan/white wire from the phone line is coupled with the red in the wall jack box, and a blue wire from the line was coupled with the green wire in the box. I tried to re-do the pairings by matching the red from the line with the red in the box and a green from the line with the green in the box, but when I did that, I didn't get a dial tone. What's going on? It's good that you know what the original pair was. BTW, with dial phones and no party line, the red and green wires of the phone were interchangeable. With touch tone, you'll get a dial tone if they are backwards, but you can't dial. Meirman -- If emailing, please let me know whether or not you are posting the same letter. Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. |
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meirman posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. BTW, with dial phones and no party line, the red and green wires of the phone were interchangeable. With touch tone, you'll get a dial tone if they are backwards, but you can't dial. Meirman BWAAAAA nooooooooooooooooooooo -- Tekkie |
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Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:31:37 -0400, meirman wrote: In alt.home.repair on 25 Jul 2005 01:59:54 -0700 "chemqueries" posted: I thought that when hooking up a phone, the important wires are the red and the green. I thought that the red wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the red wire in the wall jack, and the green wire from the phone line is supposed to be coupled with the green in the wall jack. Today I examined the wires inside the jack box, and I see that a tan/white wire from the phone line is coupled with the red in the wall jack box, and a blue wire from the line was coupled with the green wire in the box. I tried to re-do the pairings by matching the red from the line with the red in the box and a green from the line with the green in the box, but when I did that, I didn't get a dial tone. What's going on? It's good that you know what the original pair was. BTW, with dial phones and no party line, the red and green wires of the phone were interchangeable. With touch tone, you'll get a dial tone if they are backwards, but you can't dial. Newer electronic phones have built in bridge rectifiers, making them polarity insensitive, but older phones did have this "feature". They were designde that way. As for the color code, red/green/yellow/black are the old colors. Modern colors are blue/white-blue/orange/white-orange so you would connect red to blue, and green to white-blue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQuWmrgIk7T39FC4ZEQLV8wCfTe3DZ6PT2TjnghLiSgnlyw CHoOsAn1PQ gkNI6wD7PRbyFSmYp9fXRUFy =duC7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -john wide-open at throttle dot info |
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Tekkie® wrote:
meirman posted for all of us... I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. BTW, with dial phones and no party line, the red and green wires of the phone were interchangeable. With touch tone, you'll get a dial tone if they are backwards, but you can't dial. Meirman BWAAAAA nooooooooooooooooooooo That was only true with the old five hundred telephone sets. More modern instruments do not have polarity sensitive key pads. -- Tom Horne Well we aren't no thin blue heroes and yet we aren't no blackguards to. We're just working men and woman most remarkable like you. |
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~^Johnny^~ wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:31:37 -0400, meirman wrote: It's good that you know what the original pair was. Well, I admit that I had to write it down so I wouldn't forget! As for the color code, red/green/yellow/black are the old colors. Modern colors are blue/white-blue/orange/white-orange so you would connect red to blue, and green to white-blue -john Hello john. You said that red would be connected to blue and green to white-blue, but on my phone white/tan was connected to red, and blue was connected to green, and it's working. |
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In alt.home.repair on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:06:54 GMT HorneTD
posted: Tekkie® wrote: meirman posted for all of us... I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. BTW, with dial phones and no party line, the red and green wires of the phone were interchangeable. With touch tone, you'll get a dial tone if they are backwards, but you can't dial. Meirman BWAAAAA nooooooooooooooooooooo That was only true with the old five hundred telephone sets. More modern instruments do not have polarity sensitive key pads. Did not know that. Thanks to you and Johnny. (It will probably be another decade before I get to "modern instruments". Meirman -- If emailing, please let me know whether or not you are posting the same letter. Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1 On 26 Jul 2005 18:53:17 -0700, "chemqueries" wrote: ~^Johnny^~ wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:31:37 -0400, meirman wrote: It's good that you know what the original pair was. Well, I admit that I had to write it down so I wouldn't forget! As for the color code, red/green/yellow/black are the old colors. Modern colors are blue/white-blue/orange/white-orange so you would connect red to blue, and green to white-blue -john Hello john. You said that red would be connected to blue and green to white-blue, but on my phone white/tan was connected to red, and blue was connected to green, and it's working. No telling who wired the phone the last time before you! :-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBQucORAIk7T39FC4ZEQLx6gCgqps4QIxGYFty+BJZwEWMfq 3Px/kAoNX+ 6NYgoLDbTUw9hseN4/EXaQ0J =meKb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -john wide-open at throttle dot info |
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